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CLEOPATRA WAS A BLONDE - (terrific brief history of Egypt's rich past; optimistic democratic future)
TO THE POINT.COM ^ | MARCH 24, 2005 | DR. JACK WHEELER

Posted on 03/26/2005 1:14:24 PM PST by CHARLITE

No, this is not a blonde joke. If you want one of those, go to this week’s Humor File. Cleopatra was in fact a blonde. That’s because she was not Egyptian. She was a Macedonian Greek, with hair as blonde as Alexander’s.

Alexander conquered Egypt in 332 BC, then went on to subdue all of the Middle East. When he died nine years later, his just-conquered empire was fought over and carved up by his generals. The one who ended up running Egypt was Ptolemy (367-283 BC). Declaring himself Pharaoh, he founded the Ptolemaic Dynasty, with twelve Ptolemies in succession, many of whom had wives named Cleopatra. The Cleopatra we know, lover of Julius Caesar and Marc Antony, was the daughter of Ptolemy XII, and entitled Cleopatra VII (69-30 BC).

There was not a drop of Egyptian blood in the Ptolemies. They remained 100% Greek, including the Queen of the Nile herself Cleopatra. Can you imagine Elizabeth Taylor as a blonde? It kind of shakes up your image of history.

I am writing this overlooking the Nile in Cairo. The Pyramids of Giza are in the distance. If there is one thing omnipresent in Egypt it’s history – and most all of that history is old, in more ways than one.

Egyptian history ended over 3,000 years ago. The Pyramids, the Pharoahs like Ramses II and King Tut, all of that was pretty much over by 1,000 BC. When the Persians seized the place in 525 BC, it had been torn apart by Libyans, Kushite Nubians, Assyrians and other invaders for centuries. Thus the very name “Egypt” isn’t Egyptian. The Persians called it E Ko Ptah, the Land of Ptah, the Egyptian creator god. Herodotus Greekified this to Egoptus, which we changed to Egypt.

The Sphinx isn’t the Sphinx – that’s a Greek word the Ptolemies gave it, meaning “bound together” as the statue of a Pharoah’s head with the body of a lion. The real name is shesep-ankh-Atum, the Living Image of the God Atum.

The Ptolemies’ Greek rule of Egypt ended in 31 BC, with Octavian’s (who became Augustus) defeat of Antony and Cleopatra at Actium. For almost 700 years, Egypt was a Roman colony (first of Rome, then Constantinople). Then came the Arabs, followed by the Turkish Mamluks, followed by the Ottoman Turks. When Napoleon grabbed it in 1798, Egypt was an unknown backwater (I must dispense one myth here: The Sphinx’s nose was not blown off by Napoleon’s artillery, as there are pre-1798 drawings of it so disfigured. It was defaced by Arab Moslems in the 8th century). Three years later, the Brits kicked out the French, and Egypt remained a British colony until independence came in 1952.

Well, sort of. Under the dictatorship of Gamel Abdel Nasser, Egypt became a virtual colony of the Soviet Union’s. After Nasser died in 1970, it had a brief respite under Anwar Sadat, who kicked out the Soviets. Sadat was assassinated in 1981, and a fellow named Hosni Mubarak has been Egypt’s Pharaoh ever since.

It’s hard to go anywhere in Egypt today without seeing Mubarak’s picture staring down at you from huge billboards and street posters everywhere. For twenty-five years, there have been no elections, only “referendums,” where people get to vote either “yes” or “no” on his rule with no other options or candidates. He routinely gets over 98% yes. Any public criticism of him gets you in prison.

Mubarak will be 77 this May. Bush White House people who have talked with him recently comment on how he is always repeating himself and is showing signs of senility. Yet he still is shrewd enough to understand he cannot appoint his son Gemayel as his successor, and to announce (last month) with fanfare that there will be something like an actual election this fall, instead of another referendum.

If this takes place, with opposition parties allowed to organize, opposition candidates allowed to campaign, people allowed to freely vote with international monitors watching, it will be the first time in 5,000 years of recorded Egyptian history that Egyptians have had a voice in choosing their government. Far more importantly, it will have a thunderous effect throughout the entire Arab world.

Egypt is the Arab giant. There are 72 million people here, almost three times the population of Iraq. For 3,000 years it has been a sleeping giant. In the half-century since independence, its political freedom has been stifled and its economy shackled by socialism. With the most cursory glimpse of the country, one can see the enormous potential here. Egyptians are smart, friendly, hospitable to the world, and ready to go.

The famous monuments tourists have flocked here to see for centuries have a very interesting psychological impact on Egyptians. Civilization began in Mesopotamia, but there wasn’t any stone. Everything was made of mud brick and it all crumbled away. So the memory and reality of a pre-Islamic history faded away. So it is throughout the Arab world. All that came before Islam can be ignored. Except in Egypt, where there was stone, where gigantic monuments made of stone still exist and their pre-Islamic history cannot be ignored. For many Arabs, all they are, besides a tribal or clan membership, is Moslem. Egyptians know they are far and deeply more.

There is thus an entrenched capacity in Egypt for a moderate Islam that participates in the world and doesn’t reject it. Egyptian Islamofascists like Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama Bin Laden’s Number Two in Al Qaeda, aren’t welcome and have to go elsewhere. Radical anti-West movements like Iqwan Muslimi, the Moslem Brotherhood that started here, have to ally elsewhere, like with the Wahabbis of Saudi Arabia.

The Iqwan is here in Egypt, no doubt. It was formed here in 1928. It conducted the assassination of Anwar Sadat. Right now it is quiescent. And so we come to Egypt’s great fork in today’s road. The fear of the Iqwan is now suddenly serving a useful purpose. The January 30 elections in Iraq stunned Egypt. Millions of Egyptians watched their fellow Arabs freely, peacefully, and enthusiastically vote for their government. Now they want the same for their country.

And Mubarak realizes that if he doesn’t give it to them and dashes their hopes, then lots of folks will see the Iqwan as their only alternative. American, European, and world pressure will be on Mubarak to not hold pretend sham elections. He’s got to launch Egypt on the road to actual democracy.

That, plus an unshackling of the Egyptian economy with solid free market reforms – which has already started – will be a blow from which Arab Moslem terrorism and radicalism may not be able to recover. A free democratic Egypt is the doom of radical Islam.

It’s a memorable time to be here, watching Egypt awaken from a slumber of three millennia. This ancient land may be about to play a critical role in our future.


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To: CHARLITE
"Egyptian history ended over 3,000 years ago."

It's little gems like this that get my ire up. If it is true, then Egypt does not exist and we can just delete the rest of the article. At the best, it's sloppy writing which should be beneath any PhD.

On the subject of the Greeks being blond, The classical Greeks are generally said to have been light haired and the current coloring is likely due to having been over run repeatedly by Turks and other dark haired people. Dark hair is, I think, a dominant trait.

N.B. The woman we think of as "Cleopatra" was the 13th of that name.

21 posted on 03/26/2005 1:54:58 PM PST by AntiBurr ("A generation that ignores history has no past--and no future." --Heinlein)
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To: GSlob
The people who inhabit Egypt, Greece and Rome today are not the same people who built those early civilizations. Take a look at any of the early frescos from the early Roman period in both Greece and Egypt (as well as Rome).

The simple fact is that thriving cultures attact multitudes of immigrants willing to perform low-level service functions. Over time, the base reaches a tipping point and the wealth producers move on to a new region, keeping one step ahead of the masses until the cycle repeats itself again.

22 posted on 03/26/2005 1:55:18 PM PST by lemura
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To: CHARLITE
"it will be the first time in 5,000 years of recorded Egyptian history that Egyptians have had a voice in choosing their government"

Other than the minority coptic community ,most people in Egypt are not Egyptians but are arab colonizers or a mixture of arabian/egyptian.
23 posted on 03/26/2005 1:55:52 PM PST by avile
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To: AntiBurr

Sorry for the double post, I simply double clicked when a single was correct..


24 posted on 03/26/2005 1:57:07 PM PST by AntiBurr ("A generation that ignores history has no past--and no future." --Heinlein)
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To: CHARLITE

Bull! I saw the movie.....and Cleopatra was no Harlow.


25 posted on 03/26/2005 1:59:47 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: tiamat

The blonde waitresses take their trays
They spin around and they cross the floor
They've got the moves (oh way oh)
You drop your drink then they bring you more. . .


26 posted on 03/26/2005 2:02:22 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Alter Kaker
...some coins suggest she was large and dumpy.

Power is an aphrodesiac!

27 posted on 03/26/2005 2:04:23 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Fedora

One of my favorites. Have it on my hard drive

OOOOh!

I get it!

Cleopatra was reincarnated as a waitress!


28 posted on 03/26/2005 2:04:41 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

The large barbarians from the north (Germania) invaded the Shore People who hailed from Asia Minor--twice (once as "Dorians"). Things got mixed up.


29 posted on 03/26/2005 2:07:18 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: tiamat

LOL! I guess that was a drop in salary for her :-)


30 posted on 03/26/2005 2:07:37 PM PST by Fedora
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To: CzarNicky
I thought she was black. That's what the multiculturalists told me.

Gosh! And there she was flying around amongst the pyramids, blond hair trailing behind?

No, wait........

31 posted on 03/26/2005 2:15:28 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: avile
Other than the minority coptic community ,most people in Egypt are not Egyptians but are arab colonizers or a mixture of arabian/egyptian.

*chuckle* Well, other than the minority American Indian community, most people in the United States are not Americans but are European colonizers or a mixture of African/European.

32 posted on 03/26/2005 2:15:54 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: CHARLITE

cant be true. Time magazine, a few years ago, claimed she was an African princess, and you know Time Magazine has no agendas


33 posted on 03/26/2005 2:17:30 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Mayor of Jesusland)
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To: bannie

I wrote my post poorly! It was the Invaders from Europe who invaded twice--not the Shore People.

F-

:(


34 posted on 03/26/2005 2:17:32 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: lemura
The simple fact is that thriving cultures attact multitudes of immigrants willing to perform low-level service functions. Over time, the base reaches a tipping point and the wealth producers move on to a new region, keeping one step ahead of the masses until the cycle repeats itself again.

Economic immigration is a phenomenon very rare in premodern times. What really happens is that thriving cultures attract migrating peoples, who invade, kill most of the "wealth producers", and settle in the area.

35 posted on 03/26/2005 2:18:28 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
"Well, no, it wasn't a Roman colony, because the Romans never sent anyone to settle there and populate the place"

What about Antinoopolis founded by Hadrian? There may have been other Roman colonies in Egypt.

36 posted on 03/26/2005 2:19:12 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: SedVictaCatoni

no , since there was no America until Europeans colonized it, and named it for Amerigo Vespucci. there was no england until angles displaced celtic Britons.


37 posted on 03/26/2005 2:20:16 PM PST by avile
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To: Eternal_Bear
What about Antinoopolis founded by Hadrian? There may have been other Roman colonies in Egypt.

The city was founded by Hadrian, but it wasn't populated by Romans who were sent to live there. That is essentially the definition of a "colony" in classical times. It was probably settled by Greek traders from elsewhere in Egypt.

38 posted on 03/26/2005 2:22:39 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: avile

Celts, Jutes and Picts!


39 posted on 03/26/2005 2:26:30 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: anniegetyourgun; CHARLITE
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer believes Mesopotamia, Egypt and etc. was civilized by the refugees from the Ice Age melt that submerged Sundaland. Below is a review of his book Eden In The East:

"Editorial Reviews

From Kirkus Reviews
In an exhaustively researched and creatively argued reassessment of mankind's origins, British physician Oppenheimer, an expert in tropical pediatrics, contends that the now-submerged area of Southeast Asia was the cradle of ancient civilization.
From time to time, scholars from various disciplines have argued for the existence of a vastly old ``founder civilization.'' Among the most famous was Charles Hapgood, who based his theory of a lost seafaring civilization on his analysis of the famous 16th-century ``Piri Re'is'' maps of the Antarctic land mass.
In this tradition, Oppenheimer blends evidence from geology, genetics, linguistics, archaeology, and anthropology to argue persuasively that such a civilization existed on a submerged land mass in Southeast Asia, which geologists call the Sunda shelf. Pointing to geological evidence for the submersion of the shelf by abrupt rises in the sea level about 8,000 years ago, Oppenheimer contends that the coastal cultures of Southeast Asia were drowned by a great flood, reflected in flood mythologies scattered from the ancient Middle East (such as the biblical story of Noah) to Australia and the Americas.

According to the author, tantalizing archaeological evidence exists of settlements under a ``silt curtain'' left by the sea floods in drowned coastal regions from Southeast Asia to the Middle East, while linguistic markers indicate that languages spread from Southeast Asia to Australia and the Pacific.
The shared flood story is one striking example of similar Eurasian myths according to the author; the ancient Middle East and Asia share other myth typologies, conspicuously including creation and Cain and Abel myths, which point to common origins in a progenitor culture.

Absorbing, meticulously researched, limpidly written, and authoritative: should be regarded as a groundbreaking study of the remote past of Southeast Asia, and of civilization itself. -- Copyright ©1999, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title."

Product Description:

A book that completetly changes the established and conventional view of prehistory by relocating the Lost Eden - the world's 1st civilisation - to SouthEast Asia.

At the end of the Ice Age, SouthEast Asia formed a continent twice the size of India, which included Indochina, Malaysia, Indonesia and Borneo.
The South China Sea, the Gulf of Thailand and the Java sea, which were all dry, formed the connecting parts of the continent. Geologically, this half sunken continent is the Shunda shelf or Sundaland.

In the Eden in the East Stephen Oppenheimer puts forward the astonishing argument that here in southeast Asia - rather than in Mesopotamia where it is usually placed - was the lost civilisation that fertilised the Great cultures of the Middle East 6 thousand years ago.
He produces evidence from ethnography, archaeology, oceanography, from creation stories, myths and sagas and from linguistics and DNA analysis, to argue that this founder civilisation was destroyed by a catastrophic flood, caused by a rapid rise in the sea level at the end of the last ice age."

40 posted on 03/26/2005 2:26:39 PM PST by blam
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