Picture of the children arresting for trying to bring Terry [Schiavo] water (God Bless Them!)

US News ^ | 3/23/05

[areafiftyone]

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, standing upper right, prepares to arrest members of the Keys family as they were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo water Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The Keys family, of Burnet, Tex., kneeling, from left, Josie, 14, Gabriel, 10, Chris, the children's father, and Cameron 12, were all taken into custody. Galen Keys, upper left, the children's mother looks on, but was not arrested.The mother insists it was the children's idea: "I am proud of them," said the boys' mother Geilen Keys from Texas, who was not arrested. "They are very mature and they said 'we want to go and offer some water to Terri'."

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, second from left, handcuffs 14-year-old Josie Keys, left, while Pinellas County Sheriff's deputies place her father Chris in the back of a van after arresting members of the family for trespassing Wednesday morning March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The family members were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo a cup of water.

Gabriel Keys (foreground) is arrested by police officers for trespassing in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 23, 2005. The young protester attempted to take a glass of water into the Woodside Hospice for the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo. A federal judge rejected a request from the parents of Schiavo to order her feeding tube reinserted, dealing a blow to attempts by the U.S. Congress and the White House to prolong her life.

[verity]

Your sane observation is quite refreshing.

[Grampa Dave]

"These officers remind me of those at Klamath sent there by their government to deny 1500 farming families of their water. They didn't want to be there. When talked to about what they were actually helping accomplish, most would move off and not talk to you anymore."

I have had the same recall as you did re the Klamath affair and the Elain affair re the officers standing on the wrong side of justice.

[pgkdan]

No problem... but you missed the point. The court of law that presides over this case granted the husband permission to remove her feeding tube after that action was contested by the parents. So, it is a legal activity occuring on private property.

You'd make a very proper Nazi...just following legal orders and all that. It doesn't matter who gets killed, as long as a judge or other authority figure defines it as a 'legal' activity. I feel sorry for you.

[strookie]

A friend of mine who's a public school teacher in Dixie County Florida told me spring break is in April. You would assume other counties, like Pinellas, would do the same. So I also believe these children are homeschooled. (And the conservative dress does help that argument, too.)

[Chad Fairbanks]

These kinds of folks are best ignored. I have run into them before. This is not the first time they've quite eagerly slandered Christians.

Really? Since his post was about me, then I must be "these kinds of folks" who have "quite eagerly slandered Christians", so post proof, or retract.

[Chad Fairbanks]

I say that original poster is wrong, regardless of the 'holy season' and CF is no better. Two wrongs . . . .

Hey, I never claimed to be perfect, but if you can't see that I was merely pointing out the absurdity of what is being done over and over and over again on these threads, then you just need to move on and get over it. Anyone who was thinking clearly, and not looking for a fight just for a fight's sake, would easily be able to look at that, and say to him or herself "Yeah, he said exactly what some of these people are claiming to believe... I''m glad he pointed that out, because it's weird, nutty, and makes us all look like a bunch of kooks."

Maybe I could have handled it differently, but again, I'm not perfect, so sue me.

[Tabi Katz]

A monster is murdering his helpless wife, and the children trying to save her are arrested? What is this world coming to?

[ariamne]

Yes, there are always a few bad apples in LE, but I get queasy when I hear people trash the police and LE quite as harshly as you did. The left consistently trashes the police, they are ALWAYS wrong in every case where they had to shoot someone, and they were always calling the police "the pigs", and disparaging them. I guess it shocks me coming from the right, though I understand and share your disgust at the pictures of children being cuffed. The policemen don't look very happy at doing it; I like to think if it were me, I would throw down my badge and quit; but we all don't have the same ethics barrier. Maybe they were afraid they couldn't support their families if they quit, or something.

[areafiftyone]

I don't know. I really am so sick about this. I saw a picture of that judge on Fox and Friends this morning (Judge Greer) and I know in my heart that he will not let the State take over Terri. I just know it. I don't see any kindness in his eyes.

[Tabi Katz]

Now I hear the parents are appealing to the Supreme Court. I hope they show some sense for a change and come down on the side of life, but I'm not optimistic.

[VMI70]

Thank you. I appreciate that, especially coming from you.

You and I have been around FR for quite awhile, and I cannot remember an event that has elicited such emotion and animosity within the ranks. Can you? I have purposely not participated in this debate as most argument is coming from the heart which inherently gives rise to distortion, some of it gross. It is counter-productive to try and have a thoughtful and reasonable exchange when things are so heated, so I have opted to observe and keep my own counsel.

Also, I was really disturbed with Rush's broadcasts this week. I was not so much surprised with his "sanctity of life" stance which is well known and with which I philosophically agree, but his quoting as authorities, some of the more nebulous actors in this drama, to me was weak, unconvincing, and off putting, almost like he was grasping at straws. It has not been his better work, in my humble opinion.

I'm going on too long. Thanks again for your kind reply.

[atlaw]

It sounds to me like you feel challenged....

A little too cryptic there. Its usually best to just say what you actually mean.

Am I supposed to feel "challenged" to use my own children for a publicity stunt? Or maybe "challenged" to blindly approve of using children as chattel for a pet political cause? Clarification please.

[areafiftyone]

Me neither. I don't think the Supreme Court will take up the case. They refused twice already.

[Blzbba]

"Now come back to me and try to defend your idiotic slap at homeschoolers. If you A) can't take the heat, and/or B) don't know what you're talking about, then go to another Forum......but don't pretend to take on the big dogs, boy."


I've nothing aganist homeschoolers. I've everything against pious, self-righteous people like yourself, 'big dog'. Bring something to the table besides your pathetic challenge in the thread and then remember that the main thing is that (I think) we both want Terri to live.

[Tabi Katz]

This whole thing is making me ill. A woman is being put to death for the crime of being disabled, and the law is coming down on the side of the murdering "husband." It's just sick.

[areafiftyone]

I was reading the post about Greer. That Judge he denied an injunction for a wife seeking protection from her husband. He note d that the woman had not liste d any acts of violence by the man.

Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.

This Judge should not be on the bench!

[Blzbba]

"Hell, I'll just say it. You are full of $#!+."


Well, that was intelligent.

[Chad Fairbanks]

I was reading the post about Greer. That Judge he denied an injunction for a wife seeking protection from her husband. He note d that the woman had not liste d any acts of violence by the man. Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.

I'm not going to defend Greers' actions in the Shiavo case, but it's possible that at the time this protection order wasn't given because the law required previous acts of violence or something, and his hands were tied by the law. Had he done it, regardless of what the law said, people would have complained about "activist judges legislating from the bench" etc...

That may not be the case however, but it could be a logical explanation for why he denied the request for a protection order... Are there any other details on that case?

[Blzbba]

"You are the one making accusations of thousands of dead innocent Iraqis, not me. That's straight out of DU or MoveOn.org. "


Accusations? Wow - you're really in denial about the realities of war. Noone (except you) denies this reality.


"Ask the feds for help when the state refuses to act to safe a life is proper compared to the alternatives. "


Spoken like a true liberal. It must be nice to toss one's principles aside when one finds them inconvenient.


"Why do you want this woman dead so badly? "

I don't - I've stated numerous times that I don't understand why she can't be released to her parents and why her polygamous husband still has any custody of her.

Try to keep up, please.

[Sun Soldier]

"You'd make a very proper Nazi...just following legal orders and all that."

Oh yes, good Nazi and all that. I'm sure your deck is full of Nazi cards you can whip out when someone disagrees with your views. Whatever... sticks and stones... Of course the Nazis poisoned and cooked people several hundred at a time. I don't think this is quite the same (and please withhold your "slippery slope" retort). Another difference is the protracted court battle where Terri's parents exercised their right to make their case in court. I support that right and had they won I'd support the decision of the court. A good Nazi would have never let it get to court. Nazi's would've clubbed the parents and Terri, probably the husband too for good measure.

"I feel sorry for you."

Don't. The pain inflicted by your insult was shortlived.