Picture of the children arresting for trying to bring Terry [Schiavo] water (God Bless Them!)

US News ^ | 3/23/05

[areafiftyone]

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, standing upper right, prepares to arrest members of the Keys family as they were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo water Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The Keys family, of Burnet, Tex., kneeling, from left, Josie, 14, Gabriel, 10, Chris, the children's father, and Cameron 12, were all taken into custody. Galen Keys, upper left, the children's mother looks on, but was not arrested.The mother insists it was the children's idea: "I am proud of them," said the boys' mother Geilen Keys from Texas, who was not arrested. "They are very mature and they said 'we want to go and offer some water to Terri'."

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, second from left, handcuffs 14-year-old Josie Keys, left, while Pinellas County Sheriff's deputies place her father Chris in the back of a van after arresting members of the family for trespassing Wednesday morning March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The family members were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo a cup of water.

Gabriel Keys (foreground) is arrested by police officers for trespassing in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 23, 2005. The young protester attempted to take a glass of water into the Woodside Hospice for the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo. A federal judge rejected a request from the parents of Schiavo to order her feeding tube reinserted, dealing a blow to attempts by the U.S. Congress and the White House to prolong her life.

[kcvl]

I bet there isn't one out there

There was a lesbian agnostic who is handicapped sitting out in front of the hospice according to Rush today. She said that she would rather have Christian conservatives take care of her than the ACLU and that hospice.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

No. Over-the-top was when someone posted a picture of Terri crucified on the cross, with the message "America, why hast thou foresaken me?"...

But maybe I have differing standards...

That was in the top two or three sickest things I've ever seen here, I gotta say...probably number one. (You forgot to mention that the little "INRI" sign at the top of the cross said "TERRI".)

[Chad Fairbanks]

I've been trying to forget that I saw that...

[Spiff]

Do you know for a fact that she is suffering?

Do you know for a fact that she is not? We err on the side of life.

[Jotmo]

Wow. Someone actually did that?

[anymouse]

I think pretty much everyone here are "the good guys", really, just some are more filled with hysteria than others...

I think you misspelled humanity. :)

Then again maybe you meant humility. ;)

Either way when the chips are down, I would want these kind of people on my side rather than those so heartless about such a serious issue.

[eeriegeno]

More than anything else, the Terri Schindler story is the death of the mainstream (broadcast) media; they've failed completely in covering the landmark event of the year

I would think that this is a landmark event in the history of our country....

Investigative journalism is DEAD. The concept of a President running the country is DEAD. The concept of a Governor running his state is DEAD. The concept of '...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...' is DEAD. After the robed SOB's and a greedy 'estranged husband' succeed in murdering Terri, I would bet a dollar to a donut that the county coroner will not order an autopsy to determine if any foul play had occurred in this poor lady's life.....

And her death certificate will probably list cause of death as PVS rather than 'starved to death by the courts'........

[La Enchiladita]

Just wondering ... if, somewhere along the line, someone's been able to slip something (during the handcuffing process) to the coppers to give to Terri ... just wondering.

This is an awful spectacle, which most Americans care nothing about ... unless it was happening to them or someone they love.

Instead of blaming the Dems or the Repubs or the judges or even the "husband" or the family, I blame myself for not being attentive to this case much sooner. One week of caring doesn't matter much for Terri.

It is wrong to deliberately cause her to die this way. Without Michael being so persistent, she could still be receiving nutrition and hydration and God would take her last breath in His time...

[Badray]

All the comparisons of Terri to Jesus is getting to be too much... But if that is how people want it, then I don't know what the big deal is - if she dies on friday, she'll be back sunday anyway, right?

You are truly despicable.

[Libertina]

I can't help myself from sobbing. This is too anguishing.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Consider this All Police Officers arresting these protestors who will undoubtedly claim "I was only following orders."


"I was only following orders" did no good, for Herman Goerring who in the 1945 Nuremeurg Trials said:

I joined the Party precisely because it was revolutionary, not because of the ideological stuff." (12/11/45)...."The whole conspiracy idea is *censored*eyed. We had orders to obey the head of state. We weren't a band of criminals meeting in the woods in the dead of night to plan mass murders...The four real conspirators are missing: The Fuhrer, Himmler, Bormann, and Goebbels." (1/5/46)..."This is a political trial by the victors and it will be a good thing when Germany realizes that..." (6/13/46)

Goering committed suicide on the day before his scheduled hanging by taking a cyanide pill that was smuggled into his cell. Goering wrote in his suicide note, "I would have no objection to getting shot," but he thought hanging was inappropriate for a man of his position.

Nor did it do any good for fellow Nuremberg trialee Alfred Jodl who, pleading for his life said:

"The indictment knocked me on the head. First of all, I hand no idea at all about 90 per cent of the accusations in it. The crimes are horrible beyond belief, if they are true. Secondly, I don't see how they can fail to recognize a soldier's obligation to obey orders. That's the code I've live by all my life." (11/1/45)

Jodl was hanged in Nuremberg on Oct. 16, 1946.

To use the excuse of "I merely obeyed orders" is just that. An excuse.

My father, while I was growing up, used to tell me a story that happened to him, when explaining to me the act of accepting responsibility for ones actions.

While serving on the flight deck of the USS Forrestal as a Aviation ordanaceman, he recalled the actions of some fellow crewmen.

One of the duties is for a crew member to check each weapon for electrical and static discharge of the munitions underneath the plane with a hand held device (the name of the device escapes me now).

The Crew Chief, supposedly, told the individual to "Just fake it".

He complied. And a AIM-9 missile launched off its rack carriage and thru said Crew Chief.

The crewmember who "faked" the inspection was left trying to explain "I was only following orders!"

It failed him as well.

Nor did the excuse of "I was only following orders" assist First Lieutenant William Calley for his part in the My Lai Massacre on March 16, 1968

Lt Calley during his trial offered the following:

"Well, I was ordered to go in there and destroy the enemy. That was my job on that day. That was the mission I was given. I did not sit down and think in terms of men, women, and children. They were all classified the same, and that was the classification that we dealt with, just as enemy soldiers. ........I felt then and I still do that I acted as I was directed, and I carried out the orders that I was given, and I do not feel wrong in doing so, sir.... "

After seven hours the jury sentenced Calley to life of hard labor. In the end, he only served only days in Fort Leavenworth, before being transferred back to Fort Benning, where he was placed under house arrest. His sentence was repeatedly reduced. Finally, he was pardoned by President Nixon. He was paroled in November, 1974.

I was only following orders is not a defense. You have a soul, you have a mental capacity to judge right from wrong. You have the moral obligation to protect and to serve.

You'd better start doing so.

[RightOnline]

"They don't appear to be in school at all, at the moment."

I've been homeschooling seven kids ....and for over 20 years. So shut yer trap if you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

[Texas Eagle]

Little Eichmanns.

[VMI70]

Reminds me of the pictures of the "palestinian" children in the white robes and headbands, holding the miniature AK47s, you know the ones, plastered all over the place here... and do we ever raise hell about that exploitation!
Exploitation of children is exploitation of children, no matter what the cause.

[nina0113]

I would bet a dollar to a donut that the county coroner will not order an autopsy to determine if any foul play had occurred in this poor lady's life.....

He won't get the chance - Michael's ordered an immediate cremation with no autopsy.

[GottaLuvAkitas1]

"There was a lesbian agnostic who is handicapped sitting out in front of the hospice according to Rush today. She said that she would rather have Christian conservatives take care of her than the ACLU and that hospice"

LOL, OUCH Smack down!!
I bet the libs say she was a Rep. plant.

[Blzbba]

""protesting the death of innocent Iraqis", eh? Very clever of you but I believe the protests have been against the entire war. The left didn't say, "The war is just but we're protesting the sloppiness."
No one on either side of the American political spectrum wants to see "innocent Iraqis" killed. America went to war to topple their mayhem-exporting dictator on behalf of the "innocent Iraqis."
Many brave Americans have given their lives to make others free and ensure our own safety after our country was attacked."


yeah, yeah, so is it OK to have one's children attend such rallies and make sure they get arrested and have their pictures in the media so that everyone can see how bad those mean ol' cops are for arresting them?

[Bob J]

Did you read 631?

[Blzbba]

"I'm not gona fall into the "gotcha" trap you're trying to set me up for. There is no hypocristy in what I say. "


There's no trap nor conspiracy here. I'm just trying to determine if you hold fast to a principle (in this case, the principle is 'Allowing Kids to Protest Political Events'). If you are for allowing these kids in FLA to try to cross a police line to give Terri water, then you can't be against some liberal parents' kids holding up some inane "No War For Oil" (or whatever - just using the most recent example) sign at a rally for a cause you do not support.


"I'm against indoctrination on EITHER side. "

Spoken like a conservative. (A good thing, IMO)


"But I will say that it is awfully cynical to just automatically assume these kids were forced...FORCED to go and do this as some kind of repugnant publicity stunt. "


So you think these kids knew that they'd be arrested when they decided to cross the cop line? The parents surely did, unless they're completely clueless.



"does that de-legitamize someone like young Kyle Williams who writes the "Veritas" column at World NEt Daily? He's a published conservative author as well...and he's only 14. I've ben reading his column for 2 years? "

I don't know - I've never heard of this columnist. But given the fact that the young man has never: Voted, Registered for military service at age 18, graduated high school/college, paid income tax, made a mortgage payment, paid a utility bill, got married, had kids, or other facets of life's experiences, it's hard for me to take him seriously. NOTE: I have NOT yet read the young man and admittedly am making a generalization.


"But then I guess he was forced into doing all of that by HIS parents too huh? I mean after all he IS just a minor right?"


I dunno. But yes - he IS just a minor. You know, there ARE reasons why children can't drive until 16/17, can't vote until 18, can't see an 'R' movie legally until 17, can't drink until 21 (non-military), and can't get married in most states at age 14. You do know why this is so, don't you?

[Bob J]

BTW - I believe what is happening to Terri is horrible. I don't understand how anyone, citizen, non-citizen, criminal, can show up at a hospital for treatment and the hospital be legally required to provide care regardless of ability to pay, until the patient can leave under their own power...but they can starve Terri to death.

I do believe in people being able to make living wills but I also believe if someone has not specified how they want these situations handled in advance, by legal written instrument, we assume they did not want any plugs pulled.