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Blue States Secession: One Southerner’s Perspective
CONSERVATIVE TRUTH.ORG ^ | NOVEMBER 22, 2004 | JAMES ATTICUS BOWDEN

Posted on 02/23/2005 9:13:07 PM PST by CHARLITE

Liberals are talking about the Blue States seceding from the Union. There’s a map on the Internet of the Blue States joining Canada. This is too serious for idle talk from the chattering class. Secession, if followed by invasion, conquest, occupation and ultimately cultural cleansing, is a terrible thing. Trust me, Southerners know about this. We need to help these Liberal hotheads cool down.

First, are the root causes worthy of sundering the Great Experiment – Democracy in America? Apparently, the two most important reasons for secession are partial-birth abortion and homosexual marriage. The Liberals are kidding, right? They can’t live in a society that bans infanticide – as every state did before the U.S. Supreme Court made up law, science and medicine in 1973. And, Liberals can’t survive where homosexuals can’t marry – as they never have, ever, from the tiniest tribe to the greatest (and most decadent) civilizations - until last year in the Netherlands? Ok, maybe we can’t make an argument against the sanctity of life and marriage just to keep the Liberals from leaving.

Second, there are serious survival issues of National Defense. The Red States would probably keep the nukes, since the Blue States would find them so environmentally offensive. I reckon the Red States, with 150 to 200 million people, are the same size of the whole U.S. from WW II through most of the Cold War (WW III). We can field large enough Armed Services since the South, Heartland and West are over-represented in today’s ranks. Red forces can keep women well away from combat – it’s a Southern thing about men protecting women and women nurturing families.

Third, will we lose WW IV? Blue States, like France and Germany, may not want to fight the Islamists anywhere we find their snake pits. Red States could lead the Coalition of the Willing, just as they provide the backbone today for U.S. will. Red States will never abandon Israel – it’s an Evangelical Christian thing about loving the Jews. So, fighting the Islamists for centuries appears not to be a problem.

But, certainly, there has to be some ruin. If the Blue States secede and join socialist, Criminalizing-Christian speech Canada, then they would be like Canada. That means we could ignore the Blue States totally, not care less about what they say or do, and make money trading with them – like Canada? This secession may not be a bad idea after all. Something must be terrible on the domestic front.

First, the Red States could live in a Federal Republic, like the Founders’ intended, with a Constitutionally-limited National Government – and an awesome military. The Blue States couldn’t impose their Liberal rule through a tyrannical judiciary. Today’s Judiciary would be abolished and rebuilt with strict Constitutional constructionist judges.

Second, the Red States could control illegal immigration without black-robed priest kings ruling away sovereignty from the bench. Hey, that means the Red States could control which Yankees move south? We could ban too many from contributing to urban sprawl and never, just never, stop telling us how it isn’t like ‘up North’? Our Judeo-Christian and Confederate heritage could be respected as history. End PC multiculturalism? Yi, Yi!

Third, the Blue States are ‘donor’ states to the Red in taxes that go into Federal programs. The Red States would have to live with fewer Federal programs, lower taxes and less Federal regulation. Possibly, the Red State governments would be poorer but individuals would be freer. Is that a bad thing? Every Southerner is descended from people who were dirt poor, values rich, and heroically strong after that last unpleasant attempt at secession. There are far worse things than being poor. Besides, truth is, the Capitalist Red economy would expand faster than Blue Socialism.

There has to be reason to beg the Blue States to stay. Surely, there’s something.

Hmmm, we will never be ruled by Hillary…makes you wonder.

Okay, just let the Blue States go. We can work out the borders. Big Red will need a corridor across California to San Diego for our Pacific port and fleet. Blue gets Washington, DC. Red gets the Pentagon. Maybe Arlington Cemetery will be an international zone, but Red will guard it. Blue gets the United Nations headquarters and debt. How about a coin toss for the name - United States of America - and for Old Glory as the flag? If Red loses, I know a design we can use with the Cross of St. Andrew.

Comments:JAtticus@aol.com

James Atticus Bowden has specialized in inter-disciplinary long range 'futures' studies for over a decade. He is employed by a Defense Department contractor for the Future Combat Systems. He is a retired United States Army Infantry Officer. He is a 1972 graduate of the United States Military Academy and earned graduate degrees from Harvard University and Columbia University. He holds two elected Republican Party offices in Virginia.


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1 posted on 02/23/2005 9:13:08 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Okay, just let the Blue States go.

Works for me. I'd love to finally move back to Tennessee, and live amongst sane people once more. :)

3 posted on 02/23/2005 9:15:58 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: CHARLITE
Secession, if followed by invasion, conquest, occupation and ultimately cultural cleansing, is a terrible thing.

Regarding the northern blue states, it would only be fair.

4 posted on 02/23/2005 9:19:08 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I've spent most of my life in New York, where people are relatively sane...compared to SEATTLE that is. This place is odd.


5 posted on 02/23/2005 9:21:25 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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The Blue States should secede if they want to, but I suspect that they are all talk & no action. Secession is after all one of the founding principles of the Republic.


6 posted on 02/23/2005 9:23:54 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: CHARLITE

Blue state folk are just like their UN brethren: They badmouth America, but they don't have the guts to leave it for a more appropriate place such as Europe or Canada.


7 posted on 02/23/2005 9:28:12 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Clemenza

"This place is odd."


If Seattle is odd, then I live
just outside odd-lite. ;o)


8 posted on 02/23/2005 9:47:55 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: GeorgiaConservative

Absolutely. I think it would be WONDERFUL if the blue states seceded from the Union...think of how much easier life would be for the REST OF US who live in the red states!

Methinks it's a shame that the South lost its War for Independence in 1865: the Yankee's victory is now coming back to haunt us. The southern states had just as much of a right to secede & govern themselves that the Revolutionaries did in 1776, & because the truths laid out in our Declaration of Independence are eternal, the blue states should leave us in peace ASAP & not look back.

BYE, BYE, BLUE!


9 posted on 02/23/2005 9:50:31 PM PST by libertyman
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To: WKB; bourbon; wardaddy; onyx; Magnolia

If the blue states secede,
I'll be movin' home!


10 posted on 02/23/2005 9:50:43 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: CHARLITE

The Blue States, now called the Socialist People's Republic of America will institute concentration 're-education' camps and the Red States would have to go and topple their dictator within a few years anyway


11 posted on 02/23/2005 10:00:45 PM PST by GeronL (Bush on the PRESS "They just float sewer out there.")
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To: GeronL

No, once they secede, to hell w/ them. Let 'em wither & rot on the socialist vine that they have planted.


12 posted on 02/23/2005 10:05:59 PM PST by libertyman
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To: GeronL
Superb comment. I love it!

"The Blue States, now called the Socialist People's Republic of America will institute concentration 're-education' camps and the Red States would have to go and topple their dictator within a few years anyway."


We keep the Master's legacy with US!

13 posted on 02/23/2005 10:09:01 PM PST by CHARLITE (glad to see lib Dem rats on sinking ship, unable to disembark)
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To: CHARLITE

A better solution would be to re-locate the people with "blue state" mentality out of the country permanently and we keep everything for ourselves. We can then get back to the business of running this country as it should be, a republic in which the Bill of Rights and the United States Constitution are upheld as they were intended in the first place.


14 posted on 02/23/2005 10:09:07 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: libertyman
They can have this guy to rule over them!


Prince of "Wails"! BOO-WAHH-H-H (:

15 posted on 02/23/2005 10:12:57 PM PST by CHARLITE (glad to see lib Dem rats on sinking ship, unable to disembark)
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To: cyborg

My goodness.
Please forgive my manners.
I meant to ping you, too.


16 posted on 02/23/2005 10:37:34 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: GeronL

>The Blue States, now called the Socialist People's Republic
>of America will institute concentration 're-education' camps

"will institute"?? They are called "universities" my friend.


17 posted on 02/23/2005 10:37:45 PM PST by ROTB
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To: CHARLITE

Reminds me of Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series, in which he writes about one planet's solution to useless parasites. They constructed two space arks, and told everybody that their sun was going to explode, or that a planet-gobbler was on the way, or that whatever it would be, it was gonna be really bad. Ark-B was reserved for telephone sanitizers, fashion consultants, PR execs and the like, whereas Ark-A was reserved for the rest of the planet.

Ark-B was sent off first, with the explanation that it was taking a lot of time to round up the working people for Ark-A, and that Ark-B needed to get going. Ark-B rocketed off (pre-programmed to crash-land safely on another planet with no hope of repair), and the rest of the planet stayed and lived happily ever after...for awhile...until a particularly virulent disease, spread by telephone receivers, spread wildly through the population due to the lack of telephone sanitizers, and the planet's homesteaders were quickly wiped out.

But barring that unhappy ending, we could try the same thing. Red staters can tell Blue staters, "You were right. We were wrong. 'The Day after Tomorrow' is absolute fact, and we all need to bolt to Mexico. But you ethnic and wymin's studies majors, class-action lawyers, NEA teachers, Hollywood actors, and fellow culturists are absolutely critical to recreate our culture down there, so you go first, and we'll stay back here to round up all your drug stashes, self-mutilation kits and Manifesto collections, and haul'em down for you. Don't worry about finding the way, the illegals will guide you back to their old haunts. Don't worry about all the military you'll see at the border. They're there to assist you across the border. So Bon Voyage, and we'll turn out all the lights when we leave..."


18 posted on 02/23/2005 11:51:02 PM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: dixiechick2000


I think we might just have to drag you home regardless!


19 posted on 02/24/2005 1:53:07 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: My2Cents
Secession, if followed by invasion, conquest, ccupation and ultimately cultural cleansing, is a terrible thing.

Like the carpet baggers & their ilk after the war.

20 posted on 02/24/2005 5:13:33 AM PST by Magnolia (Pennies a day help keep Liberals at bay.....become a monthly donor!)
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