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Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar

Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.

Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
I feel truly sorry for whatever woman was masochistic enough to marry you.

Yeah. I've been married and divorced a couple of times. I'm a little bitter.

But now I've got that world-weary, rugged and pissed-off attitude that you like so much in movie heroes. 'Cuz I care deeply about the cinema....

341 posted on 02/08/2005 9:04:52 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
"At this point, the lowest common denominator believes in dying if they aren't having enough fun. They pander to that in this movie--'cuz that's what movies are: Pandering to the lowest common denominator.

I hold that belief deeply..... LOL!"

Thou shalt kneel to the altar of sacred Hollywood....with all the other mind-numbed lemmings. Puleese...:-D

But yes, let's re-examine that ridiculous 'female boxing' premise to begin with... that sets up the story about chick who gets knocked on her arse so hard, she gets paralyzed. Which leads to a "compassionate" Harry Callahan...er...I mean Clint Eastwood, who "helps" her invalidate her life.

The "feel good" movie of the year no doubt.

342 posted on 02/08/2005 9:05:49 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Cogadh na Sith
Please don't speak that way,

It really is offensive,

Female spectator sports do not draw in nearly as many patrons (since most sports fans are men) but that doesn't mean they can't participate.
343 posted on 02/08/2005 9:08:28 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Zechariah11

You have a problem with what I wrote? I've read your posts and have found nothing insightful or profound. I don't expect that from you and have learned to deal with it. You should do the same.


344 posted on 02/08/2005 9:08:33 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Cogadh na Sith

RE: "I strength trained and sparred with the 8th US Army Middleweight Champion until I got into Muay Thai...."


Bully for you. But this still doesn't legitimize your inbred, redneck "keep women in their place" arguments. Whatever your physical strength, a man that would hold a woman down for reaching her goals out of an inflated sense of gender superiority is doomed to a frail, weak mental condition. God made man from His image, and He made woman from man; therefore woman is also in God's image, and should be respected as such just as much as men respect ourselves.


345 posted on 02/08/2005 9:08:49 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Cogadh na Sith

ROFL!


346 posted on 02/08/2005 9:09:23 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Well, just for completeness: Cobain did have Crohn's Disease (it's really, really bad, look it up) and was married to Courtney Love.

Rush had chronic back pain. They both abused drugs, but at least El Rushbo didn't snuff himself like Cobain and the chick in this movie.

He fought it and didn't blame anyone else. That makes him a good guy in my book.

Life isn't about being perfect, or even winning, it's about what you do when you are losing....

347 posted on 02/08/2005 9:10:20 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04


Rush's dependency- DOES HAPPEN AMONG THE CLEAN LIVING

Kurt Cobains- DOES NOT


348 posted on 02/08/2005 9:11:13 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I thought the advertising on this movie was Deceptive and many other people thought so as well,

Many others didn't feel it was deceptive. Do you have any other point, cuz you stated your point clearly, and I don't see why you keep perpetually repeating yourself.

349 posted on 02/08/2005 9:12:49 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Female boxing is an abomination and is symptomatic of what is wrong with the world.

It's disgusting.

Let 'em play whatever they want, but no blood sports with chicks.

350 posted on 02/08/2005 9:12:57 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
I know a Girl who has Crohn's disease, heroin is NOT a way of combatting it. Now if Cobain became addicted to his prescription pain medicine- I would understand.
351 posted on 02/08/2005 9:13:16 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Eastwood's on Jay Leno talkin' up the flick...


352 posted on 02/08/2005 9:13:57 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: jennyjenny


Many felt it was deceptive- thus the uproar.

that was my only problem with it,


353 posted on 02/08/2005 9:14:09 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: jennyjenny

OK, maybe I was a bit strong but the issue here is the advocacy (or not) of euthanasia in a movie. It is not about all the other utter crap that Hollywood puts out.


354 posted on 02/08/2005 9:14:17 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: neutrality
And it doesn't even in any way glorify it. I would say it's an enjoyable movie EVEN if you find that scene disgusting.

I agree. I liked the movie quite a bit. It did not glorify euthanasia, IMHO, even though it happened...and all the acting was very understated and excellent.

355 posted on 02/08/2005 9:14:19 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Female boxing is an abomination and is symptomatic of what is wrong with the world.

How so? Can you explain yourself?


356 posted on 02/08/2005 9:14:30 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

How about mud wrestling?


357 posted on 02/08/2005 9:15:59 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11


Oh no, I asked him to explain himself


358 posted on 02/08/2005 9:17:40 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
Whatever your physical strength, a man that would hold a woman down for reaching her goals out of an inflated sense of gender superiority is doomed to a frail, weak mental condition.

Well, in this case, her goal ended up getting her paralyzed and she couldn't take it so she begged another into murdering her. That kinda makes me think she should have been held back....

God made man from His image, and He made woman from man; therefore woman is also in God's image, and should be respected as such just as much as men respect ourselves.

Then why do you think it is OK for them to beat each others brains in in a men's blood sport?

I mean, heck, this movie you like kinda illustrates that they shouldn't even be there.

359 posted on 02/08/2005 9:18:01 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: jennyjenny

RE: "Ok, but for the record, I didn't like, The Aviator. There was a way better story that could have been told in that time frame, and no matter how someone tries to make up Leo, he still looks 22. They should have cast someone else to play HH."


I liked the Aviator for the grand, compelling, old-fashioned entertainment that it was, but I did think that the story sometimes bit off more than it could chew in tackling so many aspects of Hughes life at a time and cramming it all into 2 Hrs and 40 minutes. As a biography it felt both deliberate and abrupt at the same time, but individual scenes are spectacular, and the riveting plane crash sequence is worth the price of the ticket all by itself. Leo aquits himself only okay, but Cate Blanchett's Katherine Hepburn is a wonder, quickly moving from a broad parody of Kate's screen image to a more complex characterization of a woman made hard by the demands of her own fame.

I didn't think the Aviator was necessarily Best Picture material or that it was anywhere near one of Scorsese's best, but the movie has an assortment of riches that help me to understand what the Academy was thinking when it bestowed a best-in-field 11 nominations on the Aviator last month. We'll see how it all plays out on the 27th.


360 posted on 02/08/2005 9:18:16 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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