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Morris: How Hillary Becomes President in '08
NewsMax.com ^ | Tuesday, Dec. 28, 2004 7:14 a.m. EST | Editor: Newsmax

Posted on 12/29/2004 6:40:54 AM PST by seppel

Longtime presidential strategist Dick Morris had words of caution yesterday for those who say Hillary Clinton can't generate the kind of national support she needs to put herself back in White House in 2008.

Not only will Sen. Clinton win her party's nomination in a walk, the former Clinton adviser contends, her chances of beating the GOP four years from now are "superb."

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To: seppel

We must remember that Bill never got a majority of the vote and only one due to third party politics, else he never would have been president. Hillary's success is directly hinged to that of Bill. So many people are sick and tired of even hearing about Bill and many former supporters have such enormous hangovers that I don't think they could bring themselves to go vote.

I think that the turnout for the dims with Hillary in there would drop substantially.


23 posted on 12/29/2004 6:55:59 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: seppel

It would be a disasterous mistake for the reps not to take Hillary seriously and run an ideologue.


24 posted on 12/29/2004 6:55:59 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: Hartranft

You mean cause she's black? If we're not ready for a minority President by then, we'll never be ready for one.


25 posted on 12/29/2004 6:56:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Hillary should not be underestimated. The Republicans biggest problem with respect to the Clintons has always been that we have underestimated their strengths because we have been blinded by our own dislike of them.

There can be no doubt that this dislike is well founded. However, the best way to defeat a foe is to understand him (or, in this case...her).

We must understand and appreciate that she has an ability to reach out beyond the liberal base. She is a Methodist...and will do a better job than Kerry in talking about faith.

Further, she has positioned herself as a hawk on military and national defense issues.

There are a whole host of issues relating to the Clinton years that will be revisited. However, I am not certain that these issues will have much impact.

Realistically, her greatest weaknesses are those weaknesses afflicting the Democrats as a party -- values, Hollywood, Red v. Blue, etc.

However, I fully predict that she will have her own Sister Solijah moment (taking from her husband's playbook) in which she denounces the excesses of the Hollywood left. While some in Hollywood might scoff at this...chances are that they will play along with the game.


26 posted on 12/29/2004 6:56:33 AM PST by rowhey
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To: Hartranft

I'm well aware of the exceptions like Truman and JFK. Generally speaking though, voters want someone with executive management experience. A Senator by temperament and personality, doesn't hwve what it takes to be President. McCain is surely aware of this and he might want to run against Janet Napolitano in 2006. He would win her seat.


27 posted on 12/29/2004 6:58:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
I think he has some secret fetish or something.


28 posted on 12/29/2004 6:59:04 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Fruitbat
We must remember that Bill never got a majority of the vote....

Right. I think Hillary's best chance to win in '08 is with a credible third-party candidate splitting the Republican vote. That could happen with McCain or Rudy G getting the nomination....because a social conservative candidate will likely run and split the Republican vote, leading to a Hillary win.

29 posted on 12/29/2004 7:01:34 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: DooDahhhh

I can't stand a guy who will lick a toe then stick it in the air to see which way the (political) wind is blowing.


30 posted on 12/29/2004 7:01:56 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: seppel

I agree with Morris' conclusion, not his logic. He says:

"Rice is the only person who can stop Hillary Clinton from being president."

That has got to be the most absurd comment of the year. Rice is not going to be a factor in the race at all.

On the other hand, I think Hillary can win, and unlike Morris, I have a plausible reason why. It's because she has to do only one thing differently from Gore and Kerry: She's gotta win Florida.

And that is doable, if she demogogues social security and medicare. She's also got to win Kerry's Blue States, but that is also very doable. She's a shoo-in in all the states that Kerry won except Oregon, Minn., Wis., and perhaps Michigan, but even those states are not tough states for her. The GOP has no one on the horizon who could easily defeat her in any of those Blue States, with the possible exception of Guiliani, and as Morris says, Guiliani won't get the GOP nomination.


31 posted on 12/29/2004 7:02:32 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: goldstategop

The people don't know enough about Rice yet.

I don't either.

She will need some greater exposure.


32 posted on 12/29/2004 7:03:46 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Hartranft

Condi would not be viable "in very large" BLUE "areas of this country." She's and Auntie Toni.....


33 posted on 12/29/2004 7:05:09 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: William of Orange; theconservativerepublican; the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Hillary has already begun positioning herself to the right of Bush on illegal immigration. That puts the Southwest seriously in play. No, I'd says she carries it easy.

IMHOP, what gives the Democrats a strong advantage in 2008 is their having learnt their lesson. NAFTA and free trade were tickets to nowhere. The crowning legislative victory of Clinton's first term cost him the House and the Senate because it betrayed the Democratic blue collar voter, who since votes GOP on cultural values and patriotism. The only weapon the Democrats have against "moral values" is being the party that looks out for Joe Sixpack and letting the investment bankers define Kerry's limp positions on NAFTA, outsourcing, and free trade cost him the election (I think Gephardt could have beaten Bush.).


34 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:23 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Hartranft
Face facts people, Condi is not viable in very large RED areas of this country.

Nor sure I agree with that.

As well, many of those that Morris says would back Hitlery are already in blue states.

35 posted on 12/29/2004 7:08:18 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Brilliant

I agree with your analysis.

I like Dick Morris's commentary. He was always on the money about the election. Everything he said Bush should do, Bush did.

I think the first debate was lost simply because of the camera comparisons, showing Bush smaller than Kerry. What they had to say meant nothing.

In the following debates Bush looked more formidable.

There will be an even bigger backlash against Hillary, but I agree with him when he says she will be moving to the middle with National Security issues and make us believe that she is as moderately republican as Guliani.

nick


36 posted on 12/29/2004 7:10:14 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Sam the Sham
Hillary has already begun positioning herself to the right of Bush on illegal immigration. That puts the Southwest seriously in play. No, I'd says she carries it easy.

I haven't been up on this, but if true, then for it to be a factor, she had better begin sponsoring some legislation to back her rhetoric.

IMO peoples' analysis of this are once again forgetting the new media.

37 posted on 12/29/2004 7:11:27 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: InvisibleChurch

haha nice pic


38 posted on 12/29/2004 7:11:31 AM PST by winodog (I wonder where America would be if we had not lost 40+million in the thirty+ year war)
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To: nikos1121

Morris has been incorrect about a good many things as well. I like him generally speaking, but he's far from perfect in prognosticating politics.


39 posted on 12/29/2004 7:12:43 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Sam the Sham
Hillary has already begun positioning herself to the right of Bush on illegal immigration. That puts the Southwest seriously in play.

Not only the Southwest, but every state that is burdened under the massive numbers of illegals they are having to care for. Many non-border states are suffering severe financial woes due to illegals usurping the healthcare and educational services.
40 posted on 12/29/2004 7:13:50 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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