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Taking Sides: Kinsey (Warning, graphic content)
BreakPoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 2 Dec 04 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/02/2004 11:39:14 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

“Never make judgments.” That’s what scientist Alfred Kinsey tells his research assistant very early in the new film about his life. Kinsey, as you know, was all about nonjudgmentalism. Throughout his career researching the sexual habits of Americans, his goal was to free society from the constraints of what the movie calls “morality disguised as fact.” And like its subject, the film attempts to be nonjudgmental—or, at least, that’s the ploy.

Three scenes exemplify the supposed nonjudgmentalism. In the first, Kinsey tells his wife, nicknamed “Mac,” that he’s had sex with one of his male researchers. Though she’s devastated, he explains that it’s only “social restraints” that prevent people from acting on their attractions. She retorts that maybe social restraints are necessary to keep people from getting hurt. It’s a moment of rare honesty and insight—which doesn’t last long. The next thing we know, Kinsey is giving the same researcher permission to have sex with Mac, and this, apparently, makes everything okay.

In the second scene, Kinsey and a colleague interview a man, Kenneth Braun, who has had sex with an astonishing number of partners of various genders, ages, and species. When he starts to discuss his pedophilic experiences, Kinsey’s fellow researcher storms out. Braun says that he thought Kinsey’s researchers would be impartial, to which Kinsey enigmatically replies, “Sometimes it’s difficult.” But he adds that “no one should ever be hurt” by sex, leading Braun to call him a “square.”

In the third scene, Kinsey is so distraught over a loss of research funding that he ends up in the bathroom mutilating himself. When Mac discovers him, he shows her letters from people who have written to beg him for help and laments that now he can’t help them. For such a hard-boiled movie, the scene is surprisingly maudlin. And its message is clear: Kinsey is a martyr to the cause of truth and compassion.

Now the facts: Kinsey, as his biographers report, had been mutilating himself for years as a result of a sexual appetite so voracious and uncontrollable that it led him into ever more bizarre practices.

And the real Kinsey didn’t seem to care who got hurt by his own activities or those of others. The prototype for Braun was a pedophile named Rex King, one of several pedophiles whose “research” Kinsey used. Kinsey’s defenders rationalize that just because Kinsey used such data, it does not mean he condoned the activity. None of them that I know of have ever explained why Kinsey wrote to King, “I congratulate you on the research spirit which has led you to collect data over these many years.”

From this repulsive data was born the pervasive myth that children are sexual beings from infancy. (It’s worth noting, as well, that Kinsey’s research methods were flawed in many other ways, another fact that his supporters gloss over as much as possible.)

This is the man that Hollywood has chosen to honor? And make no mistake, the film honors Kinsey. Now, I doubt many of you will be seeing the film—good. But your neighbors and friends are seeing it and are discussing it. And you need to help set them straight. Kinsey does not deserve to be anyone’s hero.


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To: LibFreeOrDie

Good Grief. Talk about criminal activity...

http://www.inoohr.org/kinsey.htm

(And Hollywood makes him heroic!?)


61 posted on 12/02/2004 2:40:23 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Mr. Silverback
The prototype for Braun was a pedophile named Rex King, one of several pedophiles whose “research” Kinsey used. Kinsey’s defenders rationalize that just because Kinsey used such data, it does not mean he condoned the activity. None of them that I know of have ever explained why Kinsey wrote to King, “I congratulate you on the research spirit which has led you to collect data over these many years.”

Sounds like something Uncle Screwtape could have written to his nephew Wormwood.

62 posted on 12/02/2004 2:42:31 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Kenneth Braun, who has had sex with an astonishing number of partners of various genders..."

What's wrong with this sentence?

Mr. Braun has discovered some other genders besides the basic two?

63 posted on 12/02/2004 2:43:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Well, there's also the transgender set.

Male to female. (gender #3)

Female to male. (gender #4)

64 posted on 12/02/2004 2:46:24 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Rummyfan
"Kinsey was a pervert masquerading as a scientist." Right. In the late 40's early 50's when he produced his blockbuster study on human sexuality it was very difficult to get dirty books. So he just wrote one himself.
65 posted on 12/02/2004 2:49:54 PM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: Mr. Silverback
No problem. Kinsey's work had a profound effect on my childhood (the details of which I will not discuss). I want that monster's legacy to equate to that of Hitler or Stalin, where it justly belongs.
66 posted on 12/02/2004 2:52:04 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Nope. Ain't but two.

Tab "A" = Gender #1
Slot "B" = Gender # 2

It doesn't much matter what else is going on physiologically.

67 posted on 12/02/2004 2:53:37 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
How many films have you seen where Stalin was portrayed as a person who never really hurt anyone?

Have you read Stalin's NY Times Obituary?

68 posted on 12/02/2004 2:53:44 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I should have been clearer. I agree that God, whose opinion is the only one that matters, made male and female, period.

However, folks like Kinsey have no respect for God's authority. From such a warped perspective, more than two genders are possible.

69 posted on 12/02/2004 2:57:23 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Stalin's obituary was made into a movie?


70 posted on 12/02/2004 2:58:43 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Well, technically, not a movie, but certainly a favorable portrayal.


71 posted on 12/02/2004 3:00:08 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I should have been clearer.

Actually, I looked at my reply and thought that I should have been clearer as well.

I was speaking in only in terms of Kinsey's warped sexual predilections. He and his "research subjects" were only interested in sexual gratification. Procreation did not enter into the equation at all. Thus, internal physiology is immaterial. Tab "A" and Slot "B" is all that mattered.

72 posted on 12/02/2004 3:08:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Aids?


73 posted on 12/02/2004 3:08:34 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: sgtbono2002
They just aint making movies like the "Bells of St. Marys" or Miracle on 34th street anymore

Thanks goodness for thre VCR and DVD player. Tonight, hubbie & I will be be watching one of the above movies with our 8 year old son. I may try to get them to watch "It's a Wonderful Life" though, as we've already watched "Miracle" once this season. It's a Thanksgiving Day tradition around here.

74 posted on 12/02/2004 3:10:18 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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To: GianniV
Fu-k you, Billy, and your stupid Yankees hat.

Damn right!

That little, human stool pisses the hell out of me when he starts rambling on about Micky Mantle.

Crystal couldn't carry 'The Mick's' jock.

75 posted on 12/02/2004 3:19:59 PM PST by johnny7 (“An where do 'youz get off 'callin me Nick?!” -Sheldon Leonard)
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To: GianniV
You know who Billy Crystal says his best friend is, don't you? Rob Reiner.

Here's Rob at an antiwar rally in Los Angeles just before we entered Iraq. Rob is ordering cheese on his Whopper.


76 posted on 12/02/2004 4:01:14 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
nobody would ever make a film portraying Hitler sympathetically.

I wouldn't say Nobody. Arabs certainly might. After all he was their hero for killing so many Jews. Plenty of neo-nazi skin head types out there as well.

But there's a lot more who would portray Uncle Joe (and Uncle Ho) as merely misunderstood patriots, regardless of how many people they butchered.

77 posted on 12/02/2004 4:04:22 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Have you read Stalin's NY Times Obituary?

That was enough to gag a maggot. I guess the Old Gray Lady as been the Old Red Whore a lot longer than I thought. Barf!

78 posted on 12/02/2004 4:06:33 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: LtKerst
The pedophiles helped the Gays get power, now the Gays will help the Pedophiles.

A lot of gays are pedophiles and a lot of pedophiles are gay.....Both are sexual deviants........Media wants to destroy Christianity because of the absolutes....Liberals want the freedom to have NOTHING deemed evil.......

79 posted on 12/02/2004 4:16:49 PM PST by savagesusie (I need my Savage fix!!!!)
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To: Stratman

So did the Marquis de sade


80 posted on 12/02/2004 4:17:00 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (If God doesnt destroy Hollywood he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.)
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