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Has Genghis' Tomb Been Found?
China.Org ^ | 11-26-2004 | Shao Da

Posted on 11/26/2004 12:11:59 PM PST by blam

Has Genghis' Tomb Been Found?

After four years' work, a joint team of Japanese and Mongolian archaeologists announced on October 4 that they had found what they believe to be the true mausoleum of Genghis Khan (1162-1227).

The ruins, dated to between the 13th and 15th century, were found at Avraga, around 250 kilometers east of Ulan Bator, the capital of the People's Republic of Mongolia. Team members said that they expect the discovery to provide clues to the whereabouts of the khan's actual burial site, which they believe may be within 12 kilometers of the mausoleum.

There is a preexisting mausoleum in China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, rebuilt by the government in 1954. Most historians agree that Genghis Khan died in 1227 when going out to battle in the Liupan Mountains in today's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, but they do not agree on where he was buried.

The Chinese mausoleum is located on the vast Ordos Plateau, 30 kilometers south of Ejin Horo Banner. It comprises four palaces covering an area of over 50,000 square meters. Two huge flagpoles decorated with nine galloping steeds stand aloft before the 26-meter-high main palace, symbolizing the Mongol's prosperity and happiness. There is a tomb here, but it only contains the khan's personal effects and not his actual remains.

Liu Zhaohe, director of the Cultural Relics Bureau in Inner Mongolia, insists that what the Japanese-Mongolian team found are palace ruins, and according to nomadic people's funeral customs, the khan would not be buried either within or near his palaces.

Liu said that in 2001 a US-Mongolian expedition also announced it had discovered the khan's burial place on a hillside northeast of Ulan Bator.

He added that Genghis Khan left testament for his burial place to be kept secret, and all the emperors of the Yuan Dynasty (1279-1368) followed suit. So far not a single Yuan Dynasty emperor's tomb has ever been found.

Because of the secrecy, the subject has always been the cause of controversy and speculation; that his warriors looted large amounts of treasure while sweeping across Eurasia adds another incentive to discover its location.

Legend says that the surface of his tomb was trodden smooth by tens of thousands of horses before being planted with trees. The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

Over the past decades teams from many countries, including Hungary, Poland, the United States, Japan, Italy, Germany, France, Canada, Russia, Turkey and South Korea, have invested heavily in seeking it.

Qi Zhongyi, a 34th generation descendant of Genghis Khan, is adamant that the mausoleum in China is the sacred place as far as Mongols are concerned, and disapproves of attempts to find his final resting place.

Displaying a portrait of the khan's family that was acquired when his coffin was opened during a grand memorial ceremony in 1954, Qi said: "For generations Genghis Khan's exact burial place has remained a mystery. We should not go against our ancestor's behests to try to unveil it."

According to Shamanist beliefs, Mongolian people worshiped the soul of the deceased, not their remains, said Qi. Historical records say the white camel hair, to which the khan's soul was believed to adhere, was buried in the mausoleum on the Ordos Plateau.

Memorial ceremony is held in the mausoleum four times each year. "For hundreds of years, people have come here to pay their respects. So attempts to find his tomb is both unnecessary and meaningless," Qi said.

Mongolian President Nachagyn Bagabandy once said while visiting China that it's not important where Genghis Khan was buried and that we should respect his wish to keep his burial site a secret.

(China.org.cn by Shao Da, November 26, 2004)


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To: blam

This thread is going to be seared - SEARED - into my memory.


41 posted on 11/26/2004 3:21:03 PM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: escapefromboston
The UberPage of the First Church of Shatnerology

Second National Church of Shatnerology

42 posted on 11/26/2004 4:34:29 PM PST by solitas
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To: solitas

Everyone knows about Genghis Khan, I want to know about Gengis Khan't!


43 posted on 11/26/2004 5:55:33 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: bullseye876

"Isn't Genghis an ancestor of Kerry's? What was Kerry's father or father's eastern euro surname? Kohn? Sounds a lot like Khan to me."

Actually it's from Cohen, as in Cohenim, the high priests of the Hebrew temple, who are descended from Aaron.


44 posted on 11/26/2004 6:56:42 PM PST by adam_az (Nov. 3, 2004: Our Republic is Secure!)
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To: theFIRMbss

And don't forget that for the women, it has Gerard Butler in a short skirt and bare chest!

Yum!


45 posted on 11/27/2004 6:22:27 AM PST by najida (Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.)
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To: blam

So, once one reads the first two paragraphs, it becomes obvious that they use Democratic double speak. The answer is NO, they have not found his burial site. They do know they are on the right continent.


46 posted on 11/27/2004 6:26:37 AM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: blam
According to Shamanist beliefs, Mongolian people worshiped the soul of the deceased, not their remains, said Qi. Historical records say the white camel hair, to which the khan's soul was believed to adhere, was buried in the mausoleum on the Ordos Plateau.

All the more reason to find the tomb. Genghis was not a very nice person. We could dye the camel hair, perm it, hot roll it, and then beat the hell out of it.:)

47 posted on 11/27/2004 7:04:16 AM PST by xJones
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To: blam; mhking
It's too bad that one of his descendents couldn't have been in on the discovery. Then they could have said Khan found it!
48 posted on 11/27/2004 9:52:44 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Shqipo
"...kinda like when a "New Dinosaur" was discovered every other day ten years ago and a "New Galaxy" here and there a few years back. Show me something more than a finger bone or a scrap of cement before such declarations are made."

Funny, I read an article two days ago that said 73% of the disosaur species are yet to be discovered.

49 posted on 11/27/2004 11:28:56 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

I'll bet that was a surprise. The first temporary employment contract.

50 posted on 11/27/2004 11:35:31 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: blam

Oh no! Soon, he'll awaken, and control New York City with his uber-mental powers... and THEN he'll force some geeky scientist to make a super-powerful post-nuclear weapon out of the same material his currency was made out of... How can he be stopped? Only the Shadow can help us now...!

(God that was an awful movie... deserved the "Oliver Stone" award for totally butchering what should've been unbutcherable source material. Baldwin should've been exiled to France for that effort rather than just moaning about how he'd go there if Bush won.)

Qwinn


51 posted on 11/27/2004 3:12:05 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: blam

August 13 is the end of July according to the Julian calendar


52 posted on 02/01/2005 6:06:56 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: blam

I personally hope they have not, nor do they ever find his tomb. I think some things should be left to the realm of mystery.

BUT, if they have, I sincerely hope they maintain the site without plundering it. I don't expect them to, but one can dream.


53 posted on 02/01/2005 6:11:47 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: theFIRMbss

Sexy Australian girl?!?!?! All I saw was the extremely hot and yummy Gerard Butler! There were chicks in the movie?


54 posted on 02/01/2005 6:13:56 PM PST by rintense
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To: FastCoyote
Everyone knows about Genghis Khan, I want to know about Gengis Khan't!

I think he was Immanuel's sinister alter-ego.

55 posted on 02/01/2005 6:15:03 PM PST by malakhi
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To: blam

Ping me when someone finds Kubla's pleasure dome.


56 posted on 02/01/2005 6:17:05 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Publius6961

According to what I've read, an army went out to a specified point. At that time, the 800 soldiers and laborers went out. The soldiers camped and waited for the laborers who went out and performed the buriel at a spot unknown to the soldiers. The laborers returned to the 800 soldiers, not knowing the soldiers had orders to murder them all, so Khan's whereabouts would not be known. When the soldiers returned to the main army, they were murdered, in case any of the laborers had revealed the whereabouts of the tomb to save his life. The 800 returning soldiers did not know that they were going to be murdered either. It's been a few years since I read the account, so some other Freeps may be able to clear up any errors I made, but this is basically the account.


57 posted on 02/01/2005 6:20:11 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: Richard Kimball
"It's been a few years since I read the account, so some other Freeps may be able to clear up any errors I made, but this is basically the account."

I've read the same or similar story.

58 posted on 02/01/2005 8:24:16 PM PST by blam
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