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Vindicating the Serbian People: An 'Aerial' Counter-Attack
Serbianna ^ | Friday, November 12, 2004 | T.V. Weber

Posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:06 AM PST by Calpernia

The last of Clinton’s bombs fell on Serbia over five years ago. But now, America is focused on another war, so that the media in the U.S. can treat Clinton’s debacle in the Balkans, and its ongoing aftermath, as though they were yesterday’s news. It is easy to see why the American public has not yet come to terms with a number of vital issues connected with those events.

Unanswered Questions in the Balkans:

Where is the evidence of “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo - and where are those “mass graves”?

Each war gets a different media “spin.” The direction of “spin” depends upon whether the media intend to help or to hurt the current administration. For several years, the U.S. media have been relentlessly harping upon the question of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and demanding to know whether any of them have been found. We know that Iraq once had them. We know that they once used them. We know that Iraq did not side with the U.S. in the so-called “war on terrorism.” (Considering that radical factions of Islam have declared war on the U.S., it is a nonsequitor to declare war on a tactic rather than an enemy. See Rip Snortin' Van Winkle & Strange Bedfellows--Then and Now for our earlier comments.) We know that Saddam Hussein publicly offered large sums of money to the families of suicide bombers. Yet we keep encountering the same public expressions of outrage in the U.S. Many continue to ask, “Where are those weapons that were supposed to be in Iraq?”

Well, Serbia was never allied with anyone who attacked the US—never ever! Out of the blue, the Clinton-dominated media began concocting tales of “ethnic cleansing” that accused the Serbs of atrocities comparable to those of the Third Reich. As the war against the Serbian people raged on, the American public was fed a steady diet of what were purported to be “aerial photos of mass graves.” So, five years later, where are those “mass graves”?

Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

We are getting almost daily reports of the ongoing mess that has followed the Bushes’ war in Iraq. This is a valid concern. Many have pointed out the dismal failure of America’s attempt to force its own idea of “democracy” on the Iraqi people.

But where is the outrage over the mess that US foreign policy has made in Kosovo? The people that the U.S. and its NATO allies were allegedly fighting to protect were, and still are, the worst violators of minority rights on the planet.

Following my article, The Tale of Two Shquiptars, I heard from a number of individuals who claimed to be young Albanians. They all engaged in polite dialog. They all told me, in one way or another, that Islam played no role in the reasons for the conflict between their people and the Serbs in Kosovo. They also scoffed at my claims that al-Qaeda and the KLA had any connection with that war. In every other way, their stories diverged so much that they each seemed to be talking about a different conflict. Most of them asked me to set the folks at Serbianna straight.

After I referred them all to the detailed information available on Emperors Clothes at Bin Laden in the Balkans, none of them could give me a cogent reason to doubt the information presented there. Since then, we have received permission from Emperors Clothes to post the data on our website, www.tvweber.com, also, at www.tvweber.com/binLaden_KLA.htm. So why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

Taking It to the Air

One of the reasons for getting my book to press was that it would afford an opportunity to vindicate the Serbs. The title of the book, The Crumbling Wall Against Tyranny: a/k/a The United States Constitution, does not give the slightest suggestion that there is anything in it that would remotely relate to the Balkans. Even so, in the span of seven pages, the reader sees a clear link between Clinton’s radical Muslim allies in the Balkans and the perpetrators of the 9-11 attack upon the United States. Those tragedies exemplify what can happen when the president is permitted to flout the Constitution with impunity, and to usurp powers not granted to the Presidency under the Constitution.

Using talk radio, we now have a chance to get these messages to the Christian people in America. It is my personal “aerial attack” upon the misinformation and propaganda that bombards us all.

Hence, among the suggested questions for discussion that my publicist sends to radio talk show hosts is: “Why do you call President Clinton, ‘al Qaeda’s man in the White House?’”

With the world listening, I explain in concise, “sound bite” language that Clinton conducted a war against the Christian people of the Balkans, on behalf of bin Laden’s allies. I don’t even need to say the word “Serb.” Some listeners understand immediately; others will need to think about the message first. But a Christian audience should have no trouble getting the message.

If the Crumbling Wall Falls, Tyranny Reigns

My book is about the American system of government, how it should work, and why it no longer works so well. It roundly condemns the actions of those U.S. presidents who have—contrary to their Constitutional status—assumed the powers that allowed Clinton to launch his war against the Serbian people without interference from Congress.

Only Congress has the power to declare war, and there had been no declaration of war, yet Congress sat back and let the war continue. It is illegal for a President to do as Clinton did; yet the American people accepted it. Neither Congress nor the American people attempted to stop him.

The potential for tyranny is great when one man can single-handedly start a war and no one dare raise a hand to stop him.

America at the Crossroads

The bitterness of the 2004 campaign season is one more piece of evidence that the US has lost its Constitutional moorings. Every four years, we can each offer a miniscule degree of input regarding who our next dictator will be. Except for those who have already resigned themselves to the idea of being, in effect, slaves to the government of the United State (intentionally leaving the “s” out of “States), and those who feel that the U.S. is beyond hope, citizens are in absolute horror over the outcome of each election.

With the Clinton administration long out of power, it is time for America to make amends. Both Democrats and Republicans need to take an honest look at Clinton’s failed foreign policy and assume responsibility for setting matters aright.

With the President’s new administration about to begin, there is absolutely NO excuse for retaining anyone in the federal government who still considers the Serbs to be “war criminals,” the Russians to be our “geopolitical rivals,” and the KLA and Bosnian Muslim fanatics to be our “friends.” It is not our purpose to raise the issue of the Constitutional definition of treason, which was once a capital offense rather than a prerequisite for entry into America’s self-styled elite. But it is entirely reasonable to insist that the federal government cease to employ those people in any position of public trust!

The administration needs to look for honest and capable people who are free of racist bigotry against Slavic peoples, and free of religious bigotry against Orthodox Christians. It may even be necessary to recruit candidates from sources other than the Ivy League, the University of Chicago, or the Beltway “think tanks,” which evidently have become breeding grounds for their own particular prejudices and distorted worldviews.

The Serbs have been an ally of the U.S. since there was a free Serbia in the 19th century. Isn’t it time to renounce Clinton’s failed Balkans policy, apologize to the Serbian people, and restore the lands that they have lost due to the wrongful intervention of the American military?

If not, let us remind you of the slogan, “Serbia, the land where empires die.” Who would have expected the once-mighty empire of the Ottoman Turks, the Austro-Hungarian empire of the Hapsburgs, and the formidable Nazi empire of the Third Reich, all to become extinct after picking on tiny Serbia? On what basis do the American government and people claim to be the sole exception to the principles of history and of common sense that apply to everyone else? Is America too blinded by vainglorious pride to see that it is following the same downhill path that landed its old enemies in the dustbin of history?

Far better for the US to swallow its national pride, repent of its errors, and join hands with Serbia in heartfelt cooperation—so that al-Qaeda can be the next empire to die in the Balkans rather than America’s empire.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; balkanalqaeda; balkans; bush; clinton; clintonlegacy; conspiracy; ethniccleansing; iraq; islam; kosovo; media; obl; propaganda; racak; serbia; tinfoilhat; wmd; wot
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To: Calpernia
I would expect an investigation into the prior administration and charges to be applied for criminal activity or treason if founded.

Don't expect that, either.

41 posted on 11/12/2004 12:44:16 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

I pray you are wrong.


42 posted on 11/12/2004 12:46:43 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DTA

Racak happened.
The Serbian Police gathered up the men and executed them in a ditch.
I know because I was there. I watched the attack all day and was in Racak within 30 minutes of the Serbs leaving.

After that and a few other incidents in Jan 99, the Serbs got what they desrved.


43 posted on 11/12/2004 1:00:06 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: oso blanco
Clinton's handing Eastern Europe over to al Qaeda was stupid.

"handing...Eastern Europe to Al Qaeda???????" The major Al Qaeda bases were in Sudan & Afghanistan. The majority of AlQaeda members are from the Arab shield area with the rest mostly from N. Africa & the 'stans. Outside those areas, the 9-11 planning & prep was concentrated in Germany & the USA. Eastern Europe countries from Albania, Macedonia,& Bulgaria in the south on up to Poland in the north are providing troops in Iraq & Afghanistan and offering superb cooperation in the war on terror. So...say what?

44 posted on 11/12/2004 1:01:35 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Paratrooper_501
Uh-0h, Paratrooper. You're going to make some people's heads burst. We've got lots of Serb apologists & fellow travellers on this forum. It is an article of faith with them that Racak was a hoax. The normal story-line is that the Serbs didn't do it, besides nobody saw us do it, and the Albanians deserved it anyway. Welcome aboard.

KVM?

45 posted on 11/12/2004 1:13:08 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Paratrooper_501; mark502inf

KVM?? KLA? or RBJ?

There's more than one alternative.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 1:25:27 PM PST by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! And please DON'T feed the trolls!)
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To: Paratrooper_501
>>>Since Nov 12, 2004<<<

Welcome to the FR.

It will be interesting to get your view. Hope you pack your chute by yourself :-)

47 posted on 11/12/2004 1:37:41 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: Jane_N
You forgot the alternative who actually committed the executions - MUP.

That is of course unless 200 KLA disguised themselves as Serbian Policemen (MUP) and attacked themselves supported by an armored company team from the Serbian Army. LOL

The KLA was not based in Racak. It was in a town several kilometers south of there.
48 posted on 11/12/2004 2:08:56 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: DTA

Thanks for the welcome.

The people in Racak were not KLA, but they did actively support and provide food, etc. to the KLA. The KLA was nearby, based in a town several kilometers south. The Serbian Police attacked and rather than try to differentiate KLA from civilian just executed all the men of military age. There were several KLA killed that day, but the KLA readily admitted to them.

Unless the Serbs are much better marksmen than our Soldiers I know these were all executions since nearly every man was shot in the head. Half of them, 24 if I remember correctly, were shot in the head, in a group, in a ditch. The remainder were scattered. I documented each one and the person I was with took pictures, so I know this to be factual.


49 posted on 11/12/2004 2:17:39 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: oso blanco

During my time in Kosovo, Nov 98 to Jan 99, I dealt extensively with the KLA and saw no evidence to suggest that Arabs were there helping them. I also have seldom seen a group of people more pro-American than the Albanians.


51 posted on 11/12/2004 2:46:12 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: Old Landmarks
The Serbians are generally Orthodox Christian and were basically fighting Muslims in this time period. (are they good peaceful bible-believers?, they don't have to be, just more Christian than their opponents)

Precisely, I am Serbian Orthodox and none of us understood why we would be backing the terrorists.
52 posted on 11/12/2004 4:11:57 PM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: weshess
I found the Serbian people to be very nice. It was just the FRY gov't that was executing bad policies and actions. FYI - approximately 20% of the Kosovar Albanians were Roman Catholic. The Serbian gov't treated them just as badly as they did the Muslims. I personally spoke with one Roman Catholic priest who was threatened with death if he rebuilt his church. He had petitioned the Orthodox hierarchy in Belgrade for help and they refused him. I even took communion with his congregation which was so full there were people standing outside.

The problem in Kosovo appeared to me to be entirely along ethnic, rather than religious lines. The Kosovar Muslims I knew were not Islamists. They supported our actions in Iraq (98-99). One of my translators who was Muslim even wore a crucifix around his neck in memory of one of his Christian friends killed by Serbian police.
53 posted on 11/12/2004 4:44:37 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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To: mark502inf

Thanks for pointing that out.


54 posted on 11/12/2004 5:19:17 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: oso blanco
the KLA is al Qaeda

Complete horse manure. You are delusional if you think bin Laden or Al Qaeda cranked up the Kosovo conflict or the Kosovo Liberation Army. The KLA is just the latest manifestation of Albanians that have been fighting for independence for the last hundred+ years--first against the Ottomans and then versus the Serbs. The Serb-Albanian conflict pre-dates bin Laden and it pre-dates Al Qaeda. By a lot.

KLA Background: After a try at peaceful resistance & a shadow govt in the early 90s, the Kosovar Albs felt betrayed when their issues weren't addressed at the 95 Dayton Accords. The KLA armed resistance became active after that, but was not very effective until the 1997 civil unrest next-door in Albania made available tens of thousand of weapons and lots of ammo from the looted military installations. Serious fighting began shortly thereafter.

The KLA started with only a few hundred hard core members, but after the standard Serb over-reactions in the form of massacres and village burnings, Albanians joined by the thousands. The fight against the Serbs in 98-99 was a classic popular revolt.

The KLA included Albanians who were Sunni, Bektashi, Orthodox, Catholic, and irreligious. Some hundreds of foreign mujahadeen are also known to have traveled to Kosovo along with thousands of Albanians from the diaspora. However, unlike in Bosnia some years earlier, the USA was ready & warned the KLA not to cooperate with Al Qaeda. The only documented Al Qaeda contact with the KLA is described in this news report:

He [Al Kader] confessed to being a member of one of bin Laden’s groups and told investigators he had been sent to give weapons to the guerrillas of the Kosovo Liberation Army, then beginning their war against the Serbs. The KLA had promised US officials it would not co-operate with fundamentalists. Mr Kader said the KLA had turned him down and that he had returned to Albania, still with his weapons.

And so far, there has been no hard eveidence beyond that KLA rejection of Al Qaeda. If the Serbs had captured or killed any actual Al Qaeda, they darn sure would have loudly announced & paraded that evidence. Never happened, although they did try to spin every sighting of a bearded fighter or discovery of a foreign passport into an Al Qaeda spotting.

Here's more: Bin Laden issued his fatwa to al Qaeda to kill Americans in early 98, but not an American has ever been killed to hostile action in Kosovo. Rugova, the elected president of Kosovo is a Catholic. The Albanians are decidedly secular as I and everyone else who’s actually been there knows. So, yeah, in between drinking raki, refusing to take bin Laden's weapons, ogling the Pristina girls in tight jeans, and volunteering at our consulate in Pristina to go fight the Taliban, those guys are real “Islamists”.

Serb propagandists are selling the "Islamist" & Al Qaeda angle very hard, spamming out unsubstantiated assertions and counting on the lack of first hand knowledge most people have of the real situation in the Balkans combined with our war on Islamist terrorism to gain them sympathy & support. It does seem to work on some folks.

55 posted on 11/12/2004 5:32:00 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: AuntB; oso blanco
Thanks for pointing that out.

Aunt B, you answered me much nicer than I did you. And oso blanco, I apologize for the tone of my last post to you.

56 posted on 11/12/2004 5:46:37 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: Paratrooper_501

You were there ???

AS WHAT were you there ???


58 posted on 11/12/2004 7:10:49 PM PST by dj_animal_2000
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To: oso blanco
Fair enough. However, all Muslims are not Al Qaeda fanatics.

I will rephrase what I said earlier. I never saw any evidence of Muslim fanatics in Kosovo. The Albanian Muslims I knew demonstrated absolutely no feeling of kinship with Middle Eastern Muslims and they loved everything about the USA.

The Albanians were not fighting to establish Sharia as is Al Qaeda. They were fighting for freedom from a tyrannical government.
59 posted on 11/12/2004 7:23:50 PM PST by Paratrooper_501
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