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Usama bin Laden is Dead
Froggy Ruminations ^ | October 16, 2004 | Matthew Heidt

Posted on 10/17/2004 2:25:45 AM PDT by billorites

You hadn't heard? Well, I'm not breaking news, President Bush knows damn well that UBL has been dead for quite some time. But why would Bush keep it to himself? If he were to disclose his knowledge that UBL is dead he would blow John Kerry's doors off in the election, and yet he remains silent. Why?

Maybe you're wondering how I know he's dead. Perhaps one of my SEAL buddies let me in on the secret? NO. I know because a publicity whore and grandstanding scumbag like UBL could not possibly resist the multitude of opportunites to inspire his cult members. His number 1, Zwahiri, has appeared on video or audio broadcasts every few months since 9/11. UBL has not been heard from since Tora Bora despite developments in the GWOT in Afghanistan and Iraq that make it unthinkable for him to have remained silent. Not to mention successful attacks in Bali, Madrid, Turkey, and Jakarta to name a few that remain unremarked upon by UBL. The invasion and occupation of an Islamic state by the US and not a word. Elections held for the first time in Afghan history, and he had nothing to say about it in the lead up. AQ tried once early on to air a tape that never mentioned key developments in the Afghan campaign and was quickly discredited as an attempt to put one over on his followers by airing a previous recording. Zwahiri decided that it was better to just pretend that UBL was alive because there was no plausible martyr story to tell. UBL went out running for his life like a coward. He is dead. His remains are turds shat by scavenging animals in the mountains of Afghanistan blown by the wind and stomped on by US troops.

By why not make it public? After all, this is the one thing that could ensure the President's re-election. Have you noticed how coy DOD officials and high ranking officers are when the question is posed? They know. They certainly have intelligence to this effect. Of course, the President could have instructed subordinates to start saying that intel indicates UBL is dead. This would have put pressure on him to prove otherwise by issuing a statement which he is clearly unable to make. This process could have started 6 months ago, and if UBL did not answer, it would in effect prove the case. But it didn't happen. Why not?

Because the President knows that making UBL a martyr would serve to further inspire his minions, and he realizes that preventing this from happening is more important than his re-election. Instead, UBL remains forever silent even as his recruits yearn to hear his voice. Eventually these cultists will realize themselves that UBL went out like a punk, not a martyr and that the AQ head shed has been lying to them for years. That realization combined with US combat boots knocking their teeth down their throats will go a long way to beating this cult into submission. But it is important to recognize that the President's committment to killing terrorists supercedes his committment to his own re-election. I'm sure he hopes that the American people will come to this conclusion on their own and vote for him anyway, but it is quite a risk to take in the ultimate ME situation.

This kind of integrity and committment stands in stark contrast to his opponent. Kerry has proved to be a Blue Falcon, a traitor, a louse, a shameless opportunist, and an lazy bureaucrat that pads his resume. Kerry is a smart guy too, and he realizes what is going on. But it hasn't stopped him from trying to bait the President into abandoning a critical propaganda victory in the GWOT by incessantly peddling his Tora Bora "outsourcing" charge in all three debates. He knows that the President will not respond to this charge so he is free to make it. Just like the Cheney lesbian scheme, this is a coordinated hatchet job, but this is on an issue that Kerry knows the President must choose to either defend the SOF troops that got the job done or remain silent. To his personal credit he never took the bait, but to his professional detriment he must let an unanswered charge linger. Do you have that kind of discipline? Especially in crunchtime? I don't know if I do, and I'll be happy to never have to find out.

President Bush, meanwhile, has just continued to keep the pressure on the terrorists, get us out of a recession, protect the homeland, and generally put the country's interests ahead of his own. He deserves your vote.


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To: DB

Some gentleman (I forgot the name) who is supposedly an expert in these matters has a new book out. He was a guest on Hannity's show 2 weeks ago. He claimed UBL was last seen in June or July of 2003 in Iran.


141 posted on 10/20/2004 3:37:06 PM PDT by Muzzle_em
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To: knews_hound

"Note that they always say that the "voice appears to be that of Bin Laden" , or that "intelligence sources confirmed that it is Bin Laden". And we all know that "intelligence sources" often have a hidden agenda. "

Actually the REAL voice on the tapes is Milli Vanilli.

Excellent dubbing work.


142 posted on 10/20/2004 3:39:49 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: WOSG
... and yet we have these OBL tapes that come out. How do they fit in?

Remember who authenticated the tapes as being real. The politically correct/ Clinton packed C.I.A. The same C.I.A. that knew Saddams WMDs' had been transferred to Syria but told Bush something else in hopes he would hang himself.

I've been saying OBL is dead for over a year now for the same reasons posted on this thread. But, I dont think Bush wanted to reveal this because once he did, the demos would say " Great, war is over. We've caught the perp. Bring the troops home." They dont understand and never will that the War on Terror is much bigger than just OBL.

143 posted on 10/20/2004 3:44:42 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Beckwith
Bush should realize if he doesn't announce it, Kerry may become President>I think if it were so Bush would have told the public!
144 posted on 10/20/2004 3:58:31 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Twinkie

No he would claim credit.The first thing he did was kill Bin Laden


145 posted on 10/20/2004 4:01:14 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: smokescreensaver

I think Kerry as President is far worst.If he's died use it Bush


146 posted on 10/20/2004 4:02:24 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: mariabush

But he's not, Because Kerry as President would put the public in far more danger,wake up RNC!


147 posted on 10/20/2004 4:03:45 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: billorites
Osama bin Laden is alive because we need a bogeyman to personify the War on Terror.

bin Laden may actually be the last man killed in the War on Terror.

-PJ

148 posted on 10/20/2004 4:04:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: MadIvan

Pssst...Hey...Osama...
Muhammad just emailed me & told me that your 72 virgins are waiting for you-right there, where that third rail is...Go for it,baby!


149 posted on 10/20/2004 4:04:58 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Beware,Kerry-For on Nov 2,you will be BUSHwhacked!!!!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Sorry to hear that, but why did you post a picture of Kerry?
LOL


150 posted on 10/20/2004 4:06:55 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Beware,Kerry-For on Nov 2,you will be BUSHwhacked!!!!!)
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To: Beckwith

I believe he died shortly after Tora Bora, where he was wounded.

I disagree...I just saw him behind the counter at the neighborhood 7-11.


151 posted on 10/20/2004 4:08:19 PM PDT by Psycho_Runner (Is Hugh Hefner leader of the Pajama People?)
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To: billorites
I totally agree with this article. I have been stating this for a couple of years on FR.

A PUBLIC appearance by UBL would be the death knell for GW Bush and would be a continuing Public relations nightmare for the GOP. An appearance by UBL would solidify a Kerry victory and be a "RECRUITING COOP" for Al Qaeda like no other.

152 posted on 10/20/2004 4:08:55 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: Wombat101

Re #7.....LOLOL!!!!


153 posted on 10/20/2004 4:09:14 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Beware,Kerry-For on Nov 2,you will be BUSHwhacked!!!!!)
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To: WOSG
but the DoD never announced it because they never wanted to make a martyr out of him, hence it's low key ... and *yet* we have these OBL 'tapes' that comes out. How do they fit in?

See post #99 -- impersonating OBL would be a fantastic opportunity for the US... Then remember who it is that "authenticates" the recent audio tapes...

154 posted on 10/20/2004 4:12:23 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: billorites

I can only think of one reason why OBL, if he's still alive, wouldn't be making any more video tapes to taunt us -- because he doesn't want us to see the result of the plastic surgeries he's had in order to diguise himself as an Eskimo woman to evade capture.


155 posted on 10/20/2004 4:13:56 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Beckwith

I have felt and said this since Tora Bora. Audio tapes don't sway me. It's been two years plus since we last saw a new message. With his history I read this as he's dead and buried so deep in some forgotten cave that even his followers won't find him....and, without a body Bush can't say squat.


156 posted on 10/20/2004 4:15:21 PM PDT by wtc911 (all zee children have mush!)
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To: Psycho_Runner
"I disagree...I just saw him behind the counter at the neighborhood 7-11."

Gee. I thought he ran the dognut shop down the street!

157 posted on 10/20/2004 4:42:18 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

Islamists hate dogs, and their nuts too.


158 posted on 10/20/2004 5:18:05 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: Atomic Vomit
"Islamists hate dogs, and their nuts too."

I call doughnuts 'dognuts':) That way I get the pick of the crop:)

159 posted on 10/20/2004 5:59:49 PM PDT by BobS
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To: WOSG
No one can vouch when the tapes were recorded. Plus the guy has been real quiet for a long time. N one has heard a peep. I bet he is dead. He cannot remain quiet for that long. All he has to do is run a video tape of him holding up a current newspaper, or perhaps have him comment on a big recent event. The silence is deafening. That only means one thing to me.
160 posted on 10/21/2004 8:41:05 AM PDT by Sprite518
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