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POLL: Kerry Keeps Slim One-point Lead Over Bush
Yahoo News ^ | 10-10-2004 | John Whitesides

Posted on 10/10/2004 5:22:54 AM PDT by Optimom

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) held on to a slim one-point lead over President Bush (news - web sites) after Friday's second debate between the White House rivals, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; poll; polls; postdebate; sauce; zogby
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My first post, took long enough that we may have already. Not to worry, the numbers will come up.
1 posted on 10/10/2004 5:22:54 AM PDT by Optimom
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To: Optimom

Zogby polls are unreliable and lean Democratic. In 2002, Zogby predicted that the Democrats would win the Congressional races.


2 posted on 10/10/2004 5:27:52 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: Optimom
The poll of 1,216 likely voters was taken Thursday through Saturday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points. The final day of polling came after the debate but showed little change in the race.

So only one third of the sample was taken after the debate. Any bounce will probably take a few days to develop anyway, and in a tracking poll it takes even longer, since they hold onto the older numbers for a few days.

3 posted on 10/10/2004 5:29:17 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: Optimom
Thanks for posting this. I'm glad to see the poll is mostly from days before the most recent debate.

I hope there will still be a good post-debate bounce for Bush, due to his sharpened message.

4 posted on 10/10/2004 5:30:28 AM PDT by syriacus (Every extra day that Saddam was in power was an extra day in which Iraqi children starved.)
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To: Brandon

=Bush up by 6


5 posted on 10/10/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: Optimom
I'm not sure but is Z-by a....
arab hack
OR
a muslim hack
OR
a muslim arab hack??
6 posted on 10/10/2004 5:33:02 AM PDT by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: cp124

Wonder what the internals are and why this is so diff. than the Rasmussen poll.


7 posted on 10/10/2004 5:33:28 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: adam_az

See post 6...


8 posted on 10/10/2004 5:35:51 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Optimom
WashPost/ABC tracking poll 10/9/04; Bush 50 Kerry46

Rasmussen 10/9/04; Bush 50 Kerry 46

9 posted on 10/10/2004 5:36:35 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Brandon

Did I read correctly that Zogby selects his voters at random? This does not sound like it would create an accurate picture. I think the samples should be broken down by demographics. For example, how do we know he isnt calling far more women than men?

Speaking of the gender gap, the ABC poll that has Bush up by 4 is more encouraging. It shows Kerry ahead by only 5 among women, but losing by 14 with men! Taking that average, it would seem that Bush should be farther ahead. On ABC radio they said the 2 were evenly split with independents. That sounds like good news to me since other polls show Bush lagging a bit with that group.

Another poll yesterday has Kerry leading with Hispanics by only 10. This is a sizable loss for the Dems since '00. So all the news is not rosy, but Mr Bush seems to be doing OK for now.


10 posted on 10/10/2004 5:36:46 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: adam_az

I don't know why they couldn't use the data just after debate, there're nearly 800 likly, it's quite enough


11 posted on 10/10/2004 5:37:04 AM PDT by Cathay
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To: Optimom

And all you have to do is accept that reuters/zogby have even a screed of credibility!


BWWAAAHAAAAAAA!


12 posted on 10/10/2004 5:37:41 AM PDT by federal
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To: antivenom

Give Kerry a 1 point gap so when the dead vote he may pull it off?


13 posted on 10/10/2004 5:37:57 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Why would anyone want a traitor and commie stooge for President?)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Zogby admitted this last summer that he looks at his data and adjusts it as he sees fit. Towards the end of the campaign, he adjusts his data to conform to the winning trend to maintain his credibility.

W up six is about right. And that Ipsos poll is French.

14 posted on 10/10/2004 5:42:12 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs for Bush!)
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To: Optimom
The slight advantage for Kerry was well within the poll's margin of error

Theres a nice spinny stretch for you.

15 posted on 10/10/2004 5:42:42 AM PDT by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: Brandon
What is wrong with Americans!Do they need the terrorists to stick a bomb up their ass before they wise up.Well if Kerry's elected it's a good chance.
16 posted on 10/10/2004 5:48:52 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Brandon

I thought a new swift boat ad was coming out,they better hurry there's not much time left!


17 posted on 10/10/2004 5:49:55 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: evad

"I'm not sure but is Z-by a.... arab hack
OR a muslim hack
OR a muslim arab hack??"

Zogby is a democrat, Christian of lebanese descent.
(like Helen Thomas).


18 posted on 10/10/2004 6:11:24 AM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Optimom

The daily tracking polls:

Rasmussen = + 4 Bush
AP/Washington Post = + 4 Bush


19 posted on 10/10/2004 6:13:58 AM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: edwin hubble
Zogby is a democrat, Christian of lebanese descent. (like Helen Thomas).

arghhh...my eyes, my eyes (visualizing the H T image)

Anyway, I knew he was some kind of hack.

Bye the bye, just for grins, is there any such thing as a Christian Democrat??

20 posted on 10/10/2004 6:18:19 AM PDT by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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