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Did Sandy Berger “Fry” Flight 800 Records?
Mens News Daily ^ | July 22, 2004 | Tom Kovach

Posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:31 AM PDT by johnny7

During the 1980s, renowned radio commentator Paul Harvey said something that I’ve quoted often to my friends. Opining about various wars and upheavals — in the Middle East, Central and South America, Northern Ireland, and Cambodia — Harvey said, “Sometimes you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”

During this election year — while the country is at war with shadowy terrorist networks, both here and abroad — Paul Harvey’s advice seems especially appropriate. Americans have already come up with various combinations of “Berger & Ketchup” to describe the relationship between former Clinton Administration national-security advisor Sandy Berger and presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (who is married to ketchup-fortune heiress Teresa Heinz-Kerry). Adding to that, I will say that Berger’s recently-abdicated title as an “informal advisor” to the Kerry campaign is starting to look a lot like the “unofficial spokesman” on the Wendy’s Hamburgers TV commercials. (Oddly, the Wendy’s theme has shown up in another of my articles about the Flight 800 mystery.)

The recent revelation by Sandy Berger that he removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives, and then “lost” them, has numerous implications during this election season. Berger was the national-security advisor to Bill Clinton, who is the most scandal-laden president in US history. Flight 800 was destroyed in mid-air during the 1996 re-election campaign of Bill Clinton. Another high-level Clinton insider — former White House chief of staff, turned ABC-TV news analyst, George Stephanopoulos — referred to the bombing of Flight 800 on the air. With that remark — and his associated description of being inside the “other situation room” in the White House at the time of the Flight 800 disaster — a direct link was made between Clinton and Flight 800. This link was, of course, overlooked by the “mainstream” news media.

So, what does this link between Bill Clinton and Flight 800 have to do with the current John Kerry presidential campaign? Well, perhaps nothing, except thatJohn Kerry also referred to Flight 800 as a terrorist incident in a televised interview. The problem is that, with the upcoming release of the final report of the “9-11” Commission, the general public will have the opportunity to refresh their memory about the link between Flight 800 and terrorism. Having spent years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, it is now impossible for Kerry to deny that he had access to information about any link between Flight 800 and terrorist acts. Therefore, if such a link is proven, then a line can be drawn between the downing of Flight 800 in 1996 and the “9-11” attacks in 2001. Again, because of his committee experience and his televised interview, Kerry cannot now distance himself from his comments about “9-11”. Follow along: if a link is made in the public’s mind between terrorism, Flight 800, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and “9-11”, then what is the logical result? Surely, donations to the Democratic Party and to the Kerry campaign would dry up rapidly. Therefore, it is imperative to the Kerry campaign to destroy evidence of such a link. Enter: Sandy Berger. He is a person that had intimate knowledge of high-level decisions about terrorism, and access to the records of those decisions. Now, it is public knowledge that Berger has “lost” some of those documents. Were the “lost” documents related to Flight 800? The only person that knows hasn’t talked.

What is known is that there are numerous pieces of evidence that point to the involvement of a missile in the TWA Flight 800 disaster. What is known is that President Clinton issued an executive order that was targeted to silence the Navy SEALs that were on scene at the Flight 800 debris field in the Atlantic Ocean. What is known is that the FBI was very embarrassed when news of Bureau interest in missile technology became public. (Read the portion about the Teledyne fax to Dee Muma.) What is known is that the Navy SEALs are following the Flight 800 story. What is known is that there were other terrorist plots on US soil between 1996 and 2001. What is known is that the Clinton Administration ignored warnings about Operation Bojinka, and thus paved the way for the “9-11” attacks. What is known is that Clinton wanted to cover his tracks about the probable Bojinka—“9-11” link. What is known is that Berger is a close ally of both Clinton and Kerry. What is known is that Berger removed highly-classified documents from the National Archives. What is known is that those documents were related to information examined by the 9-11 Commission about the extent of terrorist operations in America prior to 11 September 2001. (operations that apparently continue today) What is known is that Bill Clinton and his ilk will do anything to gain and retain political power. And, just recently, it became known that Operation Iraqi Freedom had more justification than Kerry has admitted.

As this article is being written, a Federal appeals court is in session in Massachusetts. The topic is the secrecy over autopsy reports of the Flight 800 crash victims. As I reported last week, independent researcher and electrical engineer Graeme Sephton — vice-president of FIRO, and founding president of FOIAC — is winning so far in his lawsuit against the FBI. The suit is trying to force the Bureau to release autopsy reports, which allegedly contain proof of missile shrapnel in the bodies of Flight 800 victims. If the lawsuit is successful, then the official Clinton Administration story about Flight 800 will be blown to bits. The political explosion, however, will not only affect the elusive “Clinton legacy”. The fireball would also burn up the chances of John Kerry to become elected as President of the United States. And, with that would come the destruction of any potential pardons of criminal charges for culpability in a Flight 800 cover-up. And, the shrapnel from this explosion would also shred the hopes of other Democratic Party candidates, especially in Massachusetts. The timing of Berger’s revelation that he “lost” valuable documents — coming in between last week’s article about the lawsuit, and today’s court hearing — seems quite suspicious. And, the fact that the hearing is being held in Kerry’s home state certainly adds fuel to the speculation — especially considering that a Fox-TV news item mentioned the lawsuit on the Flight 800 anniversary last Saturday. It appears to me that Berger’s revelations about illegal activity are designed to take heat off Kerry, in the same way that Janet Reno’s raid on the compound outside Waco seemed timed to take media attention away from the indictment of Hillary Clinton.

Because of my own experience in the Air Force, I know that it might never be possible to determine which documents disappeared at the hands of Sandy Berger. When documents reach a certain level of classification, even the table of contents listing the documents is classified. Therefore, only people with that level of clearance, and a specific “need to know”, may be granted access to even the table of contents. Most members of the public do not realize that there are actually several layers of classification above Top Secret. If the Clinton White House did, in fact, engage in a cover-up of the shoot-down of Flight 800, then the most likely “classification authority” would have been Sandy Berger. He would have been under great incentive to hide the proof under the highest classification possible. Thus, even proof that such documents ever existed would be difficult to access.

Were the missing documents shredded, and/or burned? If so, then did Berger “fry” any records of the truth about the downing of Flight 800? (I had to make a joke about it, because, “Sometimes, you have to laugh, just to keep from crying.”)


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: sandyberger; twa800
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The Berger 'faux pax' has already been spun as a Bush dirty tactic by the Dems and the BS media. His deliberate covert act is being swept aside as a 'sloppy mistake'. Whether this guy is is just blowing smoke or not... we cannot let them deep six Bergers actions!
1 posted on 07/22/2004 4:17:32 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7
The other spin is "they have other copies". But Berger was taking many copies of the same docs.

THAT to me is the most damning of his actions.

2 posted on 07/22/2004 4:19:25 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: johnny7

We need to see the missing docs, the millenium memo, etc. I want to know what was in them.


3 posted on 07/22/2004 4:19:44 AM PDT by Huck (I love the USA!)
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To: johnny7
Gordon Liddy was on Scarborough last night. He says there are people serving time for making legitimate mistakes with classified documents. Simply leaving documents sitting out in the open inside the national archive is enough to send someone to prison.

The democrats whole defense of Berger seems to be that it was a mistake or an accident. Thats pretty pathetic in itself.
4 posted on 07/22/2004 4:25:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: cripplecreek

"Wardrobe Malfunction"


5 posted on 07/22/2004 4:27:12 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: johnny7

bttt


6 posted on 07/22/2004 4:27:42 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: cripplecreek
The democrats whole defense of Berger seems to be that it was a mistake or an accident. Thats pretty pathetic in itself.

Another,....Los Clintonos Lab.....policy.....?

/sarcasm

7 posted on 07/22/2004 4:30:01 AM PDT by maestro
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To: cripplecreek
The democrats whole defense of Berger seems to be that it was a mistake or an accident. Thats pretty pathetic in itself.

More than pathetic... if we are to take their word for it, a bumbling idiot ran national security for 8 years. And if they are to deny that he is a fool then why exactly did he do it? The Democrats are boxed in. How stupid do they think the public is? Answer: Very very stupid. After all, oral sex isn't sex and perjury about an affair isn't a lie... and the Senate acquitted him?

8 posted on 07/22/2004 4:31:37 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: johnny7

Berger is a traitor, no matter what party he belongs to. He planned this and executed it and he needs jail time, lots of it.


9 posted on 07/22/2004 4:34:35 AM PDT by Dustbunny
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To: johnny7

I personally heard Kerry say that TWA 800 was a terrorist attack.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 4:36:13 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: Semper Paratus

Supposedly Berg-ler took ALL the copies of a particular report.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 4:36:53 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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One thing people need to remember-the investigation of TWA 800 was immediately taken over by the FBI. The NTSB, who investigates 100% of civilian air accidents/incidents, was left in the dark and kept attatched to the investigation for show. Clinton's boy, Jim Kallstrom was the cover-up man.
12 posted on 07/22/2004 4:40:32 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: OldFriend
Supposedly Berg-ler took ALL the copies of a particular report.

What shocks me more than anything: we're dealing with PAPER apparently! Why aren't these documents digitized? .PDF format? Why are there no backups at a secure facility in Colorado?

It appears that if Sandy Berger "got to" every copy at the National Archive, then (perhaps) some of this information could be lost forever! HELLLLLOOOOOO! It's the 21st Century! It just shouldn't be possible.

13 posted on 07/22/2004 4:43:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: johnny7; All
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14 posted on 07/22/2004 4:47:40 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: johnny7

We're also now hearing that the documents discussed airport perimeter security....


15 posted on 07/22/2004 4:49:07 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: johnny7

Our leaders refusal to prosecute the Clintons and their minons for anything meaningfull is in itself ridiculous....

No heads will roll over this either...the trail of bodies from Iran Contra Mena are nothing to our leaders...

Ok City, TWA flight 800, 09-11....some of those responsible are dead, others never got caught and went home to make more terror...too others have been set free....those who left the door open for them are still in power or waiting in the wings for more power...

Anyone who will claim otherwise...is simply viewed as a tin foil head...it will all go away...wait for the 'we the people' to simply 'foh ghetta boud it'...short attention spans coupled with a need for entertainment...plus a ton of disinformation fade many an evil deed into obscurity..

This too shall pass.....flushed down the memory hole

imo


16 posted on 07/22/2004 4:49:35 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You are making an assumption that may or may not be true as to whether all documents are digitized and stored elsewhere.


17 posted on 07/22/2004 4:50:18 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: johnny7
Guess what date TWA800 was shot down by a missile in front of hundreds of eye-witnesses?

And guess what date is THE national day of Iraq, a holiday, celebrating Saddam's Baath party coup?

Both were July 17.

July 17th was also recently celebrated by Saddam holdouts in Iraq with massive car bomb attacks.

Read on:

"The White House is absolutely panicked that TWA Flight 800 might have been downed by a missile, because there is no defense; even Air Force One is vulnerable," observes Keating, the author of "The Final Jihad", a novel about international terrorism that employs predictive analysis.

"My sources within the intelligence community tell me government authorities may call it a bomb when indeed they know it was a missile that destroyed Flight 800."

Keating cites media sources which reported that more than 100 eyewitnesses interviewed separately told virtually the same story -- a bright plume of flame ascending rapidly from the surface which impacted an airplane.

18 posted on 07/22/2004 4:51:25 AM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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To: Homer1
At this point I believe no 'rumors' as to what was purloined.

A massive cover up is being perpetrated by the left and their cohorts in the media.

Assume the worst because the risk to Berger was far too great for this to be something simple.

19 posted on 07/22/2004 4:51:43 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: cripplecreek

How is it that a person can use their cell phone while looking over top secret documents? What are the procedures regarding top secret docs?


20 posted on 07/22/2004 4:53:22 AM PDT by GBA
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