are we there yet?
Posted on 07/21/2004 9:25:10 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis
Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m.
What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.
After Berger's previous visit, in September, Archives officials believed documents were missing. This time, they specially coded the papers to more easily tell whether some went missing, said government officials and legal sources familiar with the case.
The notion of one of Washington's most respected foreign policy figures being subjected to treatment that had at least a faint odor of a sting operation is a strange one. But the peculiarities -- and conflicting versions of events and possible motives -- were just then beginning in a case that this week bucked Berger out of an esteemed position as a leader of the Democratic government-in-waiting that had assembled around presidential nominee John F. Kerry.
As his attorneys tell it, Berger had no idea in October that documents were missing from the Archives, or that archivists suspected him in the disappearance. It was not until two days later, on Saturday, Oct. 4, that he was contacted by Archives employees who said that they were concerned about missing files, from his September and October visits. This call -- in Berger's version of the chronology, which is disputed in essential respects by a government official with knowledge of the investigation -- was made with a tone of concern, but not accusation.
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Exactly. Either you do your own digging in the archives (ooouuuch, dusty!) or you ask someone what documents are relevant - and who better to ask than someone like Berger (/voice dripping of sarcasm).
It wasn't the Commission who found the Gorelick memo - despite (or some of us would shout BECASUSE OF) Ms Gorelick sitting on the Committee.
For all you know, it was a sting.
If Clinton knew about this and didn't tell Kerry that his foreign policy advisor what does that say??????? They perceived Kerry as a dope and knew he wasn't showing up in Washington and would have no idea what was going on. This shows everyone what a good judgment of character Kerry and his staff use.
are we there yet?
No Ashcroft was never SHOWN the millennium report. But he just might have got wind of it helped by Berger's doings in the Archives.
That's a pantload, for sure
He should have gone to a disco after that mission.
This stuff is just the stuff we KNOW about. Immagine what goes on that we DONT know about.
I was under the impression that all of Clinton's documents were in Little Rock.
Exactly, litte comments and notes that might have been seen as just typical Clinton b.s. in a non 9/11 world might seem unforgivably arrogant in our actual post-9/11 world. Just like how Clinton tried desperately to scrub the info about the Long Island Association Speech. But evenmoreso, is that the content of these drafts might have proved beyond any doubt that their post-9/11 rhetoric about what happened in the Clinton administration does not match the public record and that they have compounded their lie with more lies. Well, of course they did - we all know that. HA!
America's security really suffers when these people are trying to write history that revolves just around them. They still to this day are impeding our reaction to 9/11 by altering the truth to fit their egotistic desires - I almost hope they have a more diabolical excuse, because it's so pathetic.
I would be far more than "disappointed" - - I would be disgusted to the point of walking away.
This lying scumbag thief Berger needs to go to jail. Real jail. Nothing less will do.
Also the timeline:
October the employees do the sting after detecting missing docs in September. The October visit indeed results in missing docs.
Berger hires Breuer shortly after that (still October) and "finds" notes he had started taking in July. That's why Breuer came out with his bizarre "this is old news, it's a year old" spin today.
FBI comes on the case in January. That's when Joe Lockhart (Lord spare us, but evidently we'll be treated to hearing him during this investigation) was hired, too.
With any luck he'll be in prison for the next eight years.
It's the National Archives in D.C.; it's a secured room especially for the 9-11 Commission; it's a big glass building, so I am assuming it's the one outside D.C. (Bethesda?)
I'm confused about what files of Clinton's are in D.C. and what's in Little Rock; certainly they wouldn't have shipped documents BACK to D.C.
A guy on MSNBC right now is saying that since they were CODE WORD, they would be categorized as national security; maybe that's why they're still in D.C.?
Yes, scary isn't it?
That's why I'm so indebted to FR. Only place to get ones news. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING about this story in any of the Swedish newspapers or radio or TV news, so far.
As important and potentially damning as this story is to the Clintonistas, I will almost guarantee that the Dems will close ranks on this, and the story will sputter out like the end of one of Billy Jeff's cigardildos.
The media will cover for Berger the Burglar, and the handwritten notes on the Millenium Memo will go the way of Hillary's Rose Law firm billing records.
No one cares except those who care about the future of our Republic. This effectively precludes all Democrats and their whorehounds in the media....
Man alive, these guys and gals had to have REAL non-gender-specific reproductive organs of brass to set this up. Can you imagine the possible damage to career, not to mention the risk of arkancide, that these people are taking?
These people are real heroes, in my book. I doubt any of them are even conservative - but in my mind, they are still patriots. Their job was to protect those documents, and they did their job. But archivists against the most powerful figures in politics? They need protection, and support for what may lie ahead for them...
Clinton didn't need to be tipped off it may of been one of the five who had written notes on the side. When they wrote down their ideas they had no idea about 9/11 and that in time all of this would be looked at so when a commission is investigating they realize that they have to cover themselves.
Maybe they had no reason or excuse to go into the archives but knew Berger would have a perfect reason for being in there. The thing that needs to be known is who were the five????
Precisely. Remember the side margin notes he had about the fund raisers?
No matter what, we are STILL talking "legacy" here. He won't EVER give up on that.
What puzzles me is why Berger would even consider doing this; what could be worth this?
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