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Archives Staff Was Suspicious of Berger
Washington Post ^ | July 22, 2004 | John F. Harris and Susan Schmidt

Posted on 07/21/2004 9:25:10 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m.

What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.

After Berger's previous visit, in September, Archives officials believed documents were missing. This time, they specially coded the papers to more easily tell whether some went missing, said government officials and legal sources familiar with the case.

The notion of one of Washington's most respected foreign policy figures being subjected to treatment that had at least a faint odor of a sting operation is a strange one. But the peculiarities -- and conflicting versions of events and possible motives -- were just then beginning in a case that this week bucked Berger out of an esteemed position as a leader of the Democratic government-in-waiting that had assembled around presidential nominee John F. Kerry.

As his attorneys tell it, Berger had no idea in October that documents were missing from the Archives, or that archivists suspected him in the disappearance. It was not until two days later, on Saturday, Oct. 4, that he was contacted by Archives employees who said that they were concerned about missing files, from his September and October visits. This call -- in Berger's version of the chronology, which is disputed in essential respects by a government official with knowledge of the investigation -- was made with a tone of concern, but not accusation.

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To: Dolphy; kcvl; Mo1; burrian; cyncooper

Hey, maybe we can make burrian watch Nightline from now on........LOL.


161 posted on 07/21/2004 10:36:37 PM PDT by Howlin (Free the 2000 Millenium Report!!!!!)
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To: Howlin

162 posted on 07/21/2004 10:36:56 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (Kerry Lied)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the info. I should have remembered that it was in April.

Interesting isn't it that the Commission used the witnesses to dig up the material they were going to use in their investigation!

So, Berger had half a year to change the "history" of the millennium threat and other things.

The thing that should worry the Dems is that it seems that Ashcroft has done his homework. I wonder how many of the copies he has read. Remember that after the first Berger "visits" the Archive started to copy the files. In other words Berger could have led the WH to the important documents.


163 posted on 07/21/2004 10:36:59 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Mo1

Someone tells Berger to go get their copy of the millennium report because it has their notes on it or someones notes could be incriminating for the Clinton Adm. Berger does but gets the wrong copies, so he has to go back and get the rest. I bet by the second time he came to the archives the staffers made copies of everything he wanted to look at before they gave him the copies with original handwritten notes on it.


164 posted on 07/21/2004 10:37:26 PM PDT by seahawk
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To: Remember_Salamis
Did Kerry know? Check out the video interview with Brokaw at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619

Brokaw asks Kerry if he knew about the investigation of Berger, and twice Kerry says he had no clue. Did you know? No clue. Berger didn't tell you? No clue.

It must be very hard for Kerry to proclaim himself clueless on anything. Makes you wonder if the alternative was just too horrible and too risky.

I think he knew and he benefitted from Berger's paper shuffling. Otherwise there'd be no need to distance himself so thoroughly, to claim ignorance of the sort of thing he couldn't possibly have been ignorant about.

165 posted on 07/21/2004 10:37:42 PM PDT by Graymatter (Kerry medical records are none of our business---and his veep pick is, who???)
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To: ScaniaBoy

The thing is, remember Berger in his defense said "The commission saw every report they asked for."

How do they know what to ask for?


166 posted on 07/21/2004 10:38:32 PM PDT by Howlin (Free the 2000 Millenium Report!!!!!)
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To: Palladin
...They need to put hidden cameras in all National Archive reading rooms, after this debacle. ...

Copy all the documents in advance. See which ones get stolen.
167 posted on 07/21/2004 10:39:01 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Oh, Ashcroft couldn't have been plainer at the 9-11 hearings that he was NEVER shown that 2000 Millenium report.


168 posted on 07/21/2004 10:39:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Free the 2000 Millenium Report!!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Check out this item from the nonpartisan Capital Research Center Foundation Watch of March, 2004.

In addition to MoveOn.org and America Coming Together (ACT), George Soros’ third major anti-Bush gift went to set up the Center for American Progress (CAP). ( snip ) Podesta has, at times, been defensive about CAP’s financial links to Soros, whose advocacy of drug legalization is especially controversial. In response to reporters’ questions, Podesta has said, “We welcome his funds and he doesn’t influence in any way our agenda.” Pressed about Soros’ views on drugs, Podesta responded, “I don’t know the full extent of his activities around the world. But much of what he’s done is to promote democracy.”

CAP’s first formal event on October 28, 2003 was a Washington, DC conference co-sponsored with the Century Foundation, headed by Leone. The two-day conference, “New American Strategies for Security and Peace,” featured Senator Hillary Clinton, presidential candidate Wesley Clark, former Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, American Prospect editor Robert Kuttner and former U.S. Ambassador and Bush foe Joseph Wilson. The conference highlight was a speech critical of the Iraq war by Nebraska Republican Senator Chuck Hagel.

169 posted on 07/21/2004 10:39:35 PM PDT by dano1
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To: texasbluebell

Sandy Berger, advisor to: Wesley Clark, Howard Dean, John Edwards, and Joe Lieberman.

Richard Holbrooke, advisor to Wesley Clark, John Edwards and Dick Gephardt.

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DES MOINES, IOWA, Dec. 15

John Edwards...

Consultants on the speech titled "Strategy of Prevention, Not Preemption" included Sandy Berger, former National Security Advisor; Ashton Carter, Harvard Professor and former Assistant Secretary of Defense; Joseph Cirincione, Director of non-Proliferation Project at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; and Michael Levi of the Brookings Institution.

The meat of the speech: Edwards would establish a new Global Nuclear Compact to reinforce the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as well as propose a new United Nations Security Council resolution to confront other countries threatening to spread weapons to other parts of the world.


170 posted on 07/21/2004 10:39:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Remember_Salamis
A Grand Jury in place, an investigation that has been ongoing this long and the fact that Berger has yet to be officially questioned indicate the investigation of a conspiracy.

With all of the expanded powers put in place by the Patriot Act the FBI must have put taps on Berger's phones, computers, etc.

171 posted on 07/21/2004 10:39:57 PM PDT by NCnodeLOGICBOMB (Noise is a byproduct of inefficiency)
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To: Remember_Salamis

....A government official with knowledge of the investigation said Archives employees took action promptly after noticing a missing document in September. This official said an Archives employee called former White House deputy counsel Bruce Lindsey, who is former president Bill Clinton's liaison to the National Archives. The Archives employee said documents were missing and would have to be returned....

I wonder what the written procedure is for employees when documents are found to be missing, I doubt it involves contacting the person and asking for them back...Would they do the same for you me or any Republican?


172 posted on 07/21/2004 10:40:00 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: burrian; Howlin
it just made me so mad I had to register and tell y'all.

Welcome to FR .. the more the merry

Thanks for the update on Clarke .. with all the libs on tv/media .. we need eyes every where to keep up

Howlin .. I'll second the night shift *l*

173 posted on 07/21/2004 10:40:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Howlin; burrian
Hey, maybe we can make burrian watch Nightline from now on........LOL.

That's what happens when your first post is good, you get assigned a horrible but necessary job :)

174 posted on 07/21/2004 10:41:07 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: lunatic12

Bill and Sandy cut a deal? Sandy purges the incriminating infor and, if he is caught, Bill "takes care of him"? Why would Berger agree to such a risky proposal? Why would he trust Clinton? Berger could just as easily end up at room temperature (he still may). This is a strange story. And I agree -- bigger than Watergate by far.


175 posted on 07/21/2004 10:41:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: seahawk
Someone tells Berger to go get their copy of the millennium report because it has their notes on it or someones notes could be incriminating for the Clinton Adm

Very possible .. but who tipped Clinton off to send Berger in there??

They otherwise they would have checked into those documents earlier then last Sept/Oct

176 posted on 07/21/2004 10:42:49 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: dano1

Wow....the whole lot of them!


177 posted on 07/21/2004 10:42:55 PM PDT by Howlin (Free the 2000 Millenium Report!!!!!)
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To: rolling_stone

"....A government official with knowledge of the investigation said Archives employees took action promptly after noticing a missing document in September. This official said an Archives employee called former White House deputy counsel Bruce Lindsey, who is former president Bill Clinton's liaison to the National Archives. The Archives employee said documents were missing and would have to be returned.... "


"IF" this is true then Bruce Lindsey having knowledge of the taking would seem to be implicated as well as anyone else who knew about taking the documents.


178 posted on 07/21/2004 10:43:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
what does Clinton have on Berger that would cause him to jeopardize his freedom and his reputation by pulling such a stunt?
Lucianne had a note that prior to his NSA role he was trade liaison with the Chinese or something - at the time their rocketry suddenly improved from barely able to launch to, within a very short time,the ability to target the US, helped by big Dem contributors like Loral...
179 posted on 07/21/2004 10:43:35 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: lunatic12

Can anyone check and see what was in the memo-gate memo. If I remember correctly the dems wanted to use info from the commission to trash Bush. Is it just me, or does it seem that they are putting the plan into action despite the discovery of the memo? And why did the story on the content of the memo never go anywhere? Only the story of the evil Republicans that stole it.


180 posted on 07/21/2004 10:43:44 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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