L.A.'s name too divine? 'Angels' reference may mean trouble

Daily News ^ | 6/12/04 | Troy Anderson

[Lazamataz]

These people are all named after religious figures; therefore, we need to change each name so any religious reference, regardless of how small, is removed.

And what about religions in general? Can anyone deny we live in a nation that has a government? Isn't there a clear deliniation, that religion cannot be included in government? We have to boot religion out of our nation because we have a government in it.

[rod1]

The ACLU guy says he doesn't expect anyone to challenge it-
You have got to be kidding.
All it takes is one with ACLU help.

This was obvious from the moment the cross was removed. Wonder what it will cost to vchange a LA's name and if the people of CA can sue the orginaly name-suit plaintive for reimbursement of tax dollars. Noit trivial poursue the name of the a several million person city.

[jocon307]

Thanks for your informative reply. Things really went to heck in the 60s all over didn't they? Maybe later generations will be able to correct some of the egregious errors.

[jmstein7]

This is why we can't let Kerry win... we can't handle any more liberal, lawless judges.

[bootless]

For my part, I organized a stage reading of "Harrison Bergeron."

Excellent!

Needless to say, they didn't invited me back the next year.

Color me surprised...

[boris]

"The Town of Our Lady the Queen of Angels of the Little Portion"

In my recollection, there is no "portion" mentioned in the formal name of Los Angeles:

"El Pueblo de nuestro Señora, la ciudad del la Reina de Los Angeles", is, I belive, the formal name in español.

[atomic conspiracy]

"The logic of the ACLU's reasoning would suggest that Santa Monica should be renamed Monica"

That sucks.

[ServesURight]

Los Deviles?

[boris]

Sorry, which I meant to add translates to:

The town of Our Lady, the city of the Queen of the Angels".

--Boris

[sword_of_vengeance]

It's Orwellian.

[Viking2002]

I think that evenually, they're going to bully the wrong jurisdiction. So far, they've been cherry-picking their fights. All it will take is just for one small town - somewhere - to say to the ACLU and the associated activist judges, "Do the letters F.O. mean anything to ya?", and it'll be a different ballgame. I think the pendulum will swing back with such force that it knocks them back on their secular keisters for a long time. One single case of open defiance by a community could tie the issue up in court for years.

[lonevoice]

I recall a post on FR a few weeks ago where someone said there was already a case being filed in Las Cruces, NM and the ACLU was considering its "merits". Anybody else heard this, or was it a rumor?

[kdot]

I didn't see this posted anywhere (sorry if I missed it). Here is more information on the seal.

[Bernard Marx]

How are we going to stop these Taliban like lefties? Do you think it would help if no democrat ever got elected to office anywhere, ever again?

That would help a lot. Unfortunately it won't happen. A good beginning would be to elect conservatives to the L.A. Board of Supervisors. But that probably won't happen either because each one represents a small special interest group and nearly all of them are liberal. No conservative can be elected in their districts.

[goldstategop]

The ACLU gets worked up about Christianity. If Islam were the state religion, you wouldn't hear a peep out of them. They'd be fatwahed before you could say separation of mosque and state.

[Tanstaafl]

And what of Sacramento, CA - named to remind us of the sacraments. And then there is the word bibliography – an outright reminder of the bible in and of itself. These references must be expunged from the vernacular! (//sarcasm off)

Seems as though there are many small-minded people with a great deal of time on their hands.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

But not Santa Nella (there is no such saint)... the name is a corruption of the Spanish word for "Sentinel."

Seriously, this is insane. What the **** is happening??!!

[Cronos]

Let the Mexicans take over California -- they'll keep the cities named after the saints.

[Military family member]

Los Diablos

[antaresequity]

First Ammendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Tenth Ammendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Nowhere in the United States Constitution is there a single sentence, phrase or word that calls for a separation of church and state. The notion of 'seperation of church and state' is a figment of someones imagination. I am so sick of this crap.

The first amendment only states that the CONGRESS shall not establish, nor prohibit religion.

For crying out loud...No where is it written or implied that the Federal Government shall have the right to interfere with the individual states to govern themselves beyond what is explicitly delineated within the Constitution.

Could someone explain to me how or why this is even a Federal issue? If an individual State is not prohibited by its own constitution, and decides to establish a state religion...How or why does the Federal government have anything to say about this?