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American dead butchered 'like sheep'(Time for Fallujah to be taken off the map)
telegraph.com ^ | 4/1/04 (GMT) | By Jack Fairweather

Posted on 03/31/2004 5:41:57 PM PST by dinok

Jubilant crowds dragged the burnt and mutilated bodies of four Americans through the streets of Fallujah yesterday amid some of the most horrific scenes witnessed since the invasion of Iraq.

The four were driving along the main road when they were caught in a vicious crossfire from Iraqis wearing headscarves. The spot is a favourite site for attacks in the pro-Saddam Hussein town.

Yesterday, the corpses were dismembered before parts were hung from a green iron bridge over the Euphrates river, witnesses said. Other remains were hung from an electricity pole. People chanted: "We sacrifice our blood and souls for Islam."

One resident, Abdul Aziz Mohammed, said: "The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep."

Beneath the bodies, a man held a printed sign with a skull and crossbones and the phrase: "Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans."

"I saw the people pull one of the dead bodies out of the car and pour [fuel oil] over it. Then they set the body ablaze," said Omar Khalil, an off-duty Iraqi police officer. "The people were praising God for their good fortune in killing Americans." The body was then dragged down the road by the feet.

Neither American soldiers nor Iraqi police were seen in the area after the attack, although an American aircraft flew low over the scene, scattering the crowd.

Hours after the attack hundreds still danced around the burning wreck of a Mitsubishi Pajero and Toyota Landcruiser chanting: "Death, death to the Americans." Some were said to be preparing an ambush for American forces if they returned to recover the corpses.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; madpoet; muslims; religionofpieces; terror
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
I believe we need to make a highly visible, very strong statement for all the world to see - quickly.

Chop off the genitals, feet, and hands of charred American corpses with shovels and then cheer?

I'm just about losing it...if bush doesn't do something Right F'ing now, both he

Never mind.
161 posted on 03/31/2004 8:17:07 PM PST by tubavil
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To: ASA Vet
Always thought of myself as being personally non-violent but in thinking of our children's future, shoot, their lives - I agree whole-heartedly with you. It's a if not them, it's us scenario.

Much of the world already hates us for one imagined reason or another - what's to lose?

And while we're at it, let's take a red marker and review the list of nations we give aid to.

162 posted on 03/31/2004 8:18:13 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.")
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To: BulletBobCo
WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE?!

More than this, apparently. It's a Religion of Peace according to Our Rulers.

You know - those guys who steal our money and try to run our lives? They know everything.

163 posted on 03/31/2004 8:21:44 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never let your life be directed by people who could only get government jobs.)
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To: section9
I like it. I can see it now.

Terrorist dumbass 1: "Khalid, what is that bright glowing dot on your fore head?"

Terrorist dumbass 2:"What bright glowing..." Kafoom!

Terrorist dumbass 1:"I never knew Khalid had so much in his head!"
164 posted on 03/31/2004 8:25:16 PM PST by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: Light Speed
> Syria and Egypt..both reluctant to tangle with tiny Israel.

That time around, Israel was fighting an army or two, not an irregular force and a civilian population which in large part supports it.
165 posted on 03/31/2004 8:32:48 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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To: ASA Vet
I'm not angry at all, I'm cold and calculating.

So was Saddam when he gassed the Kurds, and Hitler when he ordered the mass murder of Jews. What makes you any better?

There is a goal to achieve, and anger doesn't enable rational steps toward achieving that goal.

Advocating the incineration of millions of people is not rational, nor does it actually achieve any goal other than satisfying your desire for blood.

I wasn't indiscriminate.

Sure you were. You want to incinerate every man, woman, and child in several large cities, instead of discriminating between those who are actually our enemies, and those who are not.

I specified several capitals in the ME.

Simply because they *are* in the Middle East, and you're bigoted enough to think that's good enough reason for them to die.

Indiscriminate would be saturation nuclear bombing of non-enemy areas.

Like, say, "several capitals in the ME" when vast numbers of their inhabitants have never acted against us.

Elimination of those intent on killing you is not murder.

Feel free to eliminate those who are actually intent on killing us. But as soon as you decide to nuke entire cities on the "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" plan, it's mass murder of the countless people in those cities who are *not* "intent on killing us". Learn the difference.

I have no problem with being the "bigger monster" that is in fact the point of the lesson delivered.

Then you have already made your point loud and clear. The only thing I'm not clear on is why you seem so proud of it.

It's never a good idea to wake up the boogieman, or monster.

So roll over and go back to sleep, people more moral than yourself are already in charge.

As far as joining you, no thanks, I choice to not be a willing victim.

Your unfounded presumption that I am or would in any way be "a willing victim" is just as knee-jerk simplistic as your idea of how to "solve" the problem of violent anti-Americanism by proving to everyone that we're the most immoral and dangerous nation on the planet.

I'm no "willing victim" -- retaliation and elimination is certainly called for in response to both 9/11 and the recent atrocity in Fallujah. It's just that I think we should be more rational (and moral) in how we do it than just "HULK SMASH!", or engaging in worst atrocities than those we seek to settle accounts with.

166 posted on 03/31/2004 8:47:36 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: BadAndy
Yep."moderate" and "muslim" is a lie.

"Religion of Peace" is a lie.




167 posted on 03/31/2004 9:23:31 PM PST by Stopislamnow (There are no moderate muslims. They all want you converted, enslaved, or dead.)
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To: dinok
The enemy has been emboldened by the 911 commission just as I feared they would be. That is my opinion anyway.
168 posted on 03/31/2004 9:26:29 PM PST by ladyinred (Weakness Invites War. Peace through Strength (Margaret Thatcher))
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To: dinok
"We sacrifice our blood and souls to Islam."

Well, what are we waiting for? We aim to please. Send them all to Hell and let Allah sort them out. When the rubble stops bouncing, sow the site with radioactive salts and pig intestines so there'll be a curse on it for 100 generations. Then parachute Saddam and his French lawyer into the heart of it and let them stay there for a nice, long consultation.
169 posted on 03/31/2004 9:32:35 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I could never vote for a guy with a chin like that.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
The Palestinians birth rate is a sobering point that eventually..if things do not settle down..there will be a catastrophe.

Israel is blamed for the chaos of the Palestinian peoples..
yet a quick glance at the money page shows the gangsters robbing their own to the tune of millions..so that they are indeed allways angry and frustrated..as the environs continue to resemble a civic dump.

Hatred uncontrolled usually leads to an act of violence.
In the case of the Palestinians..its a national hatred.
Money will not satisfy...neither will land.
They want all....
that desire will see them to the precipice edge.

170 posted on 03/31/2004 9:35:35 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: section9
Whoo Boy, a fine study in appropriate response scenario. Damn it, the bad news is we are such fine people that this beutiful revenge will be just a sweet fantasy. The good news is..well there won't be any good news....
171 posted on 03/31/2004 9:39:25 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Just a country boy with an agenda :)
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To: Ichneumon
Okay touchy feely, name one just one Muslim leader you have seen today howl in protest over this atrocity. Hell come to think of it name one cheese eating surrender monkey that has condemned the deed. Name all of the fine humanitarian nations in the Middle East that have come to the aid of the United States to stop the killing in Iraq during or after Saddam. No PC here, the facts are clear this part of the world is evil and dangerous.
172 posted on 03/31/2004 9:46:37 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Just a country boy with an agenda :)
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To: ASA Vet
You still make me smile with you map magic....I almost feel as if NK is not there...
173 posted on 03/31/2004 10:01:54 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: section9
A most cunning plan...brilliant! I really hope that it will take place and shown as much as this story has. Send the message to the MILLIONS of anti-USA WORLD WIDE. I'm going to ping the pentagon on this plan...
174 posted on 03/31/2004 10:08:19 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: SAR_dude
most of the residents of Fallujah went into their homes in shame as this was going on...

Unfortunately, this is generally the maximum level of protest from muslims when they disagree with the actions of their religious brethren.

175 posted on 03/31/2004 10:15:58 PM PST by squidly (I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosity he excites among his opponents)
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To: Light Speed
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

-- William Shakespeare

176 posted on 03/31/2004 10:21:46 PM PST by Mel Gibson (Suffer from Allergies, Asthma or Adversely Affected by Foul Air ? See "About Me")
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To: eastforker
Er...in 1943, the Russians weren't in Berlin. And when they came to Berlin in 1945, they mainly looted the town and raped about 100,000 German women, girls and elderly alike.

Surely you're not suggesting it would be acceptable for US soldiers to turn into mass rapists ?
177 posted on 03/31/2004 11:12:21 PM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Stopislamnow
"The religion of peace" in action:


178 posted on 03/31/2004 11:18:54 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Okay touchy feely,

Boy, have *you* got the wrong guy... Are you sure you actually understood my posts?

name one just one Muslim leader you have seen today howl in protest over this atrocity. Hell come to think of it name one cheese eating surrender monkey that has condemned the deed. Name all of the fine humanitarian nations in the Middle East that have come to the aid of the United States to stop the killing in Iraq during or after Saddam.

Okay, I'll bite -- exactly what does any of that have to do with the points I made?

No PC here,

None here either, son.

the facts are clear this part of the world is evil and dangerous.

It is certainly dangerous and there is indeed much evil there. That still doesn't justify nuking several million people out of existence (including countless Christians, remember) just because they were born in that region, in what would be by far the biggest act of mass murder in history, if that was what you were attempting to disjointedly argue.

Maybe you're a big fan of genocide, but I'm not.

179 posted on 04/01/2004 1:12:29 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: squidly
[most of the residents of Fallujah went into their homes in shame as this was going on...]

Unfortunately, this is generally the maximum level of protest from muslims when they disagree with the actions of their religious brethren.

...lest they be the next ones killed in the streets and hung up on the bridge...

In that part of the world, you quickly learn not to speak out too loudly (if at all) against the thugs, or else you quickly become the next person on their lynching list.

From http://www.glennbeck.com/news/04252002.shtml:


Hooded Palestinian gunmen lift the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel


Palestinians gather around a suspected collaborator who was shot dead by Palestinian gunmen in the West Bank city of Ramallah April 22, 2002. Israeli and Palestinian negotiators met to try to end a three-week-old standoff at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity. Picture taken April 22, 2002. REUTERS/Henrik Flygare


In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN)


In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator rolls over as he bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN)


A Palestinian boy stands by as a man washes blood off the steps where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot in Ramallah, West Bank, Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Palestinian Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)


A Palestinian man washes away blood off the stairs where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot, in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)


Two Palestinian men, suspected informers for Israel, are dragged on the streets in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three suspected informers were shot and killed by Palestinians in retaliation for a helicopter missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi) 


Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Photo by Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron.


Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. (Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters)


A body of a suspected informer hangs by his foot from a power pole as a crowd, including children, watches, in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three Palestinians, suspected informers for Israel, were shot and killed in retaliation for an Israeli army helicopter gunship missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)


Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel


180 posted on 04/01/2004 1:53:51 AM PST by Ichneumon
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