Posted on 03/31/2004 5:41:57 PM PST by dinok
Much of the world already hates us for one imagined reason or another - what's to lose?
And while we're at it, let's take a red marker and review the list of nations we give aid to.
More than this, apparently. It's a Religion of Peace according to Our Rulers.
You know - those guys who steal our money and try to run our lives? They know everything.
So was Saddam when he gassed the Kurds, and Hitler when he ordered the mass murder of Jews. What makes you any better?
There is a goal to achieve, and anger doesn't enable rational steps toward achieving that goal.
Advocating the incineration of millions of people is not rational, nor does it actually achieve any goal other than satisfying your desire for blood.
I wasn't indiscriminate.
Sure you were. You want to incinerate every man, woman, and child in several large cities, instead of discriminating between those who are actually our enemies, and those who are not.
I specified several capitals in the ME.
Simply because they *are* in the Middle East, and you're bigoted enough to think that's good enough reason for them to die.
Indiscriminate would be saturation nuclear bombing of non-enemy areas.
Like, say, "several capitals in the ME" when vast numbers of their inhabitants have never acted against us.
Elimination of those intent on killing you is not murder.
Feel free to eliminate those who are actually intent on killing us. But as soon as you decide to nuke entire cities on the "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" plan, it's mass murder of the countless people in those cities who are *not* "intent on killing us". Learn the difference.
I have no problem with being the "bigger monster" that is in fact the point of the lesson delivered.
Then you have already made your point loud and clear. The only thing I'm not clear on is why you seem so proud of it.
It's never a good idea to wake up the boogieman, or monster.
So roll over and go back to sleep, people more moral than yourself are already in charge.
As far as joining you, no thanks, I choice to not be a willing victim.
Your unfounded presumption that I am or would in any way be "a willing victim" is just as knee-jerk simplistic as your idea of how to "solve" the problem of violent anti-Americanism by proving to everyone that we're the most immoral and dangerous nation on the planet.
I'm no "willing victim" -- retaliation and elimination is certainly called for in response to both 9/11 and the recent atrocity in Fallujah. It's just that I think we should be more rational (and moral) in how we do it than just "HULK SMASH!", or engaging in worst atrocities than those we seek to settle accounts with.
Israel is blamed for the chaos of the Palestinian peoples..
yet a quick glance at the money page shows the gangsters robbing their own to the tune of millions..so that they are indeed allways angry and frustrated..as the environs continue to resemble a civic dump.
Hatred uncontrolled usually leads to an act of violence.
In the case of the Palestinians..its a national hatred.
Money will not satisfy...neither will land.
They want all....
that desire will see them to the precipice edge.
Unfortunately, this is generally the maximum level of protest from muslims when they disagree with the actions of their religious brethren.
-- William Shakespeare
Boy, have *you* got the wrong guy... Are you sure you actually understood my posts?
name one just one Muslim leader you have seen today howl in protest over this atrocity. Hell come to think of it name one cheese eating surrender monkey that has condemned the deed. Name all of the fine humanitarian nations in the Middle East that have come to the aid of the United States to stop the killing in Iraq during or after Saddam.
Okay, I'll bite -- exactly what does any of that have to do with the points I made?
No PC here,
None here either, son.
the facts are clear this part of the world is evil and dangerous.
It is certainly dangerous and there is indeed much evil there. That still doesn't justify nuking several million people out of existence (including countless Christians, remember) just because they were born in that region, in what would be by far the biggest act of mass murder in history, if that was what you were attempting to disjointedly argue.
Maybe you're a big fan of genocide, but I'm not.
Unfortunately, this is generally the maximum level of protest from muslims when they disagree with the actions of their religious brethren.
...lest they be the next ones killed in the streets and hung up on the bridge...
In that part of the world, you quickly learn not to speak out too loudly (if at all) against the thugs, or else you quickly become the next person on their lynching list.
From http://www.glennbeck.com/news/04252002.shtml:
Hooded Palestinian gunmen lift the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel
Palestinians gather around a suspected collaborator who was shot dead by Palestinian gunmen in the West Bank city of Ramallah April 22, 2002. Israeli and Palestinian negotiators met to try to end a three-week-old standoff at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity. Picture taken April 22, 2002. REUTERS/Henrik Flygare
In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN)
In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator rolls over as he bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN)
A Palestinian boy stands by as a man washes blood off the steps where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot in Ramallah, West Bank, Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Palestinian Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
A Palestinian man washes away blood off the stairs where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot, in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
Two Palestinian men, suspected informers for Israel, are dragged on the streets in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three suspected informers were shot and killed by Palestinians in retaliation for a helicopter missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)
Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Photo by Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron.
Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. (Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters)
A body of a suspected informer hangs by his foot from a power pole as a crowd, including children, watches, in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three Palestinians, suspected informers for Israel, were shot and killed in retaliation for an Israeli army helicopter gunship missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel
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