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BBC Report: Noah's Ark "...more credible version based on Babylonian sources."
BBC On Line ^ | Friday, 19 March, 2004 | Jeremy Bowen

Posted on 03/19/2004 10:44:41 AM PST by yankeedame

Last Updated: Friday, 19 March, 2004, 11:06 GMT

Did Noah really build an ark?

By Jeremy Bowen
Presenter, Noah's Ark

In the Bible, God tells Noah he has to build an ark and load a pair of every kind of animal before a great flood engulfs the world. It is widely regarded as a myth, but could it actually be true?

The story of Noah and his ark is one which sticks in the minds of children and never gets forgotten.

God warned Noah - the only good man left in a world full of corruption and violence - to prepare for a great flood. With his sons he built a great ark and the animals marched in two by two. By the time the rain started to fall, Noah was ready. The ark was a refuge until the waters went down, leaving Noah and his menagerie high and dry on Mount Ararat.

There are many problems with the story. If the story is taken literally, it would have taken 35 years for Noah and his family to load two of every animal on earth. And a flood that engulfed the Earth would have left a signature for geologists - yet none has been found.

But it is possible to build a much more credible version of the story based on a different reading of the Bible, on ancient Babylonian sources that predate the Book of Genesis, and on archaeology and science.

Broken apart

The traditional shape of Noah's Ark comes from the imaginations of 19th Century artists. It would have been about 450ft long, and experts say it would have broken apart.

Even if such a feat of marine engineering had been possible, there are about 30 million species of animals in the world. For so many creatures, a fleet of enormous arks would have been needed.

Geologists have also proved that there is not enough water in the world to cover all the continents, then or now.

Loading 30 million species of animal would have taken 35 years But just because the details of this familiar story do not add up, should we turn our backs on Noah and the ark?

We have to forget the idea that such a huge boat carrying all known animals existed, that it came to rest on Mount Ararat in modern-day Turkey, and that a flood covered the entire Earth.

In 1851, British archaeologists discovered hundreds of clay tablets while digging in ancient Babylon.

It was 20 years later that British Museum assistant George Smith became the first person to read them. He found the story of Gilgamesh, which bore strong similarities to that of Noah. He was visited by the great gods, who decided there would be a great deluge, told him to make a boat and carry in it the seed of all living things.

Further Iraqi texts were discovered, showing the story emerged in Mesopotamia. And in the 1930s conclusive evidence of a huge flood in the area about 5,000 years ago - the time of the story of Noah - was found.

Trading centres

What we know of the culture of what is now Iraq gives the first glimpse of the real-life historical figure behind the myth.

Noah might have been king of a city called Shuruppak. He would have had a kilt, a shaven head and eye make-up, like the figures portrayed in artworks created in what was then known as Sumeria.

The epic of Gilgamesh says Noah had silver and gold, then the currency of wealthy merchants, suggesting he was a businessman.

Could this story have provided the inspiration for the Book of Genesis 2,000 years later?

Instead of building an ark to survive a great flood, he is more likely to have built boats to trade goods like beer, grain and animals.

All the big trading centres of the era were on the River Euphrates and it was cheaper to move goods by water than land. Sumerians were able to build barges about 20ft in length, and marine archaeologists have not found remains or inscriptions of larger vessels.

But they believe they would have had the technology to have built a series of barges and used them like pontoons on which a much larger boat, or ark, could have been constructed.

Tropical storm

Parts of the Euphrates were only navigable at certain times of the year, when the waters were deep enough for large boats.

Noah was likely to have waited for the melt waters to arrive in June and July and, if these had combined with a tropical storm, the river could have flooded the Mesopotamian plain.

The currents in the area would not have taken him towards Mount Ararat, but out into the Persian Gulf. Life would have been difficult, but they could have survived on the animals and beer on board.

One Babylonian text suggests the ark came to rest on what is now the island of Bahrain, providing a very different yet plausible end to the adventure.

Could this story have provided the inspiration for the holy men who wrote the Book of Genesis 2,000 years later? When they first heard the story, how could they fail to recognise its moral power, that if humankind falls short of God's laws, there's a dreadful price to pay. Behind that moral message lies one of the world's greatest stories.

And behind that story we can just glimpse a real man, a real boat and a real adventure.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; United Kingdom
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To: dartuser
Huge dinosaurs certainly werent on the ark, they perished in the flood ... their survivors were chosen for extinction by natural selection ...

Why would large dinosaurs be kept off the Ark while smller ones were allowed onboard? Where's the logic in that?

So, the dinosaurs that survived the flood then died out through natural selection? Why would an entire animal group like that die out? It seems strange that God would create species that He knew were not good enough to survive in the long-run. Heck, if He knew that dinosaurs would all die out, why even bother putting them on the Ark?

101 posted on 03/22/2004 9:48:15 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: yankeedame
somebody at the BBC was watching the History Channel. Reporters are sooooooo lazy.
102 posted on 03/22/2004 9:56:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Modernman
"How many animal species were aboard the Ark?"

Depends on what your definition of species is.
103 posted on 03/22/2004 10:11:27 AM PST by Chewbacca ("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
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To: Dog Gone
God probably placed all the animals in suspended animation. Think outside the box!
105 posted on 03/22/2004 11:20:29 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
God probably placed all the animals in suspended animation. Think outside the box!

The whole idea of an Ark seems incredibly innefficient, as does the flooding of the world. If God was displeased with everyone except Noah, why not simply make the rest of humanity disappear in a flash? God is supposed to be all-powerful: why bother with drowning, a big wooden boat etc.? Seems like God has a really well-inflated sense of theatrics.

106 posted on 03/22/2004 11:25:22 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: night reader
Like unicorns?
107 posted on 03/22/2004 11:27:43 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Modernman
The whole idea of starting from scratch doesn't seem like God's MO. He didn't do it with mankind after Adam and Eve screwed up and he didn't do it with angels after Lucifer and his gang screwed up.

It's kind of interesting to think that God created angels knowing what would happen and created mankind knowing what would happen. I don't get the point of it. You create things because of the surprise of the finished product. You have the idea in your head, but you don't really know how it will turn out until you're done. God knew exactly how it would turn out. No mystery at all. God must be really bored by his existence. What joy is there?
108 posted on 03/22/2004 11:35:34 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
God knew exactly how it would turn out. No mystery at all. God must be really bored by his existence. What joy is there?

To take it another step, you could almost say that God has no free will. Since he can see the future, he knows exactly what is going to happen. No matter what decision he makes, the decision has already been made and he knows the result.

So, what's the point of God's existence? He's all powerful, all-knowing. There's no action he can take, nothing he can do, that will in any way please him, surprise him or teach him anything. Seems like a pretty hellish existence, actually.

109 posted on 03/22/2004 11:44:31 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: Modernman
Can God choose to exist or not? Can he commit suicide?
110 posted on 03/22/2004 12:00:00 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Modernman
Dinosaurs were just plain naughty, so God, in his mercy, snuffed them out.

Point's moot, really. Divergent and convergent speciation is still occuring - the original plan He set down works, flood or no flood, Noah or Gillgamesh (or Hiawatha, whatever).
111 posted on 03/22/2004 1:02:19 PM PST by FormerRep
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112 posted on 05/19/2005 9:05:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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