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Carlie Brucia found, dead
WCBS newsradio, cnn

Posted on 02/06/2004 3:35:51 AM PST by YankeeGirl

Just heard on WCBS newsradio NY that CNN reports Carlie Brucia found dead in Sarasota.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 12thcircuit; brucia; carlie; carliebrucia; crime; criminal; death; druggies; getjudgerapkin; judgeharryripken; kidnap; killsmith; legal; manateecty; mandatorysentencing; murder; prosecution; rape; recidivism; ripripkenanuone; ritalin; sarasota; torture
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; SarahW
So, Sarah...Don't you wonder if Joseph Smith was receiving unemployment benefits, or disability benefits because of his "medical condition"?

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441 posted on 02/06/2004 8:14:14 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's Wife)
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To: Catspaw
DId you see Nautinurse's post about the local Sarasota art gallery owner, who was killed in January? She was a lovely woman. Someone got into her gallery when she was alone, and stabbed her to death and mutilated her.

Her Decomposed body was found in late January...

Her name was Joyce Wishart, if you want to google up more info.
442 posted on 02/06/2004 8:15:08 AM PST by SarahW
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To: NautiNurse
Czaia is one of the most rabid liberals in this part of Florida. He's scum. That's as much as I can say without being banned for obscenities.
443 posted on 02/06/2004 8:15:11 AM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright
Yep. I emailed Jeb demanding impeachment and a full investigation of multiple failures including WHY WASN'T SMITH ON A PREDATOR LIST?

I called Ripken's voicemail just for effect, you know, ruin his weekend for being soft on crime. 17 arrests - that speaks volumes.

444 posted on 02/06/2004 8:15:38 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: TravisBickle
Since the fear of the death penalty is not enough to scare these guys, maybe a chance that they would be heinously tortured just might make these creeps think twice

Maybe Geraldo should have been allowed to televise that execution a few years ago. Sure, the liberals will whine but a public airing may cause a handful of future killers to think twice.

445 posted on 02/06/2004 8:16:11 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
This just has to do something for Americans to start writing lawmakers, Representatives, media. A rant that should be heard Nationwide. Too many of these monsters have been given free passes to murder our children.
May this Judge be haunted.....
446 posted on 02/06/2004 8:16:34 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: ican'tbelieveit
The poor thing didn't have her parents permission to walk by herself. She told her friend's parents she did... :(
447 posted on 02/06/2004 8:17:15 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: djf
I hope the lawyer scum and judges who managed to get him off on his first kidnapping charge sleep well tonight. In hell!!! Just goes to show the utter failure of our "legal system", where the word "justice" is nothing more than a money-making mantra.

Well, that's what happens when you have a system that places the burden of proof on the prosecution, and where the accused are presumed to be innocent. It's understood that some of the guilty are going to go free, in exchange for not convicting the innocent. I'm sure if we had a system where the burden of proof was on the defense, and where the accused was presumed to be guilty, we'd get a lot more prosecutions.

448 posted on 02/06/2004 8:18:02 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: Beck_isright
Czaia is one of the most rabid liberals in this part of Florida.

Albeit, it was a "hold my nose" vote for the RINO Mike Bennett. Don't get me started on that one either...

449 posted on 02/06/2004 8:18:32 AM PST by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: floriduh voter
"Small Town"???????? Close to 200,000 living here now. Not counting the 150,000 tourists in and out of here during the snowbird months. They moved him because they wanted him totally isolated.
450 posted on 02/06/2004 8:18:55 AM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: NautiNurse
"Albeit, it was a "hold my nose" vote for the RINO Mike Bennett. Don't get me started on that one either..."

Ditto. That's why I'm glad I'm out of Bennett's district. He's useless.
451 posted on 02/06/2004 8:21:33 AM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: SarahW
I've read about her brutal murder and know that it's unsolved. I hope law enforcement is reviewing that case in light of Smith's arrest.

It sounds like Smith has had a pattern of attempting to violently abduct women. I wonder if he had a juvenile record (I'd put my money on it being extensive).

452 posted on 02/06/2004 8:23:01 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: floriduh voter
He's accountable because he was soft on crime and that J. Ripken was on the internet. I also stated that I was already disgusted with J. Greer, Baird and Demers and now the 12th Circuit.

Isn't it amazing, NOT, that these creeps always have a mile long history which judges ignore time and time and time and time and time again.

453 posted on 02/06/2004 8:24:17 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: SarahW
I guess I need to go back and re-read the info about the judge. BRB
454 posted on 02/06/2004 8:24:29 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Beautiful.......... and talk about a deterrent!! I know these kinds of punishments won't happen these days, but they should. You just may have fewer guys willing to abduct innocent children.
455 posted on 02/06/2004 8:24:56 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Houmatt
Am I the only one who finds this method particularly offensive?

No you aren't. I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If I were king of the world a murderer would be executed exactly the same way he killed his victim(s).

456 posted on 02/06/2004 8:27:04 AM PST by epow
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To: SarahW
Yes, he has the con man's touch. It's easy to see how he could have gotten Carly to let her guard down. That's why we have to be brutally honest with our children about the risks out there and how to deal with them. And not to let them out of the house alone until they "get it." (I am not blaming these parents, Carly was out alone against their instructions, as children will do.)
457 posted on 02/06/2004 8:27:38 AM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: spectre
HE may not have been. If he was fired for cause, he wouldn't get unemployment benefits.

I don't think he would qualify for Social Security Disability, either... one, because his employment history is so spotty, he probably doesn't have sufficient credits.

Two, his medications were two anti-depressants IIRC Trazadone and Wellbutrin, and hydrocodone...the latter may have been to control his addiction or manage pain from his back surgery, or for some other reasons. He probably does not have a qualifying condition, a permanent disability.

Three, it takes quite a long time to get such benefits even if one qualifies (and he probably did not). Even when benefits are granted they start six months from the date of disability.

He might have gotten some SSI. The judge would have to take into account his bare-necessity living expenses, and SSI payments are very small.

Without other evidence that he was violating parole or screwing up (not coming to parole interviews, getting caught out late, etc) and with evidence that he is trying to shape up, a judge would not normally revoke parole for failing to make the payments on his fines and court costs.

All things considered, the judge acted reasonably.

HE isn't the problem. The fact that Joe Smith got away with assaulting women so many times before and no one had figured this mope out by now, is the problem.
458 posted on 02/06/2004 8:28:25 AM PST by SarahW
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To: floriduh voter
He should have been on a predator list since 1993.
459 posted on 02/06/2004 8:29:16 AM PST by SarahW
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To: SarahW
This is what I read...and my reaction was based on the fact that the guy was already known as a career criminal.
" had not paid all his fines and court costs."

My oldest daughter had 2 unpaid traffic violations...and an arrest warrant was issued. Had she not paid her tickets and court costs, she would have been arrested for running a red light and speeding (from 2 separate events). She paid her well-deserved penalty. This guy was a career criminal..I don't see why he should have been treated lightely. ??

460 posted on 02/06/2004 8:29:51 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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