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Rough Ride - Protect Our Border's - Fight Illegal Immigration {{{Ongoing Thread}}}
Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | 1-29-04 | Bob Moser

Posted on 01/29/2004 1:42:07 AM PST by JustPiper

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

This article has upset me greatly. When the Freedom Bus Ride was ongoing, we had an ongoing thread posted by EternalWarming. On this thread I posted an after Freep report my daughter and I attended in Chicago. On this thread someone also posted an inflammatory picture which was removed but we tastelessly laughed at it.

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger. As many poster's this person was a hit/miss. I attended this Freep back in June. And this article has a few paragraphs about me, one of which is exactly what I posted. The second, is apparently doctored and quite contrary to my post. I cleared this in order to be able to post it.

Credit to thecabal for the above logo

Today begins an ongoing thread to add your links, important news,legislative happenings etc. all regarding the protection of our borders. There are now so many articles and news stories that it is good to have one place to view it all.

I will start off this thread with saying I believe we all need to contact our state representatives and those is our party who need to know this is not a one-horse issue that will go away.I have stated that all it takes is one issue to start a domino effect and the entire administration could fall apart. None of us wants that to happen. We also need to contact the media and make sure the democratic spin on this is not for political advantage. This issue is closely correlated with the War On Terror for terrorist's are using our open border's against us the same way they used commercial flights to attack us on 911.

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

Here is the story:

Anti-immigration activists confront a pro-migrant freedom ride — joined by some of America's leading neo-Nazi groups

Exerpted:

On the sparkling afternoon of Oct. 3, 18 buses carrying more than 900 Immigrant Workers Freedom Riders rolled into New Jersey's Liberty State Park. The riders, many of them illegal immigrant workers from Central America, had boarded the buses nearly two weeks before in 10 different U.S. cities.

Inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides for black civil rights, they'd made more than 100 stops in small towns and big cities to promote their reform agenda: greater workplace protections, reunification of immigrant families, and a "road to citizenship" for America's estimated 8 to 10 million undocumented workers.

Some of the protests had been lonely, with one or two anti-immigration activists holding signs with slogans like "Being Illegal Is Not a Civil Right." But at upwards of a dozen Freedom Ride stops, the anti-immigration activists had been joined by members of the nation's largest white-supremacist hate groups — all of whom had come together for today's demonstration.

Their arguments often sounded similar. Like Turner and many hate-group leaders, the powerful Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) called for federal officials to arrest the undocumented Freedom Riders.

"Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported," Mark Krikorian of CIS told the Miami Herald.

At a Chicago rally, where members of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and the neo-Nazi White Revolution appeared along with members of mainstream anti-immigration groups, protesters held signs saying, "No more free rides. No more welfare. No more stolen jobs."

This is where I need to interject ...The first highlighted paragraph 'is' in fact what I posted in my after Freep report

For many of the anti-immigration protesters, rallying side-by-side with neo-Nazis and Klansmen was too close for comfort. "Turns out we were smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!" an anti-immigration activist calling erself "JustPiper" complained on an Internet chat site after the Chicago counter-demonstration.

This is obviosuly what the DU troll rewrote from the rest of my report for me and sent it to SPLC

But what really got under JustPiper's skin seemed to be the Freedom Riders, not the neo-Nazis from White Revolution. "[T]hese banditos kept screaming obscenities and threats at us," she claimed. "Lemme tellya, they were just coming with signs like cockroaches!"

I've posted thousands of replies and articles here and never have I said something so idiotic or silly like this. I have made a derogatory remark about illegals offhanded saying they were reproducing like some creature. And yes I posted they were yelling threats and obsecenities at my daughter and I. But we stayed silent holding our poster's in front of us. Also we left the group when a federal agent (This was in front of the Federal Building)told us we were standing by white supremacist's which means now both side's were scaring us and we went to stand with some police officer's who knew our dual plight. So people firsthand I am feeling the sting and I will not back down from the illegal immigrant issue!

Now onto links:

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Contact your local media and the following of your choice:

ABC NEWS
BOSTON GLOBE
CBS
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
FOX NEWS
NY TIMES
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON TIMES
WORLD NET DAILY

LOU DOBBS -EXPORTING AMERICA

Scarborough Country

MICHELLE MALKIN

PAT BUCHANAN


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To: JustPiper
We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger.

A bum on the street has more integrity than Morris Dees, the headmeister of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a well known hate group.

161 posted on 02/04/2004 10:41:42 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Blake#1
If you and your type kiked out the hispanics this economy would collapse

LOL! Yeah, right! Hey, look, the sky is falling! Illegal aliens make up at most about 3-4% of the American workforce. We could easily replace them with able bodied Americans who are currently unemployed, on welfare, or are in high school or college and are looking for almost any type of employment just to have some pocket money. Isn't it amazing how the U.S. got by without illegal alien workers for so long and now all of a sudden they're supposedly indispensable to the American economy.

162 posted on 02/04/2004 11:00:03 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Blake#1
What part of Illegal don't you comprehend. Why don't you go back to Mehico, you are not wanted. Don't you get it?
163 posted on 02/05/2004 12:08:20 AM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: JustPiper
Last one closing the door...BTTT. Thanks Justpiper!
164 posted on 02/05/2004 1:27:51 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks ! And amen !

165 posted on 02/05/2004 6:47:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
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To: Pro-Bush
The illegals are not "your" problem. If they were expelled, who is next on your list?
166 posted on 02/05/2004 8:01:43 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1
No one is as blind as he that will NOT see!

Right. That is very true. The whole case for liberal immigration is part of the denial of reality, which has been deliberately promoted by the Academic Left over the past two generations. See Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education. The character of a nation is determined by its population. People are not now and never have been interchangeable, and the notion that they are is the ultimate insult to all of us, Americans and Mexicans alike.

William Flax

167 posted on 02/05/2004 9:29:40 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...

Still image from television footage shows a group of Cubans as they tried to sail a 1959 Buick converted into a boat through the Florida Straits towards the United States, on February 3, 2004. The group were intercepted at sea by the U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites), relatives in Cuba and Cuban exiles said on Feb. 4. (Reuters)

The U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites) is seen intercepting a group of Cuban migrants sailing towards the Florida Straits on a modified 1959 Buick Tuesday February 3, 2004. The pilots were the same two men who tried to sail a converted 1951 Chevy flatbed truck to the U.S. last year. Nine other migrants, including wives and children. (AP Photo/photo released by CBS4 )

Cubans fail to sail to U.S. in car | Thu Feb 5,12:06 AM ET | By Frances Kerry | MIAMI (Reuters) - A group of Cubans who tried to sail to the United States in a 1959 Buick car fashioned into a boat have been intercepted at sea by the U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites), relatives in Cuba and Cuban exiles say. | For four of the 11 people on board, it was not the first thwarted attempt to leave the communist island in a bizarrely converted vintage vehicle.

Cubans Try to Reach Fla. in Floating Car Wed Feb 4, 2:09 PM ET | MIAMI - Two Cubans who tried to sail to Florida in a truck converted to a pontoon boat last year are making another attempt, this time piloting a seagoing 1950s-era Buick with four other adults and five children, relatives said

168 posted on 02/05/2004 11:51:49 AM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: Blake#1
The illegals are not "your" problem. If they were expelled, who is next on your list?

The illegals are all Americans problem. No one is "on the list" but illegals no matter what country they came from. Illegal is illegal, get it? If someone wants to come to America do it legally. Yes I know, it is easier said than done (legal immigration). I have family members who were not born in this country but they came here legally. Lots of paperwork, lots of hoops to jump through and yes lots of time. BUT THEY DID IT LEGALLY!

169 posted on 02/05/2004 12:35:18 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Ohioan
All over the world this morning people lined up at US Embassies, to get into the USofA. You White Christian Males have created a "Heaven" on Earth here in the USofA. In addition our borders, both land and sea, are swarming with people that want in. They are getting in and their numbers will not drop in our life time. This is the situation that President Bush must act upon. He has done so and it appears to me to be a reasonable solution. You and your racial/ethnic purists should look for another area in which to live your selected life. I may ask to join you if the area can reasonably be secure from this sort of immigration in the future.
170 posted on 02/05/2004 12:36:36 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: JustPiper
Afternoon JP, Just a thought to pass on. Something I did about 1 year ago out of frustration. I bought some of those sticky-backed labels at the office supply store that you can run through you computer printer. Printed on each sticker: America=English.

I keep a handful of them in my purse. Whenever I see something printed in any language other than english (on the bathroom door in the store, Home Depot gift card I received, etc.) I slap one of those stickers on over the foreign language. Maybe some folks will think I'm being "intolerant" but I don't care. Want to come to America you better learn the language.

When I go to another country on vacation I don't expect them to accommodate me and speak English wherever I choose to go. I'm just fed up with the PC in the country. This is America and our language is English!

Phew, I feel better.

171 posted on 02/05/2004 12:43:38 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: JustPiper; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Cubans must be partial to off-green in painting their vehicles.

I recall the very same stunt when I was in Miami last August ('03).

A butt-load of Cubans swamped a 194X GMC on pontoons and headed for Miami.

Bush ordered them deported. The Miami Cuban community threatened to jerk all 2004 presidential support out from under Bush's tushie.

Anybody recall how that threat wound up working out for the illegal migrants?

BTW: If anybody has pics from last August's Cuban migrants blackmailing the president in Miami, please post them. (I'm talking about the green GMC/Chevy flotilla.)

Apparently, Bush's amnesty program has made it's way past the Castro filter machine.

172 posted on 02/05/2004 1:08:19 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Blake#1
You and your racial/ethnic purists should look for another area in which to live your selected life.

Nice strawman. No one here has advocated "racial purity". Try a new tactic, that one is getting pretty old around here.

173 posted on 02/05/2004 4:49:01 PM PST by thecabal
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To: JustPiper

Border-Crossing Students Outrage Parents

SAN DIEGO — Mexican teenagers have been crossing the border to attend school in America for years as the schools they attend collect more tax dollars for enrolling them.

The crossings were first documented back in 1993 when a former San Diego assemblyman videotaped students crossing the border and boarding a bus that took them to a U.S. school.

The illegal crossings for education are still a trend eleven years later. A Fox News crew recently watched while students left Southwest High School (search) for the day and got on a trolley that took them down to the border where they crossed over to go home for the evening.

Parents in the Sweetwater School District (search) are outraged because they say students are now forced to go to schools that are overcrowded, and they say they've begged the district to implement tougher enrollment standards but the district insists the problem isn't widespread.

The district counters that they have very stringent residency rules and require students to show proof of residency before being enrolled. But the district admits it receives $5,400 each year from the state for each student enrolled, which some parents contend is the real issue.

174 posted on 02/05/2004 4:51:56 PM PST by thecabal
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To: Oorang
Wow, that's pretty subversive. ;)
175 posted on 02/05/2004 4:53:29 PM PST by thecabal
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To: thecabal
Yeah, I guess I always liked being the rabble rousing bad girl :-)
176 posted on 02/05/2004 5:12:58 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: thecabal
I guess this should surprise me but it doesn't. Public education these days is more about how much money the schools can get than how much, or what quality, education they can provide.
177 posted on 02/05/2004 5:16:37 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: thecabal
Parents in the Sweetwater School District (search) are outraged because they say students are now forced to go to schools that are overcrowded, and they say they've begged the district to implement tougher enrollment standards but the district insists the problem isn't widespread.

As if American taxpayers don't have enough to pay for... students from other countries walk in and help themselves to our schools. I seriously doubt this is what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they set up this country.

178 posted on 02/05/2004 5:23:54 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Oorang
You hit the nail on the head. I had a friend who was getting sick of high school and ready to quit. The principal tried everything to get him to stay. Finally, he basically offered to graduate my friend if he would just show up for school everyday, regardless of the work done. I don't know about other places, but here in Oregon the school gets a certain amount of money (I believe it's about $10000 right now) for every warm body they have filling a seat. So the principal didn't want to lose that money, and was willing to do just about anything to keep it.
179 posted on 02/05/2004 5:26:00 PM PST by thecabal
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Yep. There is a freshman Republican RINO state rep from Oregon that tried to push a bill through our state legislature that would give in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. One thing that sucks about my great state is that the Democrats might as well be called the Communist Party and the Republicans might as well be called the Democrat Party. That's about where their policies lie. Yuck.
180 posted on 02/05/2004 5:30:22 PM PST by thecabal
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