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Rough Ride - Protect Our Border's - Fight Illegal Immigration {{{Ongoing Thread}}}
Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | 1-29-04 | Bob Moser

Posted on 01/29/2004 1:42:07 AM PST by JustPiper

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

This article has upset me greatly. When the Freedom Bus Ride was ongoing, we had an ongoing thread posted by EternalWarming. On this thread I posted an after Freep report my daughter and I attended in Chicago. On this thread someone also posted an inflammatory picture which was removed but we tastelessly laughed at it.

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger. As many poster's this person was a hit/miss. I attended this Freep back in June. And this article has a few paragraphs about me, one of which is exactly what I posted. The second, is apparently doctored and quite contrary to my post. I cleared this in order to be able to post it.

Credit to thecabal for the above logo

Today begins an ongoing thread to add your links, important news,legislative happenings etc. all regarding the protection of our borders. There are now so many articles and news stories that it is good to have one place to view it all.

I will start off this thread with saying I believe we all need to contact our state representatives and those is our party who need to know this is not a one-horse issue that will go away.I have stated that all it takes is one issue to start a domino effect and the entire administration could fall apart. None of us wants that to happen. We also need to contact the media and make sure the democratic spin on this is not for political advantage. This issue is closely correlated with the War On Terror for terrorist's are using our open border's against us the same way they used commercial flights to attack us on 911.

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

Here is the story:

Anti-immigration activists confront a pro-migrant freedom ride — joined by some of America's leading neo-Nazi groups

Exerpted:

On the sparkling afternoon of Oct. 3, 18 buses carrying more than 900 Immigrant Workers Freedom Riders rolled into New Jersey's Liberty State Park. The riders, many of them illegal immigrant workers from Central America, had boarded the buses nearly two weeks before in 10 different U.S. cities.

Inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides for black civil rights, they'd made more than 100 stops in small towns and big cities to promote their reform agenda: greater workplace protections, reunification of immigrant families, and a "road to citizenship" for America's estimated 8 to 10 million undocumented workers.

Some of the protests had been lonely, with one or two anti-immigration activists holding signs with slogans like "Being Illegal Is Not a Civil Right." But at upwards of a dozen Freedom Ride stops, the anti-immigration activists had been joined by members of the nation's largest white-supremacist hate groups — all of whom had come together for today's demonstration.

Their arguments often sounded similar. Like Turner and many hate-group leaders, the powerful Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) called for federal officials to arrest the undocumented Freedom Riders.

"Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported," Mark Krikorian of CIS told the Miami Herald.

At a Chicago rally, where members of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and the neo-Nazi White Revolution appeared along with members of mainstream anti-immigration groups, protesters held signs saying, "No more free rides. No more welfare. No more stolen jobs."

This is where I need to interject ...The first highlighted paragraph 'is' in fact what I posted in my after Freep report

For many of the anti-immigration protesters, rallying side-by-side with neo-Nazis and Klansmen was too close for comfort. "Turns out we were smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!" an anti-immigration activist calling erself "JustPiper" complained on an Internet chat site after the Chicago counter-demonstration.

This is obviosuly what the DU troll rewrote from the rest of my report for me and sent it to SPLC

But what really got under JustPiper's skin seemed to be the Freedom Riders, not the neo-Nazis from White Revolution. "[T]hese banditos kept screaming obscenities and threats at us," she claimed. "Lemme tellya, they were just coming with signs like cockroaches!"

I've posted thousands of replies and articles here and never have I said something so idiotic or silly like this. I have made a derogatory remark about illegals offhanded saying they were reproducing like some creature. And yes I posted they were yelling threats and obsecenities at my daughter and I. But we stayed silent holding our poster's in front of us. Also we left the group when a federal agent (This was in front of the Federal Building)told us we were standing by white supremacist's which means now both side's were scaring us and we went to stand with some police officer's who knew our dual plight. So people firsthand I am feeling the sting and I will not back down from the illegal immigrant issue!

Now onto links:

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Contact your local media and the following of your choice:

ABC NEWS
BOSTON GLOBE
CBS
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
FOX NEWS
NY TIMES
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON TIMES
WORLD NET DAILY

LOU DOBBS -EXPORTING AMERICA

Scarborough Country

MICHELLE MALKIN

PAT BUCHANAN


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; conservatives; fox; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; information; links; protectourborders
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To: Pro-Bush
Pull your head out of your a-- and come here to the Napa Valley (you could commute) and prune grape vines. Is it your opinion that the work is beneath your talents and self-esteem? Or, you might go to McDonald's, Jack-In-the-Box, etc. Plenty of work, why don't you do it?
141 posted on 02/03/2004 6:41:04 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1
No thanks, my work experience and education requires a higher wage. Pruning grapes is an art, and experienced pruners command wages up to 20$ per hour. Leave the fast food jobs to the teenages/seniors who are looking for work or to earn extra money. What's your point?
142 posted on 02/03/2004 7:42:48 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Pro-Bush
My point is that you and people like you think you are to good for the work discribed. So the jobs are filled by Mexicans, legal or illegal. The next time you drive by a fast-food restaurant take a look at the workers. They are hispanic. The USofA does not have enough European-Americans or African-Americans to fill the low pay jobs. If you and your type kiked out the hispanics this economy would collapse and your salary requirements would go with it. Wake-Up!
143 posted on 02/04/2004 5:37:14 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: Major_Risktaker
Well said Major {salute} And thank you for posting it in the right place!
144 posted on 02/04/2004 1:51:49 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Ping, must see this post by the Major!
145 posted on 02/04/2004 1:53:49 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: Blake#1; Pro-Bush
We have a spellchecker when we post that corrects the english for you ;)
146 posted on 02/04/2004 1:55:50 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Good one!

I hope that is how the Dems end up in November.

Soros going broke would be an added bonus and poetic justice.
147 posted on 02/04/2004 1:58:00 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: JustPiper
bump
148 posted on 02/04/2004 2:01:20 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: Major_Risktaker; JustPiper
Kinda cheeshy.

(But true.)

:~)

149 posted on 02/04/2004 2:18:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Blake#1; JustPiper; Pro-Bush; FITZ; Travis McGee
Alleged Shooter...Illegal Alien in Iowa

Exchange from the above link between FReepers FITZ and Travis McGee in an article posted here yesterday:

(Post #33) "...outside the plastics manufacturing plant.

So no Americans will take jobs in plastics manufacturing??? Sounds like the company needs to be investigated here."

***snip***

My point here is that this isn't about "the jobs Americans don't want to do." This is all about matching workers willing to work for minimum wage or less to employers who are willing to break the law to hire them.

Oh, and by the way...this ain't California, Arizona, New Mexico, or any other border state. This kind of disregard for proper social behavior is coming to a neighborhood near you with absolutely no regard for wherever in America you may live. Get ready, here it comes!!!

150 posted on 02/04/2004 2:35:36 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: HiJinx
bump
151 posted on 02/04/2004 3:26:19 PM PST by moehoward
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To: JustPiper
No nation can stop illegal immigration when the numbers are so large as those that are coming across our borders. PERIOD!!! Look at the history of South Africa, for an example. You can shoot them, arrest them, etc., a nation still can't deal with these numbers. There has to be a way to include them in the nations culture. Bush has so proposed. All you advocate, in the long run, is shoot them or put them in prison.
152 posted on 02/04/2004 3:40:25 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: JustPiper
The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most vicious hate groups in America. It is also about as far Left as you can get. (See How To Recognize The Bigot In The Argument.)

William Flax

153 posted on 02/04/2004 4:16:30 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Blake#1
No nation can stop illegal immigration when the numbers are so large as those that are coming across our borders. PERIOD!!!

What absolute nonsense. We do not have to shoot millions of people, as you go on to suggest. We merely have to make it clear that we will, if necessary, use whatever force is necessary to defend our borders. The alternative is a form of Communism, achieved by Gandhian tactics.

You mention the history of South Africa, with which I am well acquainted. Perhaps you would offer some suggestion of just what in the history of South Africa justifies your premise. I can assure you that, in hindsight, the South Africans would have done more to control the inflow from the North, had they realized where it all would end up.

A nation reflects the people of that nation. If you allow a wholesale repopulation of America, you change everything about America. That is not acceptable to any Conservative American. (See Immigration & The American Future.)

William Flax

154 posted on 02/04/2004 4:24:19 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Blake#1
Look Blake, I had a Furnace/Air Conditioner installed recently, and all the workers were "No Halba", and pointed to the foreman, who spoke minimal English.

Now, you tell me that is a not a job that the average Joe American would take?

You are only fooling yourself and no one else.

Your warmth towards these criminals is quite disheartening.
155 posted on 02/04/2004 6:53:56 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Major_Risktaker
Bump! lol

Where's the Nacho Cheese?
156 posted on 02/04/2004 6:58:23 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Pro-Bush
BUMP to read tomorrow.
157 posted on 02/04/2004 9:00:07 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Ohioan
No one is as blind as he that will NOT see!
158 posted on 02/04/2004 10:04:13 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: Pro-Bush
Open your eyes, you're proving my point!
159 posted on 02/04/2004 10:05:26 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: JustPiper
Bump!
160 posted on 02/04/2004 10:26:22 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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