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Who Were The Si-Te-Cah
Runestone.org ^ | Steve McNallen

Posted on 11/23/2003 6:48:27 PM PST by blam

WHO WERE THE SI-TE-CAH?

Note the cranial similarities between this Lovelock Cave skull discovered in the 1920's and the Kennewick Man sketch by Jamie Chatters (Click on the site) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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This 1995 article by Steve McNallen was written months before the discovery of the Kennewick Man or the current controversy over ancient Caucasians in North America. In retrospect, it seems hauntingly prophetic.

The history of the European peoples in the are we call California is generally assumed to have begun with the Spanish in the 1500's, followed later by the English (represented by Sir Francis Drake) and by the Russians. Our history books tell us all about these explorations, and we European-Californians should be knowledgeable about this part of our heritage. However, the books WON'T tell you about some of the more apocryphal reports of our kind of people in the American West, long ago...

Lovelock, Nevada, is about eighty miles northeast of Reno. It was in a cave near here, in 1911, that guano miners found mummies, bones, and artifacts buried under four feet of bat excrement. The desiccated bodies belonged to a very tall people - with red hair.

This is not the physical profile of your typical American Indian, to put it mildly. And in fact, the local Paiutes had legends about these towering troublemakers, whom they called the "Si-Te-Cah." According to them the redheads were a warlike people, and a number of the Indian tribes joined together in a long war against them. Eventually, the Paiutes and their allies forced the Si-Te-Cah back to their home acres, near Mount Shasta in our own California.

Mining engineer and amateur archeologist John T. Reid took an interest in the remains of the Si-Te-Cah and did his best to document the finds as they were unearthed. He also interviewed many locals who had knowledge of the affair. His memoirs can be found in the Nevada Historical Society Archives, located in Reno.

Official archeology refused to take an interest. According to reports, two investigators were sent to the scene. One was from the University of California, and the other from New York. Rather than unearthing facts, they seemed more interested in burying them - literally; we are told the New Yorker ordered a mummy reburied on at least once occasion. Nor was anything published about the anomalies until 1929, seventeen years after their visit.

So how did the mummies get in the cave, anyway? The way the Paiutes tell it, the Si-Te-Cah lived on a lake in the basin overlooked by the cave. When I say on the lake, that's just what I mean - they dwelled on rafts to escape harassment from the Paiutes. The rafts, like many other things in Si-Te-Cah society, were made of a fibrous water plant called tule; in fact, the name Si-Te-Cah means "tule eaters."

The Paiutes and the long-legged redheads did not get along well. The Indians accused the Si-Te-Cah of being cannibals, and waged war against them. The Si-Te-Cah fought back. After a long struggle, a coalition of tribes trapped the remaining Si-Te-Cah in what is now called Lovelock Cave. When they refused to come out, the Indians piled brush before the cave mouth and set it aflame. The Si-Te-Cah were annihilated.

Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins, daughter of Paiute Chief Winnemucca, related many stories about the Si-Te-Cah in her book Life Among the Paiutes. On page 75, she relates, "My people say that the tribe we exterminated had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been in our family a great many years, trimmed with the reddish hair. I am going to wear it some time when I lecture. It is called a mourning dress, and no one has such a dress but my family."

All of this could be dismissed as another tall tale, but the case for the Si-Te-Cah does not rest on one man's research, or on remains found in one guano-filled cave. In 1931, mummies wee discovered in the Humboldt Lake bed. Eight years later, a mystery skeleton was unearthed on a ranch in the region. In each case, the skeletons or mummies were exceptionally tall and appeared to be connected with the strange lost race of redheads.

According to the Indians, the Si-Te-Cah built a pyramidal stone structure in New York Canyon, some miles away in Churchill County. Unfortunately, the area is riven with earthquakes and the rocky ruins have largely tumbled over the years.

Not much has survived from the Si-Te-Cah. When the archeological establishment refused to take their existence seriously, a number of small, private museums arose to fill the gap. A fire in one of these destroyed an irreplaceable collection of bones, mummified remains, feathered artifacts, and shells carved with mysterious symbols. Today there is a museum in Lovelock with a display describing the cave finds, but it ignores allegations that the Si-Te-Cah were anything other than Indians. The Nevada State Historical Society has some artifacts from the cave, but again, there is not even a hint of controversy.

Today, the basin that held the lake is a dry and dusty desert, its water usually limited to a few alkali pool, and the tule is as gone as the mysterious people who once ate it and floated on rafts made from its stalks. But the cave is still there, looming darkly above the desert floor, accessible by a short climb up a winding trail. It is a natural defensive position; it the Paiutes tried attacking the Si-Te-Cah from this direction, they must have taken considerable losses.

On the day we were there, there were no Paiutes in sight - nor tourists, nor prospectors, nor anyone else. Our eyes soon grew accustomed to the cave's gloom, and within minutes we had explored the extent of the sheltering rock. I scrambled out a secondary entrance/exit, a hole that opened a few yards to one side. Pausing to admire the endless desert view, I walked back to the main entrance. There, far from water of any kind, was a knot made of two strands of fibrous water plant - tule. It hadn't been buried; no mud or clods clung to it. It looked as though someone had placed it there moments before. Had it been there when we entered the cave? Well, I hadn't seen it, though admittedly I was focused on the cave itself.

So who were the Si-Te-Cah? We may never know. From John Reid's journals, it is clear he was researching the occurrence of other "White tribes" throughout what is now the United States. We have tales of Celtic settlements that preceded Columbus, but they were presumably on the other side of the continent and it's hard to see how they would have gotten to Nevada. Could bands of our people have migrated across the Bering Strait at the same time as the ancestors of the Indians? Our kind do have a propensity to wander...

The existence of early, previously unknown Eurofolk in the Nevada-California region indicates that our roots here may be even deeper than we suspected. We need to recover what we can of our lost heritage, and transmit it to our children as part of their birthright. Maybe the Si-Te-Cah were a transitory phenomenon - but this time, we're here to stay!


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To: blam
We had an editor of a regional newspaper who looked for and found Celtic symbols throughout NM and Eastern Arizona. It was very interesting. About the time I thought I could sign up for one his excursions he got cancer and died.
81 posted on 09/03/2005 8:58:39 PM PDT by tiki
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To: happygrl

"Have red headed people alway's been mean?
That's fiery-tempered to you, NOT mean."


Speak for yourself.
I'm just plain mean.
[could be the red hair/green eyes combo only, though]....;D


82 posted on 04/25/2006 4:03:00 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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Just a Blast from the Past.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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83 posted on 08/20/2006 2:37:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

the Yoyoi

not related but I couldn’t help but think that Yoyoi and the greek word hoipolloi (meaning the masses) were both terms used to descibe the ruled underclasses in both ancient Japan and Greece!


84 posted on 07/14/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Horatio Gates

“Tule eaters?” That’s an elk right? How does one join this tribe”

No its moose...and you have to bite my sister to join!


85 posted on 07/14/2007 9:29:39 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: gopheraj

Now you’ve done it......

A cherokee chief with red hair is legendary in Soutwest virginia counties of Scot and Wise.
He was known as Chief Benge, a terror to settlers and a posessor of red hair.

He was however a halfbreed scott/cherokee i think..


86 posted on 07/14/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: bert

Uh oh. LOL My Cherokee ancestors (from Chattanooga and NC)were intermarried with scotsmen I believe - Shoemake (then changed to Shoemaker and other variations) Not German like you would think that name was.


87 posted on 07/14/2007 10:02:31 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: mdmathis6
LOL...This was one thread where I wasn't expecting a resurrection
88 posted on 07/14/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (So rats don't take over and things get askew, gotta listen to the boy named Tzu)
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To: visualops; blam
The "Scythians" turn out to be a wide variety of people of all kinds. They shared in a common culture suited to the North Asian plains.

However, the name "Scythian" is also known as Sakha or Yakut. This was Buddha's tribe in Nepal/North India who ran that "end" or "tail" of the Silk Road. They also ran a vast area that included a good deal of India and Central Asia.

To make a long story short the Hindu Revival started up about the 2nd Century and they ran the Buddhists, most particularly the Sakha, out of the place to the degree possible. The Sakha returned to an ancient homeland in Siberia (which they shared with the Reindeer people).

Recovering nicely they invaded Korea and Japan in the 6th century. Today the head of that tribe is the Emperor of Japan who traces his lineage all the way back to the first Emperor ~ and he's a Sakha. Sometimes the Sakha are mistaken for Koreans since they set out from Korea to conquer Dark Ages Japan. Alas, the Sakha in Korea were just recent conquerers.

So, who were the reindeer people they consorted with and swapped daughters to? Were they East Central Asians, or West Central Asians with a modicum of blondism and red hair.

I don't think anyone knows at the moment, but if you look up Sakha and take a good look at what these folks look like you'll be scratching your head Fur Shur.

89 posted on 03/13/2008 5:32:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Sakha Republic
90 posted on 03/13/2008 5:44:15 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/mar/assessment.asp?groupId=36538


91 posted on 03/13/2008 5:57:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

Go to Analytic Summary. That’s Joe Stalin doing that killing ~ while Putin’s grandfather was the chief cook at the Kremlin.


92 posted on 03/13/2008 5:58:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Got it, thanks.


93 posted on 03/13/2008 6:07:03 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: gopheraj; blam

I think I’ve posted this before on blams threads.

I have a vague memory of reading something about the first russians to set foot on alaska. They told of vicious red haired barbarians that attacked them with catapults. There was no reasoning with them. So every last one was killed by the russians. Even the women and children.

I can’t remember wehre I read this. I can’t find anything anywhere about red haired primitives in alaska. Has anyone ever heard of this or read anything like it?


94 posted on 03/13/2008 6:13:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre; muawiyah
" Has anyone ever heard of this or read anything like it?

Sorry, no.

95 posted on 03/13/2008 6:52:38 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

The Jomon and Ainu are part of a division in the East Asian population that includes the Chinese. The separation from so-called Caucasions occurred EARLIER.


96 posted on 03/13/2008 7:47:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dennisw
The Ainu "preserved themselves" by living on the Asian Mainland while the Jomon lived on the Northern Japanese islands. Sometime in the 1300s the Emperor finally subdued the last of the Jomon and relocated them South to the main islands where they were turned into the Samurai and used against Southern kingdoms.

Once the Northern islands were pretty much depopulated, Ainu moved in.

97 posted on 03/13/2008 7:50:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam
Left out of this are the genetically related but culturally different Emeshi or Emishi ~ who lived in Northern Japan from time immemorial ~ and who were gradually whittled away by the Emperor, and assimilated into the South as a warrior class.

The Emeshi language, to the degree it can be identified in bits and pieces today, is substantially different from the Ainu languages which have a clear continental origin and relationship to other existing languages.

Once you recognize the existence of the Emeshi the whole structure becomes quite clear.

The Emperor's family are obviously of Sakha origin ~ their women have larger breasts than are common with any other group in Japan ~ just like those statue ladies in India!

98 posted on 03/13/2008 7:58:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The Samurai And The Ainu
99 posted on 03/13/2008 8:00:35 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: muawiyah

100 posted on 03/13/2008 8:03:33 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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