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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 14-18
Various | November 14, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/14/2003 2:06:57 AM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 8 - November 14-18)

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Link back to thread 7 (Nov. 11-14)

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Contained in Thread 7:

Radio interview with one of Michael's ex-girlfriends, transcript from CBS News Sunday Morning - Sunday 11-09-03 (Martha Teischner reports over a series of pre-recorded video clips in this news magazine's lead story...), possible link to collusion in the legal proceedings involving attorney George Felos (representing Michael Schiavo) and the neurologist Dr. Peter Bambakidis (court appointed, independent, examining physician), information on Judge Greer not being a judge, Tiger Bay Club Schiavo Debate Info, Michael Schiavo charged with perjured testimony, Michael Schiavo is this month's "black boot" award winner from conspiracyworld.com, Schiavo case timeline and 2 informative letters to Gov. Bush.

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Ckick on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

ATTENTION friends of Terri! I have been asked by the folks in Florida to post the following message:

PLEASE HONOR THIS REQUEST FROM TAMPA BAY, FLORIDA: DO NOT PUT NAME AND TOWN or other personal info of TERRI VOLUNTEERS in public posts on the Terri threads. If in doubt, DELETE THEIR NAME OUT!!! Please do not post personal addresses and phone #s, towns re: Terri's volunteers and her family. PLEASE SEND PEOPLE TO terrisfight.org for the Foundation Address. Thanks.

Many thanks to all of you who are helping keep FReepers and others up to date with information and for all your efforts in making this thread work. All the research, transcripts, prayers and contact information are invaluable. Special thanks to Calpernia for the header graphic.

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

Terri Schiavo, life insurance, and insurers duty to cancel if beneficiary is trying to kill insured

Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit

Oregon Bishop Speaks Out in the Case of Terri Schiavo

A thousand words about the Terri Schiavo you never knew

Florida governor, lawmakers defend 'Terri's Law'

Schiavo's case is really about religious right

Roy Moore:Media 'will not print the truth' (While this article isn't only about Terri, Judge Moore does address the issue in this interview)

Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: pc93
The Schindlers were saying something to the effect of getting Schiavo and Felos changing their strategy. I didn't really understand what they were saying....were they talking about in the present or in the past? Also, what is this now about Terri having an acquired cerebral palsy? This is the first I've heard of it. I got the impression that it was a recent dignosis and if so, how did they come by it if they can't have any of their doctors see her?
981 posted on 11/17/2003 7:07:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: nicmarlo; Graymatter; Republic
Thank you all for your reportage. Sounds like it went well, just too quickly.
982 posted on 11/17/2003 7:07:46 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: lonevoice
The second segment (the few minutes alloted after the commercial) were much better than the first segment (the other few minutes). Hannity was pulling them out. I also wonder if he talked to them off the air....telling them, we need you to help get your story out....now's not the time to be shy....speak, as much as you feel you are able. Please!
983 posted on 11/17/2003 7:12:23 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty; pc93
what is this now about Terri having an acquired cerebral palsy?

That one lost me.....

984 posted on 11/17/2003 7:14:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; lonevoice
My take-Mr. and Mrs Schindler appeared like 'any mom and dad USA' who have been thru hell. (I am imagining them trying to put years of court attempts to bring comfort and security to their suffering dtr all being closed down to a bit of time to make their case with flow and skill.)

They came across as unrehearsed and real.

Mrs Schindler was wearing a top and sweater, a deep purple or fuscia color, glassed and imperfect hair, just like a mom. Mr Shindler was wearing a suit, brownish, I believe, and kept his hands together in front of his chest, moving them a bit and obviously natural-not primed and perfected for a media appearance.

Their answers came firmly and with intensity.

They seemed to have to be careful over what they stated.

The father got in very important details-that an advocacy group was investigating Terri's abuse (I believe he meant her imprisonment). He said that Terri has had 'no stimulation, no therapy, no outings, a broken wheelchair and none since, that she is a virtual PRISONER'

And Mrs Schindler was asked by Alan about Terri having received therapy, and she clearly stated, and this was the end of the interview, that "Terri was taken to california and mediplex but after MS received the money award, all therapy STOPPED TEN YEARS AGO.

They looked sad but calm and real. Mrs Schindler bent her head down slightly after her last statement and I could feel her discouragement.

Mr. Schindler was asked earlier WHY the STATE is not doing something for Terri now and he responded-'That is a good question. I don't know.'

I am THANKFUL to Hannity and Colmes and Fox News for airing this segment.

Oh-and Sean also got in that MS had a long appearance on another show.

985 posted on 11/17/2003 7:15:09 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty; pc93
The Schindlers were saying something to the effect of getting Schiavo and Felos changing their strategy. I didn't really understand what they were saying...

That, I believe, was referring to the past spin v. current spin. To get the money, Terri's medical state was such that she was in PVS but could be helped. After Mikhell got the money, she was not able to be helped. She wouldn't want to live like that.

986 posted on 11/17/2003 7:16:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: pickyourpoison
One of the problems is even finding serious candidates to go against incumbents in Republican primaries. Primary voters seem to stick with incumbents more than 90 percent of the time. I guess that Greer-Baird-Demers-Rice-Crist all know that they are safe within their party contests.

In PA, Rep. Pat Toomey is trying to unseat the liberal Arlen Specter in an April 27 primary. Just getting a serious candidate against Specter was remarkable, much less finding one who can unseat an incumbent in a primary.
987 posted on 11/17/2003 7:19:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: nicmarlo
not sure
988 posted on 11/17/2003 7:20:42 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: nicmarlo
"They should change it from "News, fair and balanced" to "Iraq or Peterson, all the time."

How could you forget Kobe? I am really fed up with all of it. I wrote this letter to them last week....I don't know if you saw it or not. I posted it on another thread.

For several years, if I was home, the television was on and tuned to Fox News. The past couple of months, all that has changed. The reason: Kobe and Scott. Well, that's not entirely the reason, but they are the glaring synptom of a much more serious problem, and that is the picking and choosing of what gets reported. With all due respect, your priorities stink. In a year, 10 years, 20 years, nobody is even going to know who Scott Peterson and Kobe Bryant are, and most people wish they didn't know now. It is no wonder that America is such a mess when the top Cable News network thinks THAT is what is important in America today. Well, maybe it is if you're trying to appeal to the brainless wonders of the public school system whose idea of mental stimulation is MTV, but if you are trying to hold on to a reasonably intelligent audience, I would recommend you aim a little higher.

Our country is at war, our borders are being invaded, expressions of our faith are being driven underground, racism is not only being institutionalized, but enshrined, we have a judge in Florida passing a death sentence on a woman who has committed no crime while protecting the one who has committed crimes against her, democrats in congress can't open their mouths without undermining the president, we have traitors sitting on the Senate intelligence committee selling out national security in deference to their political ambitions and in the Senate, they can't seem get it through their pea brains that they are in the minority and use playground level bullying and childish temper tantrums to keep the president's judicial nominees from going to the floor for a vote because they object to the fact that these are judges who honor the Constitution instead of being judicial tyrants who hold the entire country hostage to the communist agenda of the likes of the ACLU and NAACP.

These are all issues that will impact ALL of our futures, and the futures of our children and grandchildren. These are issues whose disposition will determine the course of history for generations to come, but what do you talk about? Kobe and Scott. WHO CARES? I will get my news from Free Republic. I will still turn on Fox, and sometimes do when someone on Free Republic says there is something on worth hearing about and with which I am concerned as an American, but those times are getting less frequent all the time. I hate seeing Fox News go the way of the rest of the media, giving a platform to every fork-tongued, empty-headed blowhard with a belly full of hatred for everything American while virtually ignoring that these are the same people who are gnawing away the very fabric of our country. Is there anybody left in the media who has an objective relationship with the truth?

"Now back to our regularly scheduled program. In this episode, we will discuss the secret relationship between Scott Peterson and Kobe Bryant."

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Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Maybe I should have included this at the end....

989 posted on 11/17/2003 7:21:27 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Republic; lonevoice
I agree with your assessment of them, Republic. This truly is very tragic.

Just remembered another question asked by Alan about the Schindlers saying parents should have a say in their adult incapaciated children's medical decisions/getting the law changed:

Alan asked if they thought it would be "better" if parents were the guardians, not the spouse. She said no, not better. But, she said, MICHAEL HAD ONLY BEEN HER HUSBAND FOR 4 YEARS AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED. That Terri has always been their daughter. But they, as parents for all these years, have no rights, no ability to say anything about their own child.

990 posted on 11/17/2003 7:22:44 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Oh, ok. That was confusing.
991 posted on 11/17/2003 7:24:33 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: nicmarlo
The Schindlers said that Schiavo-Felos are arguing primarily that it is Terri's "wish" to die. Mr. Schindler said he could disprove that claim if given the chance.

The Schindlers did not get to say that much on Hannity/Colmes,and most of what they said has been said previously. They are in a position of being unable to rock the boat that much for fear that Schiavo will take away visitation again.

They did not mention the denied feeding lessons, which should help their case. They just could not touch that many bases.

When asked why the state (McCabe-Crist) will not investigate "abuse" in the case, they said they have no idea why FL will not investigate. I believe that the reason the state won't investigate is that most FL officials have coalesced to defend the George W. Greer court decision. The Schindlers, of course, can't say anything that would offend FL officials. They must walk on egg shells. It seems to me that FL officials are defending the concept of the "strong judiciary" as the principal vanguard of liberties. To me, such a judiciary is the foundation of tyranny.
992 posted on 11/17/2003 7:25:12 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty
most excellent, truthful letter! Way to go. I will send them another letter complaining about as much....I never received a response to my similar letter several weeks ago.
993 posted on 11/17/2003 7:26:52 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Oh, ok. That was confusing.

Yes, it was, but that was my impression of what they meant....but, I it's possible I'm wrong, too.

994 posted on 11/17/2003 7:29:08 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Republic
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that this Mom and Dad were able to speak about their child. We don't know who heard their words, but I pray that their heartbreak over their beloved Terri will be as Your word, that You will send it forth wherever You will, and that it will not return to You void. May someone, somewhere, be touched by their plight .. stir up this someone, somewhere, to a course of action that will completely destroy Michael's contention that Terri would want, and therefore, must die. Ease the pain in the hearts of these parents, Lord, as they continually seek the release from the prison in which their daughter now dwells.

Prosper those who are involved in investigating Michael's treatment of his wife .. let nothing remain hidden from them .. confuse the words of those who claim death for Terri is her wish .. let those of silken tongue be seen and heard as vulgar, ugly, merchants of death. Draw support to Terri's side .. vindicate her family as they give of themselves totally for their loved one. Protect her where she is until the day of her freedom .. may it be thus, Lord Jesus, in Your Name I pray, Amen ...

995 posted on 11/17/2003 7:32:13 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Republic
The short clip of MS getting in the car, was the driver Jodi the Tramp?
996 posted on 11/17/2003 7:36:00 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: sweetliberty
Tell you what I've been watching more and more as I watch FOX less and less: the Science Fiction channel. It's more relevant and real.
997 posted on 11/17/2003 7:38:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Pegita
Amen. I stand in agreement with your prayer.
998 posted on 11/17/2003 7:38:17 PM PST by Republic
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To: Chocolate Rose
The short clip of MS getting in the car, was the driver Jodi the Tramp?

Actually, that looked like Bushnell to me.
999 posted on 11/17/2003 7:38:57 PM PST by Micavaga
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To: nicmarlo
LOL!
1,000 posted on 11/17/2003 7:40:51 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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