Terri Schiavo Vigil Report / Action

floriduh voter ^ | 10/16/03 | freeper reports

[cyn]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MY NOTE: TERRI has been without water for longer than we knew -- 72 hrs. Gov. Bush -- Please act now and have faith! Our prayers continue to all involved in this, especially ‘behind the scenes’.

We are told to continue calls & emails -- please pass this on to mailing lists and friends.

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Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com
fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us
phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. Charlie Crist email -- ag@oag.state.fl.us
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564

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477 posted on 10/16/2003 6:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org) To 433
To: sfRummygirl; kimmie7; Ragtime Cowgirl; pc93; Ethan_Allen; JulieRNR21

Hi, friends. It's 9:50 p.m. Thursday night. The 24/7 Vigils since Tuesday have had at least several people for every hour since it began. I just came to report that much is going on behind the scenes and we have even more people at Hospice this evening. I hope everyone caught Hannity & Colmes. If not, please watch the replay later tonight if you can.

GOP and GWB Man has been here 24/7 and I've almost done the same. I met the lady from Not Dead Yet Organization and other folks who have flown in from other parts of the country to show support for Terri.

The message for tonight is KEEP CALLING GOVERNOR BUSH. That is the message I'm requesting until you hear otherwise from the front line at the Hospice Vigil. Oh, and keep praying. We are all sunburn and getting tired but we are standing with the Schindlers and they are feeling stronger because we are there for them around the clock.

Can't give any updates. If you've been watching tv or listening to the radio, you already realize that the media has woken up. THERE ARE SATELLITE TRUCKS, new people every day from all over the country, roses presented to us by a local florist, free food and beverages, the kindness of strangers is in abundance. I'll report back tomorrow. I'm going back to remain all night long. This is the biggest freep I've ever been to. The lawn in front of Hospice looks like your living rooms. We have moved in and are standing tall. God Bless America. God Bless Florida. FV

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To: summer

Summer, please tell everyone to have hope. We are attending the vigils everyday, even as Terri has missed three feedings. People should continue to call the Governor and their legislators which is in their phone books. Thank you so much, FV (back to the front lines).

P.S. There are also alternate freeps at the courthouse in Clearwater FL. People can get that address from phenn. Bye, back to Terri.

478 posted on 10/16/2003 6:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org) To 472

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(SNIP) ‘Mr. Schindler said he was not worried about his daughter's dying just yet. The feeding tube was removed once before, for 60 hours, he said, and she suffered no consequences.

"If it was 10 minutes to 2 on Sunday afternoon," Mr. Schindler said, "I'd be very, very concerned. She's good for the next three to four days." ‘

532 posted on 10/16/2003 10:22 PM PDT by summer To 530 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To: All
484 posted on 10/16/2003 7:26 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...) To 478

floriduh's report that Terri has not had three feedings is cause for increased prayer ... that translates to 72 hours, 12 hours beyond the time the first tube was reinserted. Terri's Dad on Sean's radio program today was using 60 hours as a benchmark before the body begins to break down.

Heavenly Father, I pray that You will be the strength that Terri needs during these hours ... cause her to withstand physically the onslaught that has gripped her ... comfort her parents, for they have walked this way before, but are now beyond the original time ... they are into new territory ... keep them hopeful, even as we are hopeful ... may they be sustained by our continuing prayer on their behalf, and for their beloved daughter.

Send relief, I pray, dear Father ... bring this child back from the brink, for I pray in the name of Jesus, Amen ...

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401 posted on 10/16/2003 7:31 AM PDT by SwordofTruth --

Without human medical intervention – the feeding tube - God would allow her to die.

Without food you would die as well. Terri can swallow and *HAS* already ate some pudding. She does not need the feeding tube to live, she probably never did.

Her "husband" wants her dead so she can't tell the world he tried to kill her.

Without your parents feeding you when you were a baby, you would have also died without intervention from God almighty.

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To: All
549 posted on 10/16/2003 10:40 PM PDT by kenth 549

There is a difference between guardianship and ownership. A person who is under guardianship still enjoys basic rights that are to be protected either by the state or the nation. In this case, the overriding law is a very basic one. It is the basic right to life, unable to be broken even because of physical disability.

The courts are completely disregarding Terri's basic protected right to life as stated unequivocally in the Florida Constitution, and are bestowing ownership to her husband. To be a guardian is to protect your charge, not be hell-bent on killing them. Ownership on the other hand denotes property that one can do with as they please.

Sorry folks, I'm not addressing any person in particular here. It's just late and we've been appalled at this injustice to one who is defenseless. There are rights and wrongs, and this is wrong.

The courts have decided, on hearsay of one side, that this woman is disabled and therefore may be put to death. This is not even the supreme court, and the hearsay is tainted by interests other than those of the victim. One irregularity would be distressing, two, a cause for alarm, but the sheer number of factors actively working against Terri is unfathomable; from judges, lawyers and media with right-to-die agendas to husbands with financial, adulterous and criminal interests, to ignorance of the masses...

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Jeb Bush email -- Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com
fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us
phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. CHarlie Crist email -- ag@oag.state.fl.us
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564

IF YOU ARE CONVINCED AS I AM THAT THIS IS ABUSE -- THEN call the FL abuse hotline (info to follow)

[Theodore R.]

Thanks for all your work, but it seems not to impress Jeb Bush, the only person who can do anything to stop a murder and seemingly is hesitant to do so. No matter how much evidence is put forward by so many diligent posters here, Jeb says it is insufficient for him to intervene. He keeps talking about "our courts." Not too long ago he even said there was "no evidence" that Schiavo had abused his role as guardian, despite all the testimony to the contrary. Jeb in his brief called Terri a "PVS" case, incorrect of course.

When Schiavo verbally attacked Jeb in September, the governor said nothing. Similarly, when George W. Greer ridiculed him, he said nothing.

Now he says his lawyers cannot determine whether he can intervene.

Is he "Hamlet"? Or is the line from "Macbeth" more appropriate: "Macbeth, doth murder sleep?"

I don't see how he can look at his handsome face in the mirror if he lets Terri die?

[ironmaidenPR2717]

My first post - bear with me :)

re: Michael Schiavo's Mercedes....

My thoughts are that Michael (and Felos) already have a lucrative "Right to Die" book contract and if he does have a new Mercedes, its the result of his first advance.

[Theodore R.]

Well it seems to me that George W. Greer must be popular in the Tampa Bay area, or Jeb would not be so hesitant to take action. He can intervene on the grounds of fraud in the court decision. He can sort out the niceities later. George W. Greer was elected on the same day that Jeb was. And George W. Bush lost Pinellas Co., whereas Greer won the plebiscite two years earlier. So he is at least as popular as George W. Bush there.

People in FL seem to vote routinely for liberal judges, probably based on name recognition, rather than knowledge of the candidate's judicial philosophy.

[sc2_ct]

Okay, I may have missed this, but how did they skip so many feedings? Is that not in direct violation of the order, which allowed the tube removed? I just wish I could meet this son of a bitch on a steet corner on a cold dark night with no witnesses.

[Ethan_Allen]

FEDERAL LAW ON HOSPICE:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/law.html



(j) Standard: Meal service, menu planning, and supervision. The
hospice must--
**(1) Serve at least three meals or their equivalent each day at
regular times, with not more than 14 hours between a substantial evening
meal and breakfast;
(2) Procure, store, prepare, distribute, and serve all food under
sanitary conditions;
(3) Have a staff member trained or experienced in food management or
nutrition who is responsible for--
(i) Planning menus that meet the nutritional needs of each patient,
following the orders of the patient's physician and, to the extent
medically possible, the recommended dietary allowances of the Food and
Nutrition Board of the National Research Council, National Academy of
Sciences (Recommended Dietary Allowances (9th ed., 1981) is available
from the Printing and Publications Office, National Academy of Sciences,
Washington, DC 20418); and

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[Ferret Fawcet]

How can they not even give her swallowing tests. She swallows her own saliva with no problem- if this was not the case I'd think they'd have to get her on some kind of suction.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Is this from the latest press conference. I read somplace there was going ot be a press conference. That was hours ago though.

[Ethan_Allen]

That's another thing I want to know, as well. They said that the fact that she does not drool is proof that she is able to swallow. A FReeper was on a few nights ago, and they finally brought his father around by putting a drop of ice cream on his tongue. Apparently his father always loved ice cream! It worked! It is obvious except to most thinking people who do not have their vision and minds clouded by 'our courts' and the 'rule of law', that Terri is NOT PVS, would probably love to have a bite to eat and a glass of water to drink. The plan for Terri is also clear: she must die to serve Machiavelian agendas. May fire come down from heaven.....

EVIDENCE OF ABUSE OF TERRI - HOSPICE AND HUSBAND CONSPIRE TO KILL TERRI

http://www.hospicepatients.org/hosp-conspires-to-kill-terri---father-s-plea-for-treatment-3-18-03-ltr.html

[Ethan_Allen]

Pegita, praying your prayer at #91. It sounds Divinely inspired.

[Pegita]

+ To God be the Glory ...

[trustandobey]

Is there no hope then?

[Budge]

I just spoke with an aid to Gov. Bush, neither he or his secretary where in. However, the aid said she would pass along a brief messsage.

I told her to please tell the governor that by not interfering it is too much like the old Soviet Union, not America.

[spectre]

My Dad..thank you for remembering.

Just a bit of ice-cream, the size of a pea, so he wouldn't asperiate, and it worked! They gave up on him. We didn't.

sw (spectre's wife)

[SeattleTiger]

I still have not seen news of the press conference. I did see this sad article, which makes me think all parties who might call a conference are engaged in the legal fight:

Florida governor can't intervene in case of woman in coma-like state

Parayers and good thoughts for Terri and her parents continue here in the northwest.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I guess it is better to be in a battle than have a flat no.

[Ethan_Allen]

Bless you. Pardon my bad memory, for not remembering who. I've heard so many touching stories here the past few weeks. I have never felt so connected to FReepers. I have heard so many tales of hardship such as one FReeper who says she is dying of cancer. I wanted to go back and respond, but I lost the thread. I will go back and save all the Terri threads, and hopefully be able to touch base with some who fell through the cracks for me. I want you all to know, though, that I love you all, am praying for all of us, and I keep praying that God is working a mighty miracle. We will see. Keep up the faith, and keep praying. Whenever two or more.....

[Ethan_Allen]

"+ To God be the Glory....."

"Sustain her~protect her~hold her safe until her hour of deliverance"

Neh 9:21Yea, forty years didst thou sustain them in the wilderness, [so that] they lacked nothing; their clothes waxed not old, and their feet swelled not. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Neh/9/21.html


Exd 9:17 As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/9/17.html


Eze 31:18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with [them that be] slain by the sword. This [is] Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze031.html#18

[SeattleTiger]

Terri's parents are warriors, no doubt about it. It is completely bizarre to me that one judge, one attorney, and one husband can combine to put an innocent to death -- while those who have some possibility of intervening stand passively by.

I understand the importance of the rule of law. I do not understand why bureaucrats sit and watch when something as wrong as this continues. Terri does not have to die for somene to recognize that classifying food and water as artificial life support is a bad policy and that the law has overreached and become what should be unenforceable.

Selective interpretation of artificial life support + selective interpretation of PVS + not only disconnecting the tube, but REFUSING to allow anyone to try to feed her or provide her with water = Innocent blood on the hands of those who made or let this happen.

Still hoping for a miracle.

[isrul]

I just spoke with an aid to Gov. Bush, neither he or his secretary where in. However, the aid said she would pass along a brief messsage.

Gone for the weekend? Get back to you on Monday after he checks his messages?

[Dave S]

Is it possible that there could be a conflict between what the outside legal team thinks is permissible, and what Jeb's own counsel believes is permissible?

And what the state attorney general says is permissible.