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Rush Limbaugh Warns: America Could Be ‘Trending Toward Secession’
The Political Insider ^ | 12.10.20 | RUSTY WEISS

Posted on 12/10/2020 1:57:27 PM PST by TPIDerek

Conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh believes the political landscape in America makes it possible that the nation is “trending toward secession.”

“I actually think that we’re trending toward secession,” Limbaugh surmised. “I see more and more people asking what in the world do we have in common with the people who live in, say, New York?”

“What is there that makes us believe that there is enough of us there to even have a chance at winning New York, especially if you’re talking about votes?”

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1 posted on 12/10/2020 1:57:27 PM PST by TPIDerek
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To: TPIDerek

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2 posted on 12/10/2020 1:57:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More like there, right about now.

And, I am not sure that either side would be sorry to see the other go.


3 posted on 12/10/2020 2:00:08 PM PST by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: TPIDerek

I will never “unite” under a tyranny, especially a tyranny that came to power through election fraud.


4 posted on 12/10/2020 2:01:58 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More like the people in the blue states have domain over the red states. They have direct control over red states lives without repercussions.


5 posted on 12/10/2020 2:03:49 PM PST by DownInFlames (Ga)
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To: Fai Mao

And, I am not sure that either side would be sorry to see the other go.

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We are no longer united and there are irreconcilable differences.

We want freedom and liberty. They want control and power.

There is simply no bridging that gap.


6 posted on 12/10/2020 2:04:20 PM PST by Starboard
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To: TPIDerek

Love Rush Limbaugh, secession is unlikely and Unconstitutional. See the Civil War.

And wouldn’t the farm or suburban areas also need to secede from the cities in each state?


7 posted on 12/10/2020 2:04:34 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: TPIDerek; E. Pluribus Unum; Fai Mao

Rush denied this allegation at the opening of today’s show, Here is the entire opening transcript:

I’m Not Advocating for Secession!
Dec 10, 2020

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/12/10/im-not-advocating-for-seccesion/

RUSH: So yesterday on this program I’m minding my own business, I literally was minding my own business. I was executing assigned host duties flawlessly. I had yet to make a mistake, and then out of the blue I get a question from the program observer, the Official Program Observer, Mr. Snerdley. And the question that I got from Mr. Snerdley was, “Are we ever gonna be able to win again?” And I didn’t know what he meant by that. He said, “Well, are we ever gonna win Pennsylvania, are we ever gonna win some of these blue places?”

And I said, “I thought you meant, are we gonna win the culture back, are we going to become dominant and beat back the left and the cultural rot that they bring us.” And that’s when I said, just trying to answer a question — I get asked questions, and I have this fatal flaw, I actually try to answer them. And most people don’t. Most people evade, they get into doublespeak. I answer the questions I’m asked. So Snerdley says, “Do you ever think we’re gonna win?” And I said, “I actually think –” and I’ve referenced this, I have alluded to this a couple times because I’ve seen others allude to this. And I’ve seen quite a few people allude to this over the course of the recent months, maybe six months. I said, “I think we could be trending toward secession.”

Now, that’s not the answer Mr. Snerdley thought he was gonna get. I said, “I see more and more people asking what in the world do we have in common with people that disagree with us? Where’s the overlap?” And you know that I’ve referenced this. How many times have I asked you, what is the overlap? What is it that people on the left, people on the right, is there an overlap? Is there anything we have in common? And it doesn’t look like there is.

How can Make America Great Again be controversial? The fact that Make America Great Again is controversial and riles people up should tell you all you need to know about how much we have in common. And then I mentioned that I have seen, I don’t know how many people, responsible people — I haven’t named any names here, but they’re certainly not hiding behind their comments. I’ve seen it written on Twitter. I’ve seen it written on various blogs — Hot Air, Power Line — how distant and separated, how much more separated our culture is becoming politically.

And I’ve seen people speculate that there cannot be a peaceful coexistence of two completely different theories of life, theories of government, theories of how we manage our affairs. That we can’t be in this dire a conflict without something giving somewhere along the way. And then I reiterated that I know that there’s a sizable and growing sentiment for people who believe that we’re headed, whether we want to get there or not, secession.

Now, I didn’t advocate for it. I never would advocate for secession. I’m simply repeating what I have heard. Well now that has gone viral, apparently. It has gone viral that I’m advocating for secession. And I want to read something to you here from Frieda Powers. She’s writing at BizPac Review. It’s just a little paragraph. It’s all on this that I just shared with you.

She says, “Though Limbaugh clearly stated he thinks the nation is ‘trending toward secession’ and was not advocating for a split, the left jumped on the remarks to bash him for everything from ‘sedition’ to ‘treason.’ Talk of ‘civil war’ found its way onto Twitter where the phrase was trending, mainly triggered by the ongoing-election battle, but also many on the social media platform accused Limbaugh of saying something he didn’t.”

That is the key. I have been accused — and this is nothing new, either — I’ve been accused of saying something I didn’t say. In this case, I have not, did not, and would not advocate for secession. You people know what I’m about. How many times have I said it? The objective here is a gigantic army of informed voters who win elections, that we have to have political victory, that we have to beat them back politically at the ballot box.

That’s been my entire reason for being here and in the process informing and educating people about what liberalism is and what communism is, and what socialism is so they’ll be properly informed and be able to reject it, which is crucially important right now because more and more people are signing on to it, more and more people think socialism is great, we just haven’t tried it right, done the right people, haven’t had enough money behind it, and all of that.

So, if any of you have been caught up in all this, if you get in a Twitter war and this and that and the other thing, I simply referenced what I have seen other people say about how we are incompatible as currently divided and that secession is something that people are speculating about. I am not advocating it, have not advocated it, never have advocated it, and probably wouldn’t.

In 32 years, that’s not the way I’ve decided to go about handling disagreements with people on the left. I just think they need to be beaten. They need to be defeated. How many times over and over, they need to be defeated? And in more than one election. So, anyway, that’s that. I wanted to get that out of the way and clear it up for anybody who is under any kind of a misunderstanding.

RUSH: We’re having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have here, despite the fact that people on the left for 30 years continue to make things up about me. They continue to put words in my mouth that were never there, that I never said.

I just got a note from my brother. “I’d love to clock these people.” Yeah, we all would, but how do we stop it? This is a case in point. You can’t stop it. There’s no way you can stop it. All you can do, in my case we got the archives to go back and prove them wrong. The real reason this is a big deal is because it’s right here in this headline, at BizPac Review, and there’s all kinds of stories on this. “Rush Limbaugh Hits A Nerve, Believes America Is Likely Heading ‘Toward Secession.’”

Never advocated for it, never promoted it, never said that I think it’s a good thing, never got close to that. Yet that’s what’s all over social media, that I’m leading the movement for it, that I’m in charge of it, that I think it ought to happen and I want to knock the left’s heads all over the country, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it hit a nerve. Why did it hit a nerve? What is it about this that hits a nerve? Mr. Snerdley, why did this hit a nerve? (interruption) Hm-hm. (interruption) That’s exactly right. Because there is a deep division in this country that nobody has a solution for. Nobody has a solution for it.

It’s really no more complicated than this. How do we go about growing our ranks? How do we do it? Those of us on the right. We trying to persuade, do we not? We enter into discussions, call them debates, if you will. But throughout the year, even years that there are not elections, we are constantly attempting, like on this program and Fox News and elsewhere, to articulate the superiority of what we believe, ’cause we believe it’s the best for the most.

We believe conservatism, economically, is the best for the most. We believe that conservatism, culturally, is by far the best for the most. But we’re not bullies. We don’t force it on anybody. We’re not intolerant. We do not tell people who disagree with us to shut up. We don’t burn down their businesses. We don’t riot or loot their businesses. We don’t shoot them. We don’t go out and get in their faces, destroy their property, and tell ’em they have to agree with us or else. We don’t tell them they can’t come to various universities and go to school there.

No. We engage in the arena of ideas. It’s where we’ve always been. We engage in the arena of ideas, and we do it in the hopes that we, with consistency and time, will persuade millions of people to join us, to see it our way. Without the use of force, without the power of government behind us, without making any kind of demands, we simply articulate what we believe to be the best, and we come up with ways we hope are pervasive that will cause people to agree with us.

President Trump has had amazing success with this. If you look at his election returns in the 2020 election, look at the support he got from African-Americans. Look at the support he got from Hispanics. He even got an uptick in support from women in certain parts of the country. How’d this happen? Well, he was out doing campaign rallies up to five times a day. And people were watching.

He also, in addition to what he was saying in terms of being persuasive, he had a record. He was actually implementing policies very favorable to those groups. They were made aware of it. So this was, for lack of a better term, this was the art of persuasion. This is how we go about growing our ranks. Now, a lot of people on our side are getting very impatient with this, by the way. They think it’s too slow, that it’s too inefficient, it’s not succeeding with enough people.

How does the left go about it? We’re trying to find areas of commonality here. So how does the left go about growing their ranks? Well, the one thing they don’t do, they don’t enter the arena of ideas with the intention of winning debates or with the intention of persuading people that their view is right. What do they do? They enter the arena of ideas as bullies. And their primary objective is to silence us, not debate us, not to prove that their beliefs are superior. ‘Cause they’re not, and they can’t.

So they bully people into submission. They frighten people. They are intimidating people. At the ballot box, no matter where you go, the left is there to scare you and to frighten you to try to intimidate you into shutting up. They resent the idea that they even have to win elections. They resent the idea that they have to even play in the arena of ideas. That, to them, is something that’s beneath them. So there’s nothing in common about how we even seek to grow our ranks. They’re not interested in being right. They’re not interested in prevailing in any kind of debate. They just want to use force and intimidation and bullying tactics to get people who disagree with them to shut up, to not stand up for what they believe. That’s how they go about it.

So in these two scenarios, tell me where we have anything in common, other than the objective? But I would say even the objective could be iffy. The left is not really trying to grow its ranks. They don’t think they should have to. The left is interested in ruling. Whether there 10% of the population or whether they’re 40%, they want to rule. And they will go about achieving that however they can. But it’s not about entering the arena of ideas to persuade people to join them. If it happens, it’s icing on the cake. But where is there anything in common there, folks? I don’t see it. And that’s just one little area. There’s all kinds of — go issue by issue, go policy by policy, ask yourself what we have in common, and you will not find much overlap.

It used to not be the case. It used to be that, you know, you go back to the forties, World War II, even the sixties with Vietnam, there was something, there was at least something that if America was attacked we came together. That may not be the case now. And that’s why there are people who I hear talking about secession as a natural outgrowth of the rift and the partisanship and the distancing that is occurring between the various ideological theories that are governing American politics today. No more complicated than that.

RUSH: “Many on the social media platform accused Limbaugh of saying something he didn’t.” That could be something that is one of these things that’s always attached to you as you go through life. “Saying something he didn’t. Limbaugh accused. Limbaugh attacked. Limbaugh attempted to be destroyed of saying something he didn’t.


8 posted on 12/10/2020 2:05:06 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: TPIDerek

Civil War, Version 2.0 is more likely than succession; living next to these Demonic Party scum would be the equivalent of living next to PLO or any other terrorist-run territory... only way to win is vanquishing the enemy.


9 posted on 12/10/2020 2:05:57 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: TPIDerek

“America Could Be ‘Trending Toward Secession”

Jeeze, why can’t Rush just shut up. “America” is not heading towards secession, just Texas and 17 other states.

I wish he’d be more careful with his words.


10 posted on 12/10/2020 2:06:56 PM PST by BobL (I'm Boycotting the Georgia Elections to 'Teach the GOP a Lesson' (by destroying the country))
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To: DownInFlames

More like the people in the blue states have domain over the red states.

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Yet people are leaving blue states in droves.

Nobody is leaving red states.


11 posted on 12/10/2020 2:07:11 PM PST by Starboard
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To: TPIDerek

Just start a new country and give people the choice of which one they want to pay federal taxes to and receive benefits from. End of discussion, not many who talk about secession will give up their social security, medicare, etc.


12 posted on 12/10/2020 2:07:21 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: TPIDerek

I’ve been asking for 4 years, what in hell do you do with people who hate America, hate our flag, hate white people, hate our monuments, hate our holidays, hate the cops, hate our religions, our rights, hate our freedoms etc?


13 posted on 12/10/2020 2:08:29 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Fai Mao

“And, I am not sure that either side would be sorry to see the other go.”

You don’t know the hard-left like I do. BIG PROBLEM for them if Texas and other conservative states leave - the government in DC will NOT be able to exact their REVENGE on us.

So they will fight tooth-and-nail to keep us, and we better be ready for just that.


14 posted on 12/10/2020 2:09:08 PM PST by BobL (I'm Boycotting the Georgia Elections to 'Teach the GOP a Lesson' (by destroying the country))
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To: Williams

What I see more likely is that we won’t have a Civil War, mostly oppression and “terrorism” at best as the media will refer to it.


15 posted on 12/10/2020 2:09:58 PM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: bigbob

You can collect your Soc Sec living outside of the US but you are not covered by Medicare.

For those who are touting the “Texit” they might be surprised after most of the Medicare recipients leave (or are deported) that the electorate looks rather blue. Especially after another number of years of California move-ins.


16 posted on 12/10/2020 2:10:02 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Williams

“Love Rush Limbaugh, secession is unlikely and Unconstitutional.”

Assuming the Supreme Court throws out this case, then it’s hard to see why the Constitution should apply to Texas.


17 posted on 12/10/2020 2:10:09 PM PST by BobL (I'm Boycotting the Georgia Elections to 'Teach the GOP a Lesson' (by destroying the country))
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To: TPIDerek

I think secession, ie the US breaking up into several regions would be BY FAR the least harmful and least disruptive of all the potential futures I can imagine at this point. I think the only attachment that most people have to the 48 contigious states being “one land for all of us” is purely sentimental and it never withstands scrutiny.
Examples abound, but if you’re a farmer in western Kansas, how do you think that angry leftist school teacher yelling at protesters at a demonstration in Portland feels about you? And vice versa? Literally, nothing in common. Contempt on all sides.
It’s the most peaceful solution to the present polarized sides. And it would undoubtedly result in many (a dozen? More) alternatives from which people could choose their degree of freedom. Pick your poison, so to speak.


18 posted on 12/10/2020 2:10:40 PM PST by 2big2fail
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To: TPIDerek

Hey Rush, in case you haven’t noticed, we’ve been a divided nation for some time now, Buddy. They used to call it a culture war. It’s really a war between Leftist Marxist Totalitarianism and America’s Free Constitutional Republic.

What? Are you afraid if our good fight for freedom comes to blows? It you’re a lover of faith and freedom you won’t be afraid if blood must be shed. It already has.

Not sure your message bolsters the morale of Patriotic Freedom Fighters. It shouldn’t be a “warning”, but a clarion call , “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death.”


19 posted on 12/10/2020 2:10:52 PM PST by Jim W N (uestion is how badly di the corrupt TDominion softer)
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To: TPIDerek

I can see some form of secession happening in America long before a literal 2nd Civil War.
To paraphrase Dennis Rodman: “Don’t nobody want WAR! Not really.”


20 posted on 12/10/2020 2:11:03 PM PST by lee martell
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