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To: TPIDerek

Love Rush Limbaugh, secession is unlikely and Unconstitutional. See the Civil War.

And wouldn’t the farm or suburban areas also need to secede from the cities in each state?


7 posted on 12/10/2020 2:04:34 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

What I see more likely is that we won’t have a Civil War, mostly oppression and “terrorism” at best as the media will refer to it.


15 posted on 12/10/2020 2:09:58 PM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: Williams

“Love Rush Limbaugh, secession is unlikely and Unconstitutional.”

Assuming the Supreme Court throws out this case, then it’s hard to see why the Constitution should apply to Texas.


17 posted on 12/10/2020 2:10:09 PM PST by BobL (I'm Boycotting the Georgia Elections to 'Teach the GOP a Lesson' (by destroying the country))
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To: Williams

Not unconstitutional.
Read some US history from early 19th century.
There was significant worry that Massachusetts (for example) would secede. And i think there were other episodes.
“Unconstitutional” is a bullshit word. Homosexual “marriage” is constitutional? It wasn’t until it was.


39 posted on 12/10/2020 2:26:04 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Williams

No, you don’t need to make nice with the cities in a secession. The whole state goes for us. And no, it’s not unconstitutional and it also doesn’t matter if it is. Founders wrote armed revolution for the sake of liberty into our blood.


45 posted on 12/10/2020 2:28:23 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Williams

When you’re talking secession, whether it is constitutional or not is moot. Frankly, whoever wins the shooting war gets to decide whether it was constitutional or not.

But, as the right of self-determination is the most fundamental principle underpinning the Constitution itself, arguing that it isn’t constitutional is the same as arguing that the Constitution isn’t valid in the first place.


52 posted on 12/10/2020 2:34:09 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Williams

Thats the point of the lawsuit. If states executive officers don’t have to follow the Constitution than neither do we. GAME ON!


63 posted on 12/10/2020 2:58:27 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Williams

It was also illegal when we separated from UK. Secession failed because the North had the capacity to beat the South into submission and keep them there. That is not the case these days. Soy fags, queers and antifa types vs “the good ole boys”


74 posted on 12/10/2020 3:21:46 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Either its shooting time, or we take the long hard path, and force the GOP to Whig out. )
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To: Williams

> Unconstitutional

Name me one nation-state in all of history that thought it legal for part of its territory to declare independence.


77 posted on 12/10/2020 3:40:04 PM PST by shaven_llama
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To: Williams

Right, well, lets have the civil war over with and may the winner take all!

I like the chances of the side with over 400,000,000 guns and trillions of rounds of ammo.

“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”


94 posted on 12/10/2020 4:10:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: Williams
Love Rush Limbaugh, secession is unlikely and Unconstitutional. See the Civil War.

And how, exactly, is secession illegal? The "Civil War" was not a civil war - it was a conflict between two sovereign nations, one of whom was trying to subjugate the other. A civil war is when two (or more) factions are fighting for control of the same government. And, up until that point, secession was never questioned as a power belonging to the States. It was only after the war that Dems Repubs tried to find a not-too-convoluted explanation for why secession wasn't allowed, indeed, why ~650M people had to die to bring back several States that did so. And yet, there's still no clear legal theory under the Constitution for how a State is unable to ever leave.


And wouldn’t the farm or suburban areas also need to secede from the cities in each state?

You are 100% correct, and therein lies the rub. If a Harris admin really does happen and possibly causes a secession movement, it's not just gonna be 30ish States. it's gonna end up being those States, plus 75% of the remaining States, since the newly formed Union would have no reason to NOT allow those sections to leave the USSA and join up. The most likely end is the old USA borders - we'll call it RoTPEE in any further conversation (Republic of Texas Plus Everyone Else) - minus 20-30 city-states within her borders.


109 posted on 12/10/2020 6:59:00 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Williams

We can vote to divide the country. Both sides would be better off...


120 posted on 12/11/2020 4:15:46 AM PST by GOPJ (Joseph Stalin:"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.)
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To: Williams

I can live in France withouting being a French citizen - but I can’t vote in their elections.

It would be the same with dividing our country.

For example Florida is a red state - and if a democrat wanted to continue living in Florida after the split, they could. But they would NOT be able to vote and they would have to live under the laws of OUR COUNTRY.

If a conservative wanted to live in New York, they would have to pay New York taxes, have their guns confiscated, and their children ‘educated’ in left-wing propaganda centers.

My guess is after a few decades the issue would solve itself. I don’t want to live in a country made into a hellhole by liberals. They don’t want to live in a country with free sp...eech...

It’s time to divide the country


121 posted on 12/11/2020 4:25:31 AM PST by GOPJ (Joseph Stalin:"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.)
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