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Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency
Current Affairs ^ | February 23, 2016 | Nathan J. Robinson

Posted on 02/23/2016 7:03:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With Donald Trump looking increasingly likely to actually be the Republican nominee for President, it's long past time for the Democrats to start working on a pragmatic strategy to defeat him. Months of complacent, wishful insistences that Trump will disappear have proven false, and with a firm commanding lead in polls and several major primary victories, predictions are increasingly favoring Trump to win the nomination. If Democrats honestly believe, as they say they do, that Trump poses a serious threat to the wellbeing of the country and the lives of minority citizens, that means doing everything possible to keep him out of office. To do that will require them to very quickly unite around a single goal, albeit a counterintuitive one: they must make absolutely sure that Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee for President.

The electability question should be at the center of the Democratic primary. After all, elections are about winning, and high-minded liberal principles mean nothing if one has no chance of actually triumphing in a general election. Hillary Clinton has been right to emphasize that the pragmatic achievement of goals should be the central concern of a presidential candidate, and that Bernie Sanders's supporters often behave as if this is immaterial....

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TOPICS: Arkansas; New York; Vermont; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; democrats; election2016; hillary; hillary2016; newyork; sanders; trump
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1 posted on 02/23/2016 7:03:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RCP averages polls bears this out — ALL the GOP candidates poll much better against Hillary than they do against Sanders.


2 posted on 02/23/2016 7:07:30 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would think Sanders would be easier to beat than Hillary, but in this ass backwards nation, who knows anymore?


3 posted on 02/23/2016 7:09:26 PM PST by Angels27
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. I expect many Sanders voters may vote for Trump if they perceive the Fix was in all along. Seems that way.


4 posted on 02/23/2016 7:10:22 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Sanders is harder to beat than Clinton, he has a lot of enthusiastic support among the young.


5 posted on 02/23/2016 7:14:09 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see any way Bernie survives in key swing states like Ohio or Florida. If a general election focuses more attention on his radical lunacy, I don’t see it being close.


6 posted on 02/23/2016 7:14:33 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to surveys, Trump is the only GOP candidate who would lose to Hillary, so I’d say that if Trump is the GOP candidate, the Dems’ only hope is to run Bernie.

In that case, Bernie would probably win, because Trump and Sanders are both lefty statists but Bernie is promising even more freebies to a larger group.


7 posted on 02/23/2016 7:19:15 PM PST by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In truth, neither Sanders nor Clinton can beat Trump’s powerful nationalism/patriotism/law-&-order platform, because both offer no alternative, just insults. But let leftist media indulge in their fantasies, we’ll still crush them like cockroaches on election day.

The problem for Bernie is he’s getting ripped-off big-time by the Democratic Party’s insider dirty tricks designed to insure Hillary wins. Like the 6 rigged coin tosses in IA (and let’s be honest, of course they were rigged, nobody wins 6 in a row, even in Vegas) or the pre-arranged card deck in NV where, surprise surprise, Hillary draws the unbeatable ace .... what a joke.

But then, what we all really want to see is Hillary and her conspiracy of lies utterly demolished and sent sent to the rubbish pile by Trump, so .... go Hillary! Go sacrificial beast!! You choked in 2008, and 2016 will be a repeat performance.


8 posted on 02/23/2016 7:20:59 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine the Donald looking very presidential in his usual impeccable suit and tie opposite Bolshevik Bernie, the guy who always looks like he slept in his car
Imagine craggy Bernie making trump look young and strong
Now imagine the rhetoric of lifetime communist who never built anything but wants to make everything free
vs a guy who wants to be America’s Daddy Warbucks

Not even close


9 posted on 02/23/2016 7:21:06 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Bernie is my preferred alternative to Rubio. Against Trump he stands no change. I hope Hillary stands no chance either. What would really keep me home from the polls would be Hillary - Rubio. Actually, on the principal that GOPeee delenda est, I would hold my nose close my eyes and vote for Hillary. But it is a tough call.

GOPee needs to get a message. They are over. They are done. Not jucy and tender done, but tough charred to a cinder done.

10 posted on 02/23/2016 7:21:25 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: livius

Bloomberg says he will run if Bernie and Trump are the two nominees. He could win if he can mobilize the votes of everyone who wants the government to protect them from the temptation to drink 24-ounce Cokes.


11 posted on 02/23/2016 7:22:29 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Like the 6 rigged coin tosses in IA (and let’s be honest, of course they were rigged, nobody wins 6 in a row, even in Vegas)

Oh I don't no. Sounds like one of those tricks by the Nonsuch in Tom Sawyer to rope in the rubes. See, watch right here, you too can be a big winner. Six in a row - no problem, step right up and put your money on the winning number.

12 posted on 02/23/2016 7:24:16 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Angels27

I agree. The old political rules of thumb upon which we instinctively and reflexively relied during our lifetimes as amateur political scientists are gone with the wind. I find my old instincts which had served me so well for so long, as just so yesterday.


13 posted on 02/23/2016 7:27:02 PM PST by huckfillary
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To: Verginius Rufus
[Bloomberg] can mobilize the votes of everyone who wants the government to protect them from the temptation to drink 24-ounce Cokes.

And to protect them against the likes of Keith Richards and Ron Wood wielding cigarettes on stage.

14 posted on 02/23/2016 7:30:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats are insistently repeating their belief that a Trump nomination will mobilize liberals to head to the polls like never before, but with nobody particularly enthusiastic for Clinton's candidacy, it's not implausible that a large number of people will find both options so unappealing that they stay home.

There's a third option, Nate, ol' buddy, and I can see why you don't want to mention it. That's that they might just be so tired of the incessant Hillary crime schtick that they'll vote for The Donald. That's what the Dems are really afraid of.

And frankly, I don't see Bernie The Bolshevik appealing to a broad enough demographic to go toe to toe with anyone left on the Republican slate. Bush could have beaten him.

15 posted on 02/23/2016 7:32:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: canuck_conservative

“But then, what we all really want to see is Hillary and her conspiracy of lies utterly demolished and sent sent to the rubbish pile by Trump, so .... go Hillary! Go sacrificial beast!! You choked in 2008, and 2016 will be a repeat performance.”

we can only hope and pray for this outcome. But, do you think all those countries, institutions and wealthy people who have donated so generously to the Clinton Global Initiative are going to let a little thing like the honest counting of votes stand in the way of a big return on their investment? i’m afraid not. if we felt voter fraud was big in 2012, just wait until you see the tsunami of fraud that sweeps Hilliary into office in 2016.


16 posted on 02/23/2016 7:44:11 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article and comments. Democrats ‘must make absolutely sure that Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee for President.’

If Sanders is the nominee, then Trump probably wins by a lot, since Bernie is boring and stupid.

If Clinton is the nominee, then Trump probably wins by a little, since women will automatically vote for a woman.


17 posted on 02/23/2016 7:44:39 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fun read. The writer, a smirky lefty, is about to wet himself at the thought of Hillary having to face the Donald.
18 posted on 02/23/2016 7:47:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ilgipper
"I don't see any way Bernie survives in key swing states like Ohio or Florida. If a general election focuses more attention on his radical lunacy, I don't see it being close."

Ohio went for Odumbass twice...

Ohio has slowly turned Blue.

19 posted on 02/23/2016 7:50:10 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: IWONDR

There are limits to how much voting fraud you can get away with. A few percentage points difference, yes, it can be done.

But if Trump is blowing out Hillary by 10, 15, 20%, that difference cannot be covered by fraud without it becoming obvious. And this election could very well be headed in that direction, especially given that already 70% of voters don’t trust Hillary - then throw in months of coming relentless negative ads hitting Hillary’s (many) vulnerable spots - even fraud won’t be able to save Hillary.


20 posted on 02/23/2016 7:54:04 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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