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Scientists Listened Inside the Sun and Discovered Something Unexpected
Earth.com ^ | Eric Ralls

Posted on 05/30/2026 10:51:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The Sun runs on an 11-year cycle of rising and falling activity, tracked mainly by counting sunspots – the dark patches scattered across its surface.

Solar Cycle 25, the current cycle, was forecast as mild, and the sunspot count agreed.

But those counts read only the surface. A global network of six telescopes has listened to the Sun’s interior for nearly 40 years, and what it is now telling researchers is not what the surface suggested at all.

Listening inside the Sun Scientists have a name for eavesdropping on those sound waves: helioseismology.

The waves are trapped inside the Sun, and as its magnetic activity climbs, the pitch of that ringing edges upward, then settles back as things calm down.

Professor Bill Chaplin of the University of Birmingham led an international team that put almost 40 years of this listening to work.

The team;s recordings come from six telescopes spread around the world, running from 1987 to 2025.

Those instruments form a network known as BiSON, and together they have caught four full turns of the solar cycle. Each rise and fall of the Sun’s activity marks the pitch of that ringing.

What the surface shows The usual way to gauge the Sun leans on what we can see directly. Counting sunspots – the dark, cooler patches where magnetic fields bunch up – is the oldest method, joined by readings of the Sun’s radio output.

Astronomers have kept that sunspot count for centuries, and it has long been the yardstick for how stormy our star is. By it, the current cycle, the 25th on record, came in mild.

At its peak, this cycle showed about a quarter fewer sunspots than the strong one of the late 1980s and early 1990s. By the surface tally, the Sun had simply gone soft.

Listening cycle to cycle

To read depth, the team sorted the ringing into low, middle, and high tones. The lowest notes travel deepest before turning back, while the highest ones sense only the thin layers just beneath the surface.

The low notes had already told a strange story. Around the mid-2000s, they stopped tracking sunspot counts the way they had before, something Chaplin’s group had flagged in earlier work. That disconnect is still there.

On its own, that oddity in the deep notes would be a footnote. Not this time.

The real surprise came from the opposite end of the scale, the highest tones, where no one expected much to change.

The high-frequency surprise

Here is what stopped the team. In the high notes, this cycle rings far louder than its mild sunspot count says it should.

By that measure, the Sun sounds every bit as strong as the big cycles of the 1990s.

The contrast is sharp. Going in, forecasters had pegged this as a below-average cycle in their predictions, and by sunspots it stayed fairly tame. The seismic high notes rank it with the heavyweights.

“This is the first such discovery and would have been impossible without the long BiSON observations,” said Chaplin.

No one had seen this pattern before. A clear sign that the Sun is drifting in ways the surface cannot reveal.

Magnetic activity moves upward

Why would the high notes light up while the deeper ones fade? The answer is location. High notes sense only the Sun’s outer skin, within about 600 miles of the surface, while lower notes feel changes far deeper.

Put together, the pattern suggests the action behind each cycle has crept closer to the surface. Decades ago it sat deeper. Now it appears increasingly concentrated in a thin layer near the top.

“This trend cannot be explained simply by weaker magnetic fields,” said Professor Sarbani Basu of Yale University.

Basu reads it as the Sun rearranging where it stores that activity beneath the surface – more than just a fading magnetism.

Predicting solar storms

The Sun’s tantrums are not just pretty auroras. Big eruptions fling charged particles toward Earth, and space weather like that can scramble the systems we lean on, from satellites and radio to GPS and power grids.

Predicting those storms starts with reading how active the Sun is. If sunspot counts undersell the real strength hiding below, warnings built on them could be caught out by a Sun that looks calm but is not.

That gap between what we see and what we hear is the practical payoff of listening underground. The view from the surface, it turns out, can hide as much as it reveals.

What the next cycle may reveal

For the first time, scientists have evidence that the Sun’s magnetic activity is becoming increasingly concentrated in a thin layer near the surface – a shift that decades of sunspot counts failed to reveal.

What this means over the long run is still open. The team wants to keep listening through the coming cycle to learn whether this is a passing phase or a longer rhythm unfolding across many decades.

If it holds, the Sun may be easing into a new mode of behavior, one only the sound waves can hear. And the sharper we read that signal, the better our odds of seeing its storms coming.

The study is published in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; electricuniverse; helioseismology; maunderminimum; physics; science; solarcycles; suncycles; sunspots
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To: Equine1952
Flares, atomic bombs, or EMF pulses ain’t hurting my 1970/350/chevy.

Get some spare alternator diodes and store them in a dead and grounded microwave oven. It'll rub as long as you can still get gas. I rotate through a stabilized 55-gallon drum.

41 posted on 05/31/2026 6:27:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: nickcarraway

42 posted on 05/31/2026 6:27:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Robert DeLong; Lazamataz
But what device(s) are they using to hear the sun?

It's gotta involve a beat frequency.

43 posted on 05/31/2026 6:32:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I think it even mentions radio frequncies in the articel, but what is the device, a radio receiver? One would assume that is it some thing along that line, but they never mention it, or I missed it but I did look.


44 posted on 05/31/2026 6:39:54 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
That sentence makes it appear to insinuate that telescopes contain listening devices, but that is not the case.

If you recall, they tried listening in on the sun a few years ago with less advanced equipment. At that time all they picked up was some nerdy guy on the sun saying, "Hot enough for ya?"

45 posted on 05/31/2026 6:45:13 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: nickcarraway
Here is another one along the same lines:

The GENIUS Who Built A Carrier Every 13 Days — When The Navy Said Impossible !

46 posted on 05/31/2026 6:46:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: fidelis

No, I do not recall that. Can you provide a link. /sarcasm


47 posted on 05/31/2026 6:48:18 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: nickcarraway

I heard it too.

It’s “Stairway to Heaven,” being played backwards.


48 posted on 05/31/2026 6:57:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: nickcarraway

The polarity of the sun flips approximately every eleven years and climatologists associate the change with drought conditions on the planet. The Earth is thought to flip polarity on a one hundred seventy thousand something year cycle they claim is long overdue?


49 posted on 05/31/2026 7:23:04 AM PDT by moreisee
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To: Robert DeLong

Those little Casablanca carriers are harbingers of the future of naval aviation in the drone era.

They were slow, lightly armed, but cheap, numerous and operated in swarms.

The future of carriers is small, fast, cheap, and beyond numerous and operated in swarms.


50 posted on 05/31/2026 7:35:00 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: nickcarraway

“ Each rise and fall of the Sun’s activity marks the pitch of that ringing.“

Damned tinnitus.


51 posted on 05/31/2026 8:23:06 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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To: nickcarraway

The sound of frying bacon?


52 posted on 05/31/2026 12:03:00 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: jerod

Goodness, gracious, great balls of fire.


53 posted on 05/31/2026 12:05:54 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nickcarraway

Here comes the sun, do, do, do, do.


54 posted on 05/31/2026 12:06:45 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nickcarraway

Sunshine, Lollypops and....


55 posted on 05/31/2026 12:07:16 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nickcarraway

There is a house in New Orleans....


56 posted on 05/31/2026 12:08:01 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks! Oddly, I think I went to elementary school with Moldy Bob.


Don’t care for his lifestyle or most of his music, but that’s one of my favorite instrumentals.


57 posted on 05/31/2026 12:08:02 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: faucetman

You might as well be walkin’ on the Sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQj—Kjn0z8


58 posted on 05/31/2026 12:09:28 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: nickcarraway

I’m gonna oak up the sun.


59 posted on 05/31/2026 12:16:18 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: faucetman

Here comes The Sun King.....


60 posted on 05/31/2026 12:18:11 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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