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How far has Lunar Starship gone in development?
Grok ^
| 04/06/2026
| Grok
Posted on 04/07/2026 2:27:24 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
Lunar Starship (the Starship Human Landing System, or HLS, for NASA's Artemis program) is in active development but remains several years from its first crewed lunar landing. As of early April 2026, the program has made substantial progress on hardware testing and subsystem qualification, yet key challenges like in-orbit propellant transfer, long-duration flights, and an uncrewed lunar demonstration are still ahead—contributing to schedule delays.
Current Status and Major Achievements SpaceX has completed 49 contractual milestones for the HLS contract with NASA (out of many total), with most achieved on or ahead of schedule. These cover: Life support and thermal control systems demonstrations. Full-scale landing leg drop tests on simulated lunar regolith. Raptor engine throttling tests tailored for lunar landing profiles. Lunar navigation sensors, crew elevator concepts, micrometeoroid shielding, docking adapter qualification (based on Dragon 2 tech), and software reviews. Integrated testing of cabin systems, including suited crew-in-the-loop evaluations.
A dedicated flight-ready Starship HLS cabin is now in fabrication, complete with avionics, power, life support, and communications. This will support system-level testing and astronaut training. The lunar variant design differs significantly from Earth-return Starships:
No heat shield or flaps (unneeded for lunar-only operations; it stays in cislunar space or returns to lunar orbit). Added landing legs optimized for 1/6th gravity. Powered by 6 Raptor engines (mix of sea-level and vacuum-optimized). Height around 52 meters (~171 ft), with massive internal volume (~650 m³ pressurized in some concepts) for crew, cargo, and potential habitat use.
It launches on Super Heavy, with plans for tanker variants to enable orbital refueling.ffada4 SpaceX has flown 11 integrated Starship/Super Heavy test flights (as of late 2025), achieving milestones like booster catches, in-space engine relights, controlled reentries, and small-scale cryogenic propellant transfers (~5 metric tons demonstrated). Production includes dozens of Starships and over 600 Raptor engines, with infrastructure expansion at Starbase (Texas), Florida, and California.
Key Remaining Challenges and 2026 Milestones The biggest technical hurdles for lunar capability are: Orbital propellant transfer (ship-to-ship cryogenic refueling) — never done at scale before; critical for reaching the Moon with enough delta-v. Long-duration orbital flight testing. Uncrewed demonstration landing on the Moon. SpaceX and NASA target these for 2026, depending on the rollout of Starship Version 3 (V3) hardware, which features a larger, more powerful design aimed at higher payload and refueling efficiency. The next test flight (Flight 12, first V3) was expected in early-to-mid 2026, with potential for multiple flights that year focusing on reusability and refueling demos.
NASA's Office of Inspector General noted at least two years of delays since the 2021 contract award, with more possible due to technical maturity risks (especially cryogenics and refueling). Artemis timelines have shifted: the first crewed lunar landing with Starship HLS is now targeted for 2028 (Artemis IV or similar), with an Earth-orbit integrated test possibly in 2027. An uncrewed lunar demo was previously eyed for late 2026.
Timeline Context 2021: NASA selects Starship HLS as the primary lander. 2023–2025: Core Starship flight tests advance; 49 HLS milestones completed. 2026: Expected focus on V3 flights, long-duration orbit, and propellant transfer demos. 2027–2028: Targeted for uncrewed demo and first crewed landing (subject to progress and additional Artemis architecture changes, including possible added missions). SpaceX privately funds most of the core Starship development (>90%), while NASA pays on a milestone basis for HLS-specific work. The company emphasizes that Starship enables not just landings but sustainable lunar operations through high cargo capacity (up to ~100+ tons) for habitats, rovers, etc.
In summary: Lunar Starship has solid subsystem progress and a clear design path, with 2026 shaping up as a pivotal year for proving the orbital refueling and extended operations needed for the Moon. However, the program faces realistic delays common to such complex systems, and a crewed landing is still likely 2+ years away. Progress is rapid by aerospace standards, but execution of the remaining high-risk demos will determine the exact pace. For the latest updates, check SpaceX's site or NASA Artemis pages, as test schedules can shift quickly.
TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: artemis; astronomy; california; florida; hls; lunarstarship; mds; moonlander; nasa; raptor; science; spacex; starbase; starship; superheavy; texas
To: SmokingJoe
But can they make a toilet that works?
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posted on
04/07/2026 2:42:06 AM PDT
by
P8riot
(You will never know Jesus Christ as a reality in your life until you know Him as a necessity.)
To: P8riot
Yes.
SpaceX had nothing to do with Artemis 2.
SpaceX has Dragon capsules which have had working toilets,
To: SmokingJoe
“SpaceX had nothing to do with Artemis 2.”
That is for sure. Most people do not know that the 4 main engines on the SLS were not only space shuttle technology, they were used shuttle engines. The oldest was 42 years old and they all flew before on shuttles. In principle, I am not opposed to this. The shuttle engines were very good and it makes sense to leverage this technology. But they should have been able to bring this monstrosity in for far less money and in far less time. At least, the Artemis spacecraft seems to be working better than it’s cousin, the Starliner. Good new for the people who are riding in it.
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posted on
04/07/2026 3:08:46 AM PDT
by
beef
(The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
To: P8riot
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posted on
04/07/2026 3:13:27 AM PDT
by
Samurai_Jack
(This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
To: SmokingJoe
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posted on
04/07/2026 3:40:30 AM PDT
by
virgil
(The evil that men do lives after them )
To: SmokingJoe
The SpaceX lander has NOT been selected, rather it is in competition with Blue Origin’s Blue Moon cargo capsule as of Feb this year.
The first one to win the race will be the one selected: Blue Origin or SpaceX.
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posted on
04/07/2026 7:06:53 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: SmokingJoe
To simplify the Grok wordiness, here's the current status of both options.
SpaceX Lunar Lander:
Lunar Starship (Starship HLS) has completed its Preliminary Design Review (PDR). According to NASA and SpaceX updates, the vehicle's Design Certification Review was initially planned for late summer 2025 but was delayed pending the completion of a ship-to-ship propellant transfer demonstration, which was targeted for March 2025 [ Not done as of 04/07/2026 ].
Key milestones and status updates include:
1. Design Progress: The final HLS design is likely finalized, with SpaceX reporting that 49 milestones have been met, including work on landing legs, docking adapters, and Raptor engine tests.
2. Hardware Development: SpaceX has begun manufacturing flight-article HLS cabin components and has conducted testing on landing legs and life-support systems.
3. Upcoming Requirements: The Critical Design Review (CDR) is required before further contract funds can be released, and it remains contingent on the successful completion of the orbital refueling demonstration.
4. Current Timeline: As of early 2026, the propellant transfer test campaign and subsequent design certification review have not yet occurred, causing delays to the original schedule. [ in other words they are way behind. ]
The Systems Requirements Review (SRR) for the Lunar Starship (Starship HLS) has not been explicitly confirmed as completed in available public reports. While the vehicle passed initial requirements in 2020, recent audits and updates focus on later milestones.
Key points regarding its status:
1. The Preliminary Design Review (PDR) was completed, but significant action items remain open for other aspects of the program.
2. Progress is now heavily dependent on the Critical Design Review (CDR), which is scheduled for August 2026.
3. The CDR itself is contingent upon the successful completion of an in-orbit cryogenic propellant transfer demonstration, which was delayed to March 2026 and, as of early April 2026, has not yet occurred. [ This failure sets the entire program back months. ]
4. A major unresolved issue is a disagreement between NASA and SpaceX over whether the Starship HLS design meets NASA's requirement for manual crew control during landing, a key system requirement that must be addressed before the CDR.
Therefore, while the foundational system requirements were accepted years ago, the full verification and review process, particularly for critical safety systems, is still ongoing and has not been formally closed out.
Blue Origin's Lunar Lander, Blue Moon, has not yet passed its Preliminary Design Review; it missed the 2024 milestone and is now scheduled to reach the Critical Design Review in summer 2026, which is 11 months behind the most recent plan.
The delay is attributed to unresolved issues with the propulsion system, mass reduction, and propellant margins that must be corrected and formally closed by the HLS Program.
While the project completed a Systems Requirements Review (SRR) in September 2020, NASA's March 2026 audit confirms that nearly half of the changes requested in the 2024 preliminary design review remain incomplete.
The main technical issues delaying Blue Origin's Blue Moon lunar lander are:
1. Propulsion System: The lander's propulsion system is not yet mature and requires further development to meet NASA’s requirements.
2. Mass Reduction: The current design exceeds mass targets, and Blue Origin must reduce the lander’s dry mass to ensure mission feasibility.
3. Propellant Margins: The lander’s design does not meet NASA’s propellant requirements, particularly in terms of efficiency and margins needed for the full lunar mission profile.
4. Cryogenic Fluid Management: Like SpaceX, Blue Origin faces challenges in storing and transferring cryogenic propellants (such as liquid hydrogen) in space, which is critical for long-duration missions and in-space refueling.
These unresolved issues were identified during the 2024 Preliminary Design Review, and as of March 2026, nearly half of the required corrective actions remain open, pushing the critical design review to summer 2026.
Blue Origin's Blue Moon Mark 2 lunar lander is scheduled to complete its Critical Design Review (CDR) in summer 2026, according to NASA's March 2026 audit report.
This milestone is 11 months behind the original plan, delayed due to unresolved issues from the Preliminary Design Review, including propulsion system maturity, mass reduction, and propellant margins. The lander is currently on track for an uncrewed demonstration landing by the end of 2026, pending successful completion of the CDR.
The delay in Blue Moon's Critical Design Review (CDR) is primarily due to unresolved issues from the Preliminary Design Review, including:
1. Propulsion system challenges, particularly with the BE-7 engine and long-term storage of cryogenic propellants (hydrogen and oxygen).
2. Difficulties in reducing the lander’s mass to meet performance requirements.
3. Insufficient propellant margins, affecting mission reliability and safety.
After all of those things are fixed, each lander must be man rated.
SpaceX's key factors that will determine the timeline include:
1. Resolving Open Deficiencies: Critical issues, such as the unresolved standoff over manual crew control during landing and the lack of testing for the crew elevator in a lunar environment, must be addressed.
2. Demonstrating Technology: A successful in-orbit cryogenic propellant transfer is a prerequisite for the CDR and subsequent steps.
3. Uncrewed Demonstration Mission: A full uncrewed test flight of the HLS to the lunar surface must be completed successfully.
4. Certification Reviews: After the CDR, a Design Certification Review (DCR) and a Flight Readiness Review (FRR) are required, where NASA formally certifies the system for human spaceflight.
5. Safety Analysis: SpaceX must provide a comprehensive safety analysis to meet NASA's stringent Loss of Crew and Mission (LOCM) probability requirements.
Given the current schedule, with the CDR not expected until August 2026 and the first crewed landing (Artemis III) already delayed to no earlier than 2028, the man-rating process will likely take several years after the CDR, contingent upon the successful completion of all preceding milestones.
Blue Moon:
Once all deficiencies from the Preliminary Design Review (PDR) and Critical Design Review (CDR) are resolved, Blue Moon Mark 2 is expected to undergo extensive testing and certification before being man-rated. Based on current plans, an uncrewed demonstration flight is scheduled for 2027, which will fully test the lander’s systems, including life support. Only after successful completion of this mission will NASA proceed with crewed certification.
Assuming no further delays, Blue Moon could be man-rated by 2028–2029, with the first crewed landing planned for Artemis V, currently targeted for 2030. This timeline depends heavily on resolving propulsion, mass, and propellant margin issues by the summer 2026 CDR.
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posted on
04/07/2026 8:02:41 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: beef
At least, the Artemis spacecraft seems to be working better than it’s cousin, the Starliner.
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The Artemis “spacecraft” is called the Orion capsule. Artemis is the name of the mission.
Boeing’s Starliner capsule is a death trap and will likely never see use again.
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posted on
04/07/2026 8:06:05 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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