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1 posted on 11/20/2025 9:42:56 AM PST by Red Badger
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I do the car deals in our family.

I don’t give a rat’s patootie about any of the above BS.

I want to get the vehicle I want at a decent price, and I always do.

And I want to make sure the people working at the service department know their stuff and that repair pricing is honest and transparent.

And that is ALL I care about.


2 posted on 11/20/2025 9:47:06 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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Note to Ford: At the moment there is not a car in your lineup that I would buy.

So I won’t be setting foot in one of dealerships any time soon.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


3 posted on 11/20/2025 9:48:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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Ford Is Redesigning Dealers to Make Car Buying Feel Easier

How to really make it easier.

1. Fixed price sale at a reasonable MSRP like Saturn did. No negotiation, but the price is reasonable without the markup to give negotiating room.

2. Make the Finance and Insurance guys dig their own graves and the shoot them.

5 posted on 11/20/2025 9:50:03 AM PST by KarlInOhio (I pray that the sleeping giant has finally awakened and been filled with a terrible resolve.)
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“brand ambassadors”

“collaboration”

“dedicated hospitality spaces”

I see Ford hired a bunch of MBA’s.

A better approach would be to build dependable cars the customer wants, not DC.


7 posted on 11/20/2025 9:51:06 AM PST by alternatives?
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Nothing about keeping salesmen from lying like rugs or building cars that don’t fall apart. I guess I will stick with used Toyotas and Subarus.

Hard to believe, but GM and Stellantis are even worse than Ford. They never learn.


8 posted on 11/20/2025 9:54:18 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Cut to the chase: free beer.


9 posted on 11/20/2025 9:57:51 AM PST by Billthedrill
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They’ll do anything but build basic, affordable, good cars.

How’s that EV effort going? Hahahaha.


10 posted on 11/20/2025 10:00:06 AM PST by Vision (“Our Democracy” means "Our Slush Fund." The Left is hate.)
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It reads like they didn’t even ask a single customer about making the experience better, they just made some stuff up.


15 posted on 11/20/2025 10:06:30 AM PST by bak3r
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18 posted on 11/20/2025 10:16:19 AM PST by nutmeg (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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Making car buying easy. send an e-mail to a bunch of dealers e-sales department. Tell them what you want, what you want to pay 'out the door' and how you want to pay it. Wait. Some will make counter-offers that are terrible - tell them to sod off. some will tell you you need to come in - tell them to sod off. Some will make you counteroffers that are not insulting, pick the cheapest, send an e-mail to all remaining dealers and say you have this offer and first to beat it by $X wins. Some will say they don't believe you - tell them to sod off. Some will tell you their price is better because stuff - tell them to sod off. If someone meets your terms, they win. If nobody does then you know you have the best price and you accept that offer.

Takes writing like 10 e-mails, saved me thousands.

20 posted on 11/20/2025 10:25:27 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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“Ford Is Redesigning Dealers to Make Car Buying Feel Easier”

“Hey sales guy! What’s in those five gallon buckets? Motor oil?”

“Nah, K-Y jelly. Helps make car buying feel easier.”


26 posted on 11/20/2025 10:44:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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creating spaces that establish “trust and community” between the dealership and the community at large,

Anyone that trusts a car salesman is going to get the deal that they deserve.

28 posted on 11/20/2025 10:47:08 AM PST by PAR35 (I)
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I hope the writer means that Ford is redesigning dealerships and not dealers. Or are they working on some creepy robotics? 🤔


29 posted on 11/20/2025 10:51:35 AM PST by Bigg Red ( Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.)
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I am old enough to remember “Win on Sunday, Sells On Monday.”

Long before wokism and political correctness, Nascar was something to behold. The cars all looked different. The above phrase had to do with bragging rights, and actual performance.

I also remember tuning up my own cars with timing, dwell, points gap; yes, I had a gapper tool and a timing light. Advancing and retarding the distributor.

Today’s auto companies took the massive government checks and produced EVs, as long as the cash and subsidies flowed. They were just like the Soviet tractor factories. Each day, the tractor company’s employees would walk by row upon row of brand new, rusting tractors outside the tractor factory. Inside the factory, everyone “had a job” producing more tractors to put outside in yet another row.


31 posted on 11/20/2025 11:23:13 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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....Or, just sell your cars at a set price, without all the negotiation and attempted screwing the customer over. Easier, the customers are happier, and a dealership only needs maybe two sales guys per shift, instead of an entire department of them!


32 posted on 11/20/2025 11:37:24 AM PST by Svartalfiar (-)
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Re-arrangeing the deck chairs on the Titanic?


33 posted on 11/20/2025 11:39:27 AM PST by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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Could care less about all the touchy feely BS. I also don’t want a relationship with the dealer. They’re not a charity, their mission is to make the highest possible profit off of me. I respect that.

What I do want:
1. A price that is reasonable. Your product is a commodity, I can and will go elsewhere. You have no leverage on me whatsoever.

2. Don’t waste a second of my time with BS. If I’m not the most important priority for you, I’m walking. Considering the cost of a new or late model vehicle I deserve it.

3. Give me a damn good reason to buy from you. It’s not about what you can upsell me on. It’s about what YOU will do for ME.

4. Make it convenient for me.

5. Don’t embarrass yourself. If your salesperson isn’t able to speak English, has body odor, doesn’t know his product, wants to tell me all about his stupid boring life, lacks class and professionalism… it tells me all I need to know about you the dealer.

What I will give you the dealer: Professionalism and respect for your time. I will have likely already done my homework on the vehicle I’m looking at. I have great credit, and probably will show up ready with a contact at my bank for you to close the deal with. Lastly, I will set my expectations with you, politely of course, so you’re not surprised if I get up from the table and walk away.

I guess I’m a prick. Whatever…


35 posted on 11/20/2025 12:04:52 PM PST by Made In The USA (One and Two and Three and Four and)
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If only Detroit would go back to making cars that weren’t held hostage every few thousand miles for electrical issues.


40 posted on 11/20/2025 1:13:39 PM PST by Vaduz (?.)
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How about just make it easier. Really the process is insane. Last time I bought a car I had it all set. I had the VIN of the car I wanted to test drive, I had a cashiers check for the down, I had a pre-approved loan that would cover the rest. 20 minute test drive, yeah I like it, lets pull the trigger. Then FOUR FREAKING HOURS of... I don’t what. Honestly. Yeah in there was 10 minutes of signing crap. But everything else was just, whatever freaking churn the dealership has. And sales people talking to me constantly about nothing, bad socializing. Fix that. I should have been in and out in an hour tops.


42 posted on 11/20/2025 1:22:54 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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They are known as stealerships for a reason. They steal.
I had a Honda stealership change a 3 year to a 5 year between the sales desk and the finance desk.

Plus always lying saying something is broke on your car when there is not like the cv joint cover they said needed replacing at $150 each front wheel. Or the air filter that did not. I had a tire valve replaced as it showed cut and rotate the tires. I checked afterward and found the valve stem was new but the valve core was not screwed in all the way so the air leaked...

I go to a shop that verified the cv joint was fine. The mechanic look of disgust when I told them as if they had heard this before. The air filter I had replaced just a few months before.


47 posted on 11/20/2025 6:18:56 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Making money now. Still want much more.)
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