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Posted on 11/17/2025 7:01:05 AM PST by AAABEST
There was a thread earlier entitled "Too Many Americans Want a Civil War." Referring to the Kirk assassination, the author warned "how close the country had come to a 'potential' civil war."
I've got news for him, and everyone else. Technically speaking, we're not "potentially" in Civil War II, it's already begun.
Anyone involved with or familiar with various factions of the intel community, which geek-out on societal analysis, will tell you it's here. The 3 phases of civil war are, technically, classified as follows:
1. Routine Peaceful Competition
Remember, not too long ago, when we could argue vociferously, especially around election time, regarding topics of the day then go back to normal relations? Nobody got fired or cancelled, we didn't shun friends and family. Your race, political persuasion, or who you voted for wasn't an issue. Those days are gone, and won't be back for the foreseeable future.
Low Intensity Conflict, or Grey War (YOU ARE HERE.)
Hardened factions begin paring off, differences become irreconcilable. Political, informational and economic warfare ramps up. Civil unrest breaks out often, and large, even dangerous, demonstrations become commonplace. Violence, assassinations and calls for such intensify.
3. Conventional Warfare
This is when the killing begins and we start seeing bodies. We're not there yet, but possible or likely will be if things keep going sideways. This phase - all out civil war - Can possibly be avoided, but not always providentially. Rome during the fall of the republic or pre WW II Germany come to mind.
Regarding bankruptcy/insolvency, we're already there as well. Merriam Webster defines "insolvent" as follows:
Insolvent (YOU ARE HERE.)
1 a: unable to pay debts as they fall due in the usual course of business. b: having liabilities in excess of a reasonable market value of assets held.
2: insufficient to pay all debts.
The national debt - which hardly anyone can even fathom - is far beyond our ability to repay. Even our children and grandchildren - the real victims of our intergenerational theft - could never repay it. The interest alone has, sadly, recently become our primary budget item - higher than our massive military budget. Let that sink in. It will only get exponentially worse.
Debt and currency devaluation is at the root of nearly all our problems and is the main catalyst for Civil War II. Along with the move away from investing in dollars, it's the main cause of inflation. It's pushing the broke and unemployed to radicalism, violence and street demonstrations. It's breaking healthcare, retirement and government services. Things like groceries, private services, goods, housing and autos are becoming unaffordable, especially for middle class, the poor and the elderly. It's becoming increasingly difficult to get a doctor, replacement parts, loans and many of the things Americans have always taken for granted.
Along with our civil war, America's bankruptcy is here, it just that neither has been officially declared yet. How either will look once the music stops nobody can know - but it will be very bad times for us all. The best course of action at this point is to prepare as much as possible.
One of the topics this is listed under is "gardening," a skill you'll likely need.
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He seems to be taking a more sober approach, with a "how do we fix this" attitude. I doubt it's fixable at all, especially within his last 3 short years, but identifying the problem is a good first step. It allows appraisal of the situation as opposed to denial.
The RINOs have already gone over to the Party of Death, Destruction and assassins of political opponents and their children of the DEMONRATS.
If ypu’re outside an ICE facility right now, I’d argue that it is not LIC, but HIC.
Is the US “already” in civil war?
Nope.
You really have no idea what a real war is like.
You Democrats can try starting it...we’ll finish it!
“He seems to be taking a more sober approach, with a “how do we fix this” attitude. I doubt it’s fixable at all, especially within his last 3 short years, but identifying the problem is a good first step. It allows appraisal of the situation as opposed to denial.”
Why has no president ever just come out in a speech and said ‘we’re broke and we’ve got to do something hard to fix it’?
We’ve been milked like cows and treated like serfs.
If he keeps giving in, he'll lose.
Time to say "alea iacta est" and cross the Rubicon.
I made this summary of an excellent article posted by MtnClimber the other day about a conversation between Joe Rogan and Glen Beck. I found it fairly accurate.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4352678/posts
Joe Rogan and Glenn Beck on the nine steps to civil war
My summary:
The nine steps to civil war
1. The first step is the loss of civic trust. When people lose trust in the fairness of the system.
2. Step two is a polarization hardens into identity. Everyone is constantly reminded as to who they are on the political divide, with no break in the action that goes beyond politics.
3. Step three is a breakdown of the gatekeepers. Previously, the media, churches, civic leaders, and political parties served as gatekeepers in political discourse, shaping public conversation into a healthy debate. Now, however, these institutions have failed in that role and have joined in the polarization.
4. Step four is parallel information realities. There are multiple sources of news and information, and they can present wildly disparate versions of the news and political commentary to the point that these can be completely different realities. These realities align with the polarization of identities.
5. Step five is the loss of a neutral rule of law. This is the pivot point. The abject corruption in the rule of law and lawfare as a political weapon. The most egregious examples were the Lois Lerner IRS attack on the Tea Party applications, relentless persecution of January 6, 2021, defendants and the soft treatment of the leftists who burned, looted, and murdered during their 2020 ‘summer of love.’
6. Step six is a normalization of political violence. The ANTIFA violence that killed several people and caused billions in damage in US cities was sold as a “Mostly Peaceful Protest.”
7. Step seven is the rise of militias and parallel forces. That is happening right now in the divisions between ICE immigration enforcement and the state and local police forces.
8. Step eight, there’s the trigger event. Something like the assassination of the president as there have already been several attempts.
9. Step nine comes when police, military, or federal agencies split and begin battling each other.
Insolvent means not being able to cover your liabilities.
That is not nearly the case.
And “Civil War?” That seems to be the narrative this morning.
When you start seeing the same phrasing from multiple sources with emotional language…that is the sign of a controlled information campaign.
Once you see it…it cannot be unseen.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.“
George Washington
“androgyny becomes prevalent as a civilization is starting to unravel. You find it again and again and again in history.”
Camille Paglia
“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society”
Aristotle
“‘If you could pick one thing to give America the best chance to avoid a violent collapse… what would it be?’ I, of course, replied that what we need to do is shut down the wealth pump.”
Peter Turchin
We have plenty of people, both living and dead, warning that we’re going the wrong way. IDK if it ends in civil war, cartel-like violence or peaceful collapse (USSR).
I agree that our golden age is behind us, but I don't agree that it extend into the 1990s. I remember that in the 1980s, the big press hated Ronald Reagan while Gorbachev was their hero.
When Japan attacked the United States, There existed within the United States, despite political differences, a consensus of decent , commonly held values that united Americans. A mighty giant arose and defeated not only Japan but Germany as well. Today a near majority of the polulation has embraced neo pagan hedonistic decadence. They have embraced drug use, pornography, homosexuality and all its permutations, celebrity and earth worship, globalism and of course socialism. They are the Democrats. Can rational,productive moral people make common cause with such people as happened in 1941? This why America is divided and when the divisions collide there are sometime sparks and often violence. As the decadent people become more desperate, civil, violent conflict is more likely.
Thanks for not reading anything past the headline and making a total ass of yourself.
And while you sat on your fat ass, I was mechanized infantry during Operation Desert Storm...awarded the CIB, among other commendations. I then spent 10 years deploying as an IC, OGA, during operations Iraqi Freedom and enduring Freedom. I know exactly what war is - too well. I honor many buddies on memorial day.
And this "democrat" (lol) has voted Trump three times, and been to his house in Mar a Lago three times for dinner. I've spoken with him and my wife has several pictures with him.
Silly old fool.
I don’t know how close we are, but one thing I just thought of. Decades ago, there would be rich radical leftist youths, but they were an affront to their parents. They may even have grown out of their phase. Now, there are rich radical families. We may even import them. I also was thinking about the Mid-Eastern country in which a man with a food-cart was arrested and/or killed by police and it sparked an uprising.
One never knows the repercussions of any random event that sparks chaos.
President Trump has been in war against your govt since 2015 when he came down the escalator.
He’s now in the Oval Office,where the Declaration of Independence hangs, as a sign that the long train or abuses and usurpations needs to be derailed from within.
The govt of the Swamp,by the Swamp, for the Swamp needs to perish from this earth.
If he’s allowed to obliterate and drain, and win the war, 1950s-1990s will look like fools gold..
Trump has won almost all immigration cases at SCOTUS.
That's what counts.
And over 2.2 million illegals have been kicked out of the country.
Plus BBB has allocated another nearly $500 Billion for immigration enforcement.
Its WIN WIN WIN for Trump.
“And while you sat on your fat ass, I was mechanized infantry during Operation Desert Storm...awarded the CIB, among other commendations. I then spent 10 years deploying as an IC, OGA, during operations Iraqi Freedom and enduring Freedom. I know exactly what war is - too well. I honor many buddies on memorial day.”
But somehow you think America is already in civil war?
Where at?
6.1 threatening and deliberate targeting of political leaders for permanent incapacitation or death.
6.1 threatening and deliberate targeting of political leaders for permanent incapacitation or death.
(You are here.)
Well, Cheney is gone now, thank Heavens. One down, hundreds to go.
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