Posted on 10/13/2025 11:49:35 AM PDT by MarlonRando
Indeed, even vocal supporters of America’s effort are now expressing doubts that Nasa will be able to beat the Chinese space agency in the race to send humans back to the lunar surface. China has been making great strides in its lunar effort and is targeting a Moon landing by 2030. America’s programme, on the other hand, is beset with problems, including the lack of a working lunar landing system and lunar surface spacesuits that are behind schedule.
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Can you imagine being a police officer in China??
“ can you give me a description of the man who stole your purse?”
Victim:” Yes, he was short, with brown eyes and black short hair. He was humorless, like an autistic robot.”
Um, I thought we went to the moon, multiple times??
Why with all our increased technology, is it sooooo hard to get back??
interesting?
Who cares if China beats us to the moon. Starship by SpaceX is a next generation vehicle and a paradigm shift.
Let them.
Ever dollar they spend getting to the Moon, is a dollar they won’t be spending on military build-up or terrorist assisting...............
Why are we racing China to the moon? Do something new. Build infrastructure on the moon. Use robots to do it.
Because all those guys and gals are dead...........
Space X Starship Stack has a cargo weight to LEO of about the same as the mission weight at the time of Trans Lunar Injection. 107,000 pounds (\(~48,500\) kg) for Apollo 17. SpaceX is buitling the starship program with a target of LEO, what NASA wants to fund beyond that has been sitting since 2018 as a question. Grumman took 6 and half years to finalize the lander design, weight, power, safety factors in coordination with NASA and less than 19 months to build flight copies.
Nasa has concentrated all its efforts on heavy lift and has waffled on a lunar station, lunar lander, lunar long-term and exactly other than personal they want to return from the moons surface. Congress needs to issue what they want so both parties are happy with the deliveries past 2029.
Mainly because we’re not willing to spend money on it.
Who. Cares. We’ve been there.
Going to the moon is a military build up. It’s very much the “High Ground”! I doubt they will make many simplistic virtue signaling statements about being there for “all mankind”. There will be a serious effort to militarize it. It’s the ultimate way to express hegemony over the barbarian powers and show the superiority of the Middle Kingdom under Heaven.
All your moons belong to us!
1st off who gives a s....
“ Why with all our increased technology, is it sooooo hard to get back??”
Indeed. I wonder the same thing myself. NASA did it before with computers that had a tiny fraction of the power of your cell phone.
Because we let the manufacturing companies go defunct and didn't pass the knowledge down to the younger generations of engineers. Then we seeded everyone with the mistaken notion that we never went there in the first place.
Robots don’t need to breath. Imagine factories on the Moon making all kinds of things, including more factories. It has the potential to dwarf the Industrial Revolution. At the Lunar poles there is frozen ice . Probably the most important real estate in the Solar System. Water for anybody we send up there and rocket fuel for exploiting the rest of the Solar System.
Hey, RB, peaceful trips to the moon refine ICBM technology, not to mention hypersonic capable craft.
Kind of like visiting Oklahoma once, for sure!
Would you want to go to the Moon in a spaceship made in China?...................
“ Indeed. I wonder the same thing myself. NASA did it before with computers that had a tiny fraction of the power of your cell phone.”
Can probably use AI at this point.
NASA was at one time funded to do just that. Not so much now.
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