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VANITY: How Hamas will win the war in Gaza
Ask Haviv Anything ^ | 07/31/2025 | Haviv Rettig Gur

Posted on 07/31/2025 12:39:46 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ug9HAnUB4&list=PLwrSkTAO0GeRuqiXYvkJ-kAqcAqWAoM30


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Haviv Rettig Gur is arguably the smartest, most insightful commentator on the Israeli-Palestinian situation. He gets my highest reco for the single most insightful commentary.

The above is fairly depressing, which is not his normal mode. He's far more critical of the Israeli government, specifically the management of war in terms of a failure to enter the information war than I'm comfortable with. But the notion that Hamas will sacrifice any number of Gazan civilians to achieve its aims is daunting. I don't know how it should be overcome.

1 posted on 07/31/2025 12:39:46 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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Didn’t have time to watch but with every dirty marxist Euroweenie taking Hamas’ side and announcing they will reward them with what they want, they will win.


2 posted on 07/31/2025 12:41:55 PM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. )
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Live link:

https://youtu.be/-4Ug9HAnUB4?si=TgkUocHw0EqJwnBp


3 posted on 07/31/2025 12:52:31 PM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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The United States military intervention would now, thanks to Hamas’ savagery of starving their people, be justified as a rescue operation and no one could truthfully deny it.


4 posted on 07/31/2025 1:11:57 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (I don't usually warmonger but when I do it's about killing terrorists.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

We may not want to click on the link but perhaps you can provide a transcript?


5 posted on 07/31/2025 1:16:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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justified as a rescue operation and no one could truthfully deny it.

Except there are no civilians on Gaza - they are all Hamas


6 posted on 07/31/2025 1:21:48 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

They already won by turning the world against Israel and the Jews. It has always been a suicidal movement. They would kill any or all of their children just to kill one Israeli Jew.


7 posted on 07/31/2025 1:26:34 PM PDT by montag813
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To: MikelTackNailer

United States military intervention
Yeah, that’s a hard No. Not our problem.


8 posted on 07/31/2025 1:32:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: PIF

All Palestinians “praised and cheered” Oct. 7, admits Abbas’ advisor
Teaser: Hamas brought disaster to Gaza but the massacre on Oct. 7 was a celebration as if the Palestinians “had liberated Jerusalem”.
https://palwatch.org/page/37224


9 posted on 07/31/2025 1:36:32 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: MinorityRepublican

You can download transcripts of his episodes by searching for “transcript haviv rettig gur”, they seem to be in docx format. This was episode number 322. It may be too new (eg; today) for a transcript to show but it should be available by tomorrow.


10 posted on 07/31/2025 1:44:49 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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Israel has long ago lost the media war


11 posted on 07/31/2025 1:46:27 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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Tis more evil to stand aside doing nothing while intervening would have cost far less in the long run. With Europe, Canada and the entire Turd World already giving in to a future global Caliphate it’s left up to us by default.

It’s a matter of survival and the future of our progeny.


12 posted on 07/31/2025 2:32:46 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (I don't usually warmonger but when I do it's about killing terrorists.)
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By that logic, we have to do the same thing in the Ukraine. Israel is urging us to involve ourselves there, too.
>We have to bleed, lose limbs, alienate our young people further, and go even further into debt—to save ourselves
That’s some tired old domino theory, “X”.
Why don’t you fierce Bolton neocon dual-citizens sign up to fight in one of the wars you are so anxious to mire us in?
Lead by example.
Tis the right thing to do.


13 posted on 07/31/2025 2:40:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

By eating all the USAID food meant for the Afrikaner wards of the State.


14 posted on 07/31/2025 2:56:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Kamala Harris would have been the next Abraham Lincoln". - Jeff "Dumber" Daniels.)
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I differ as the Ukraine is thoroughly corrupt former Soviet state at war with the slightly less corrupt former Soviet Union. It’s use to the world seems to be a convenient money-laundering operation for anyone wishing to hide illicit income.

Putin sees it’s play for NATO membership and subsequent protection as further incursion on Russia’s diminishing sphere of influence, which he feels must be maintained or expanded if possible. His neighbor China has no scruples in it’s efforts toward similar goals via different tactics (Belt and Road Initiatives, oceanic bullying, etc.). Add natural resources into the mix.

And Ukraine harbors a large tribe of anti-Semitic neo-Nazis that everyone seems okay with ignoring. So no - the U.S. should leave them be and stop flushing money and resources down that lost cause and help them negotiate a surrender at the most.


15 posted on 07/31/2025 3:46:08 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (God doesn't make mistakes. People who won't listen to Him do.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

What does “winning” mean in this context?

If Hamas isn’t completely destroyed does that mean Hamas wins?

If Gaza isn’t completely levelled does that mean Hamas wins?

If Israel has to destroy everything and kill everything to win, what are the consequences of that?


16 posted on 07/31/2025 3:54:06 PM PDT by x
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Hamas is no different than any other terrorist organization or leftist government.

The hoi polloi are just tools for those power grabbers to use to advance themselves to provide food, services, and money for their ends. And they’re completely expendable.

Too bad the average muslim hasn’t figured that out yet.


17 posted on 07/31/2025 5:14:25 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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Trump has given indication that the time of giving hamas a chance is past and action will be taken soon.


18 posted on 07/31/2025 5:15:36 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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Hamas needs to be bulldozed along with all of Gaza.


19 posted on 07/31/2025 5:20:22 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's ok---- I wasn't married to it.)
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That’s a good list of questions. Most of us would consider Gaza about 80% decimated, and Hamas about 50% killed. Gaza is more or less a garbage dump.

But the operative entity in Gaza is Hamas, whose raison d’etre is the destruction and elimination of Israel. If Hamas can be reconstituted, they have survived Israel’s onslaught. And I think that is the key element.

The moves by the Euros and Canada to grant Hamas statehood are laughably, yet tragically misguided. That isn’t what Hamas is fighting for. As long as Hamas can regroup and live to fight Israel another day, they have “prevailed”. I for one don’t know how you beat that. Indeed, there is some amount of reasonable thought that they have outlasted the Iranians, the Houthis, and Hezbolleh. Maybe they become the de facto heroes of the Islamists. They are certainly going to be the recipients of billions in new aid, from other Arab countries and from any number of dipstick liberal countries. Statehood or not, they are never going to be any sort of productive nation, they’ll be getting international aid from a dozen countries as long they continue to be the f**kups they are. And this war will resume in 5 or fewer years.


20 posted on 07/31/2025 5:23:53 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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