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1 posted on 07/20/2025 6:46:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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No.
2 posted on 07/20/2025 6:49:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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Not buying it.


3 posted on 07/20/2025 6:59:01 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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The next theory is that it was either set in Africa, or based on an African tale.


4 posted on 07/20/2025 6:59:16 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Our Lady of China, pray for us)
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Egg heads being egg heads.

https://faimao.blogspot.com/2024/09/i-watched-documentary-on-illiad-and.html


5 posted on 07/20/2025 6:59:54 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( A All Democrats are pedophiles )
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Years ago I remember reading a similar article but only remember one point. There was something about floating rocks in the Odyssey actually being ice. I read the Odyssey 65 years ago so I don’t remember details like that. It was one of my favorites.


7 posted on 07/20/2025 7:07:20 PM PDT by Cold Heart (BP S GW)
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Next they’ll claim Hamlet was set in Denmark.


8 posted on 07/20/2025 7:37:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The Weather Bureau announced they will shut down the entire Sharknado early warning system and staff)
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Dumbest theory ever.
10 posted on 07/20/2025 7:43:17 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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Whoever believes that will also have to believe that the Baltic was much warmer in ancient times than today.


11 posted on 07/20/2025 8:12:10 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely.


12 posted on 07/20/2025 8:16:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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This is a joke, right? The Odyssey was campfire poetic fiction for many years before it was set down in writing. A work of imagination. If you try to do forensics on this sort of thing you end up one of those sorry creatures who waste their time dissecting Joyce's Ulysses and chasing their tales. (Chasing their tales, get it? Never mind.)

Nobody ever mentions Homer's last name, either. It was Simpson. And the only place I can see matching all of his geographical descriptions is Texas. Ulysses was really from San Antonio. If you've ever staggered along the River Walk there you'll agree.

13 posted on 07/20/2025 8:28:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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What the article fails to mention is some recent evidence of climatic differences at that time. If we presume the Trojan war to be around 3200 BC, there is recent evidence that prior to that time there was significantly more rainfall in and around Anatolia, which would have resulted in much more vegetation. Historians looking at events leading up to the Bronze Age Collapse now believe that rainfall-driven agriculture was much more widespread and relied-upon due to the greater rainfall at that time.

From sediment cores in the Mediterranean, there’s also recent evidence of a sharp cooling trend right before the Bronze Age Collapse, which would have resulted in a sudden drop in rainfall due to much lower evaporation from the seas. There are Cuneiform tablets detailing pleas for food shipments from places in Anatolia (i.e. Hittite Empire) because of crop failures. It’s now thought that famines from that cooling trend might have precipitated the warfare that led to the collapse. Only the Egyptians managed to survive it, mainly because they had the Nile river to rely upon, but there’s evidence that even the Nile was affected by the sudden drop in rainfall and it resulted in Egyptian civil unrest. The Egyptians never fully recovered.

As for the Trojan War, my thinking is that if it actually happened, perhaps it was one of the first symptoms of the impending Bronze Age Collapse. If the cooling trend had already begun and rainfall had dropped off, it’s not a great stretch to envision Myceneans warring with one another when lack of food began to stress their civilization, the first ripples in a tide that eventually consumed nearly everyone in the eastern Mediterranean.


15 posted on 07/20/2025 10:55:55 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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Um, the Odyssey isn't an historical account, it's fiction. Made up. With made up locations and made up characters.

Like trying to figure out where the Hobbit takes place.

On a side note, just re-read the Odyssey earlier this year - more fun than when I had to read it in high school 50+ years ago.

19 posted on 07/21/2025 4:00:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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No, it was set in Central Africa....

Per: A black historian...

Really it was set in New England USA....

Per: Me...

It was set on a different planet...

Per: A Space Alien...

21 posted on 07/21/2025 5:00:19 AM PDT by DeplorableTrumpSupporter (FKA ConservaTeen)
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The Odessey took place on Qo’nos; it reads better in the original Klingon.


22 posted on 07/21/2025 5:09:45 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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It actually takes place in Trenton, NJ. It was a dump even back then.


23 posted on 07/21/2025 5:14:38 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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So, his real name was ‘Olaf’?.................


24 posted on 07/21/2025 5:34:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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I don’t buy this - wasn’t this text used to find Troy, which is in modern Turkey? How does that even remotely correspond to Scandinavia?


28 posted on 07/21/2025 6:43:43 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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I remember a TV documentary from the 1970s
probably BBC in origin that traced at the voyages of Odysseus in the Mediterranean. The spokesperson was retired RN officer who had a yacht. He sailed to each spot he thought matched the description in the Odyssey


32 posted on 07/21/2025 7:11:47 AM PDT by Reily
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So Odysseus was really named Ole …ya sure makes sense to me now.


38 posted on 07/21/2025 3:22:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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