New Solution to 120-Year-Old ‘Absolute Zero’ Problem Shows Einstein was Wrong

The Debrief ^ | June 18, 2025 | Christopher Plain

[Red Badger]

Absolute Ping!...................

[Resolute Conservative]

Marilyn would be sad.

[Jolla]

One of my favs:

If it is zero degrees and it gets twice as cold, how cold is it?

PS

I don’t know.

[Tell It Right]

First, he says that the “formalism” of thermodynamics essentially requires the existence of Nerst’s theoretical engine. However, the described machine must also be virtual, does not consume any heat, does not produce any work, and does not question the second principle. Olalla says the “concatenation” of these two nuances “allows us to conclude that entropy exchanges tend to zero when the temperature tends to. zero (which is Nernst’s theorem) and that absolute zero is inaccessible.”

This sounds like when I was working on my BS in CS, while Hollywood was making Star Trek The Next Generation. US CS students would argue about time travel paradoxes as though it was actually possible to travel in time and worth arguing about what would happen. LOL

[PGR88]

Trust the science!

Until its proven wrong.

Hence the problem of inductive reasoning.....

[9YearLurker]

If I’m proven wrong on something 120 years from now, I’m okay with that.

[cgbg]

You know what they will call 2025 science in 2525?

A joke.

[decal]

Another one I’ve thought about:

Is it possible to have a wind-chill factor below absolute zero?

[1Old Pro]

You know what they will call 2025 science in 2525? A joke.

If man is still alive.

[Robert DeLong]

From what I read, it sounds like nothing has been proven or disproven, and the theories are now just in competition with each other. However, Einstein's theory apparently still prevails for now, until the machine can be built. 😋👍

But can someone explain what the application would be? 🤣

[SuperLuminal]

A crock of crap!
Einstein, given science at the time, was not “wrong”...
He just had a different opinion...

Everybody loves to claim Einstein was “wrong” about something...
He made many statements in the early 1900s that he later changed his mind on when new scientific techniques were developed...
He often recanted based on new info appearing...

[George from New England]

Called a joke by Zager and Evans

[Leaning Right]

> If it is zero degrees and it gets twice as cold… <

My understanding is that at absolute zero it cannot get any colder. Therefore, at that temperature getting twice as cold (or any amount colder) would not be possible.

Atoms and molecules are always in motion, although normally we don’t notice it. The lower the temperature, the less motion there is. At absolute zero theoretically all motion has stopped.

Since motion can no longer decrease, no further drop in temperature is possible.

🥶

[EnderWiggin1970]

I'm an engineer, not a physicist or chemist and thus my understanding of this stuff is pretty rough. But I tend to imagine "heat" as being the kinetic energy of individual atoms, either zipping around in space or vibrating as it is held in place by any atomic/chemical bonds. And so absolutely zero would be a state of zero motion by the various atoms involved, with them locking into a motionless lattice or other framework as a solid material. But to interact with such absolute zero particles would mean moving other atoms into proximity with them, which inherently means the presence of heat (in the kinetic motion of atoms) according to my understanding.

There are probably some defects/shortcomings/caveats in my way of looking at it, but I can understand the point of the article in my way of looking at it.

[C210N]

So, at absolute zero, are electrons stationary in their nucleus orbiting?

[ScottHammett]

Does that apply to photons or gravity or time or do those transcend thermodynamics? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Magnum44]

When I think about thermodynamics and absolute zero...

[Rio]

So, at absolute zero, are electrons stationary in their nucleus orbiting?

That's the way that I learned it. Impossible to achieve.

[Sacajaweau]

I’ll stick with Einstein.