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50 Year Old Venus Spacecraft Is About To Land On EARTH????? [9:33]
YouTube ^ | April 29, 2025 | Scott Manley

Posted on 04/29/2025 6:12:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

In 1972 the Soviet union launched two spacecraft to explore the planet Venus, Venera 8 would become the second spacecraft to land on Venus, while the other spacecraft got stuck in Earth orbit and so was designated Kosmos 482. Now, 50 years later we expect the spacecraft to finally fall back to Earth, and unlike most spacecraft this one is designed to survive atmospheric entry. So it could land as a solid mass and maybe there's hardware that will survive, or more likely it will land in the ocean and sink.... 
50 Year Old Venus Spacecraft Is About To Land On EARTH????? | 9:33 
Scott Manley | 1.78M subscribers | 110,567 views | April 29, 2025
50 Year Old Venus Spacecraft Is About To Land On EARTH????? | 9:33 | Scott Manley | 1.78M subscribers | 110,567 views | April 29, 2025

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; russia; science; space; ussr; venus
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0:04·hello it's Scott Manley here i
0:06·occasionally talk about spacecraft
0:08·falling back to Earth satellites that
0:10·burn up in the atmosphere and get
0:11·captured on somebody's you know
0:13·smartphone but uh we're actually
0:16·expecting a very old satellite to fall
0:18·back and this one is very different you
0:21·see 50 years ago March 31st 1972 the
0:24·Soviet Union launch a space mission and
0:27·we believe that this is a copy of a
0:29·veneer 8 this was another spacecraft
0:31·that was supposed to go to Venus
0:33·launched an amolia rocket it was common
0:36·at this time to build multiple copies of
0:38·spacecraft to increase the chances of
0:40·success and so like veneer 8 this was
0:42·supposed to go to Venus but something
0:44·went wrong and it ended up stuck in
0:46·Earth orbit now the Soviets would
0:49·quickly designate the spacecraft Cosmos
0:51·482 and 50 years later one of the things
0:55·from that launch is still in orbit but
0:58·not for ver very much longer we think
1:00·this spacecraft is going to fall to
1:02·Earth in the coming days or weeks now
1:04·over the years there's been some
1:06·discussion speculation uh you know
1:09·debating as to the identity the size the
1:12·nature of this object and some people
1:14·claim that it's like the crew stage some
1:16·people think it's lander some people
1:18·think it's just debris but uh there's
1:20·one guy that wrote that an article uh
1:23·Dutch satellite observer uh Marco
1:26·Longbrook he's somebody that has a clue
1:28·and he thinks that it's only the descent
1:30·module and this is partly based on
1:32·looking at the light curves that show
1:33·that it doesn't change much uh and the
1:36·ballistic coefficient this is something
1:38·that is designed to go through
1:40·atmospheres with relatively low drag and
1:43·so the interesting part about that is
1:45·this spacecraft is very likely to
1:47·survive its re-entry into Earth's
1:49·atmosphere after all it was designed to
1:52·handle re-entry through Venus's
1:54·atmosphere and most spacecraft most
1:56·satellites that are de-orbiting they
1:58·don't do that they burn up high in the
2:00·atmosphere and put on a pretty light
2:02·show rather than drop dropping big
2:05·chunks of spacecraft onto the ground big
2:08·chunks of Soviet era spacecraft so yeah
2:11·Cosmos 482 blasted off from Bonur 4 days
2:15·after uh Veneera 8 right they probably
2:19·had basically the identical the same
2:21·ship design but unlike its sister ship
2:23·Cosmos 482 got stuck in this really
2:26·eccentric orbit so this orbit was like
2:29·200 km by 9800 km a 52°ree inclination
2:34·and the reason for this is the stage
2:37·that was supposed to inject it into the
2:38·departure orbit stopped early either it
2:41·had a failure in its engines or its uh
2:45·timing system shut down early we're not
2:47·really clear but what happened was
2:49·spacecraft is stuck in this orbit now
2:52·western military space tracking networks
2:54·they are of course watching all these
2:56·launches they find a number of items
2:58·from this launch there's another stage
3:00·or two two stages in these eccentric
3:03·orbits there's some stages in low earth
3:05·orbit and over time these things have
3:07·dis disappeared but importantly about 90
3:10·days after the initial launch the uh
3:14·spacecraft splits into two and this is
3:17·consistent with a Venusbound
3:21·spacecraft you know separating its
3:23·descent stage from the cruise stage in
3:26·anticipation of finally landing on Venus
3:29·and the interesting thing about this is
3:32·I guess that they kick themselves apart
3:33·at about you know maybe 10 m/s or less
3:37·not a huge amount of speed but because
3:39·it's in this highly eccentric orbit that
3:42·changes the orbit sufficiently that one
3:45·part burns up in
3:47·1981 right so that lasts less than 10
3:50·years whereas another part which is
3:52·about to come down that's lasted more
3:54·than 50 years so um that's why you know
3:58·that's the part that we've been
3:59·following all the other parts have gone
4:00·this is the last part from this
4:02·particular launch and that eccentric
4:05·orbit like as it comes down close to the
4:07·earth it's had a little bit of drag all
4:09·the time and what happens is the apogee
4:11·gets lower and lower faster than the
4:13·perigee the perigee has been pretty much
4:14·constant the whole time and as of like
4:17·tonight it's in a 380 by 154 km orbit so
4:22·it's come down from like 10,000 to 300
4:25·and it's dropping by about 10 km per day
4:28·so it's going to come down it's
4:31·eventually going to get a near
4:33·circularized orbit and it's going to
4:35·fall somewhere over the Earth it'll plow
4:38·into the atmosphere if it's able to
4:41·handle re-entry it should come through
4:43·the hypersonic phase and maybe
4:45·decelerate to as slow as 70 m/s or about
4:49·160 mph if we assume it's built the same
4:54·as Vaniraa 8 it would be designed with a
4:56·parachute but that's not likely to make
4:59·a difference because firstly that
5:00·parachute is designed for Venus's much
5:03·thicker denser atmosphere and also that
5:06·parachute almost certainly requires
5:08·battery power to operate and that will
5:10·be in short supply after 50 years in
5:13·space so this spacecraft is going to
5:17·slow down survive entry and then fall
5:19·through the atmosphere like a rock and
5:21·smash into the ground probably breaking
5:23·apart like an egg a giant 500 kg Soviet
5:28·space egg now we don't know exactly
5:31·where it will come come down because we
5:33·don't know when it will come down and
5:35·it's moving across the Earth at almost 8
5:37·km/s so if you can't don't know when you
5:40·definitely don't know where odds are it
5:43·will be somewhere over the ocean because
5:45·most of the Earth is ocean but if it
5:47·comes down on land that could be
5:49·especially interesting it will smash
5:51·into the ground and you break apart it
5:54·will probably deliver a bunch of ancient
5:55·Soviet space technology to Earth and
5:59·there will no doubt be souvenirs and
6:01·stuff to collect it will be really cool
6:03·to see some of this stuff perhaps uh
6:05·looked at by museums or the worst sold
6:08·on eBay the problem is that we can't
6:10·really time the the descent exactly
6:13·because uh Earth's atmosphere is
6:15·constantly changing as the solar
6:17·activity goes up and down on a short
6:19·time scale the upper atmosphere can
6:21·balloon out very quickly and then sink
6:23·down over time now we do know that it
6:26·has to land somewhere between 50° north
6:29·and 50° 2° south because that is the
6:32·orbital inclination that is the only
6:35·place that it can access but that still
6:38·covers a huge part of the planet Earth
6:41·now the sister spacecraft Vanera 8 that
6:44·was has the distinction of being the
6:47·second spacecraft to land on Venus and
6:50·by the way while it was officially
6:51·called Vanera 8 there were actually 16
6:54·prior probes that were sent to Venus but
6:58·only seven of which were successful most
7:00·of them were trapped in low Earth orbit
7:01·or worse and Cosmos 482 it was
7:05·presumably going to be called Veneer 9
7:07·if it hadn't failed and got stuck in
7:09·orbit so yeah Vaneer 8 it uh flew it
7:12·launched on 27th of March and it got to
7:15·Venus uh 22nd of July 1972 it hit the
7:19·atmosphere decelerated and then
7:22·descended under parachute taking 55
7:24·minutes or so to reach the surface
7:26·during this time it was doing science
7:28·all the way down for example it measured
7:31·light levels and it showed that the
7:33·light levels uh the way the light levels
7:35·worked it showed that there was a
7:37·definitive cloud layer that disappeared
7:39·after a certain altitude and they also
7:41·showed that the light levels on the
7:43·surface of the planet were sufficient
7:45·that they could actually take images
7:47·using cameras it had a gammaray
7:50·spectrometer on board which measured the
7:52·various radioactive elements and
7:55·isotopes in the surface of the planet
7:56·you know potassium uranium thorium and
7:59·then using their various ratios
8:01·geologists could determine that the
8:03·surface of Venus was probably consistent
8:06·with alkaline volcanic bassalts that we
8:08·find on Earth but Veneer 9 again it's
8:12·going to have the same technology on
8:13·board very likely it doesn't have
8:15·anything it's not going to have anything
8:17·dangerous on it might have some pyro
8:18·technics that are used to deploy like
8:21·parachutes and and stuff like that but
8:24·uh it's also by the way probably going
8:26·to have a fairly robust pressure shell
8:28·around it because it has to survive 80
8:31·atmospheres of pressure and so if it
8:33·does fall into the ocean there's a
8:36·nonzero chance that this thing might
8:38·actually land and maybe float I'm not
8:40·sure about that because it's a 500 kg
8:43·object it just might be too compact and
8:46·too dense it might just sink if it did
8:49·sink it could sink pretty deep but then
8:51·again it is going to have to survive
8:52·landing at you know 160 m an hour but
8:56·yeah over the next few days we'll be
8:58·watching this if anything interesting
8:59·happens uh you know if we get any cool
9:02·photos that would be awesome if not uh
9:04·well that'll just be another you know
9:07·relic of the Soviet era getting lost i'm
9:10·Scott Manley fly safe

1 posted on 04/29/2025 6:12:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 04/29/2025 6:13:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe it’ll hit Moscow....................


3 posted on 04/29/2025 6:15:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

Land? No. Crash? Yes.


4 posted on 04/29/2025 6:16:11 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

5 posted on 04/29/2025 6:19:16 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: SunkenCiv
I stopped watching Scott Manley when it became apparent on his X feed and YT comments that he's a woke moron.

His videos could be interesting from time to time, but to be honest, I'm up to my eyeballs in my current work - my brain has no more room for space factoids.

(If that means there's a chance a Venus Probe barrels in and ends up probing Uranus instead, and there was something I could have done to stop it, well, so be it.)

6 posted on 04/29/2025 6:22:33 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: SunkenCiv

Awesome. It’s like those soldiers on tank maneuvers near the Black Hills who got attacked by the Sioux. Oh wait, sorry, that was an episode of Twilight Zone.

Open the pod bay doors!


7 posted on 04/29/2025 6:23:31 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SunkenCiv

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_8


8 posted on 04/29/2025 6:29:23 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: SunkenCiv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhkyyCvUHk


9 posted on 04/29/2025 6:30:38 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My internet store only sells brick and mortar. Call me.)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Thank you that was my first thought!! LOL Oscar Goldman is NOT compromised!


10 posted on 04/29/2025 6:32:21 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: SunkenCiv

Once I know it’s AI (voice and info) I stop watching and listening. Mostly sanitized info, I notice.
As an unrelated video topic about “one hit wonders” the narrator will say some completely insipid comment like “the raucous intro to the song was beloved by many fans”. Swear to God?

Or when speaking about bankrupt restaurant chains a comment like, “eventually the business failed due to changing customers tastes, and some possible non-optimal business decisions”...Swear to God?


11 posted on 04/29/2025 6:32:55 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: Moleman

How could it not be?! Lol.


12 posted on 04/29/2025 6:33:39 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: Yossarian
I stopped watching Scott Manley when it became apparent on his X feed and YT comments that he's a woke moron.

I used to watch him regularly. Last year, in June I think, his rocket drawing he begins his show with was all rainbow colored.

The only thing I could think of was he was showing support for f@ggots, and so I stopped watching him. Have never watched him since.

13 posted on 04/29/2025 6:33:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SunkenCiv
This is ground control to Major Tom

You've really made the grade.....

14 posted on 04/29/2025 6:36:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: SunkenCiv

We need Steve Austin!


15 posted on 04/29/2025 6:42:27 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Careful, that Venus Probe will rip your arm off!


16 posted on 04/29/2025 6:48:19 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: HYPOCRACY

Is that an early version of a Dalek?


17 posted on 04/29/2025 6:49:59 PM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: Red Badger

It will land in the middle of a Katy Perry concert.


18 posted on 04/29/2025 6:51:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: null and void

That’s a Venus probe that thought it was still on Venus and attacked Steve Austin.


19 posted on 04/29/2025 6:52:52 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: dforest

Or on Taylor Swift’s private island.............


20 posted on 04/29/2025 7:05:31 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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