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The Gates of Vienna have fallen
American Thinker ^ | 20 Apr, 2025 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 04/20/2025 5:05:02 AM PDT by MtnClimber

I’ve had sitting on my computer for a few days an essay by Rod Dreher, an American conservative who now lives in Hungary, the only country in Europe making a stand for traditional values and refusing to accept unlimited Islamic immigration. From his perch in Hungary, Dreher has written about his conversations with ordinary Europeans, who believe that civil war is imminent, a war that will see those who share European values arrayed against those who have embraced leftism and Islam.

Dreher’s essay opens by telling readers about a hugely popular podcast entitled “The Coming British Civil War.” On it, David Betz, a King’s College, London, professor who is an expert on civil wars, opines that the UK is on the verge of a civil war. Writes Dreher:

Betz argues that the United Kingdom now has all the traditional hallmarks of a society on the verge of violent civil conflict. He mentions the collapse of faith in British institutions, the two-tier justice system, Islamic radicalization, and the polarization wrought by official multiculturalism, among other factors.

The UK is not the only European nation that is being driven to the breaking point by the stresses that the ruling elites have placed upon their ancient cultures. The same is true in France, where the ruling class has conveniently decided to lock away Marine Le Pen, the one person who is currently standing athwart the French political system yelling “Stop.”

Meanwhile, in Germany, the AfD party, which opposes unlimited Muslim immigration, is being blackballed, blacklisted, and sidelined. European elites, just like America’s Democrats, believe that “democracy” applies only to votes for their people and policies.

Dreher says that his private conversations reveal that ordinary people agree with Betz:

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: jihad; leftism
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1 posted on 04/20/2025 5:05:02 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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It sure seems that this is what the leftists and muslims want.


2 posted on 04/20/2025 5:05:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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I’m currently reading “Live Not By Lies” by Dreher. An excellent review of how Christians maintained their faith while under communist oppression. And now we have a new oppression, pretty much the same as the last one. European conservatives need to stock up on bats.


3 posted on 04/20/2025 5:09:34 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: MtnClimber

Yep.


4 posted on 04/20/2025 5:10:33 AM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: MtnClimber

If he has not yet been dissuaded from telling his story, it will not be long. Two guys will show up and ask to hear of his tale, then return or not leave until they see something written. He will be told that he can be held responsible for spreading violence. Cease and desist. That’s if he isn’t picked up and detained.


5 posted on 04/20/2025 5:12:29 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: MtnClimber

Stock-up on popcorn! This should be entertaining if nothing else.


6 posted on 04/20/2025 5:18:41 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Twotone

Bats vs AK47s…

That won’t end well for the people with the bats.

Besides… you have to have the WILL to USE the bat; that instinct for racial self preservation has been erased.

The article is correct; theyre already gone.


7 posted on 04/20/2025 5:27:21 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MtnClimber
Because they hate

Lebanon use to be a Christian country. An Islamic invasion changed that. The book is by a survivor of that war and clearly a warning to the rest of us.

8 posted on 04/20/2025 5:33:18 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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The transformation happened very quickly. Today, half of Vienna's elementary school children are Muslim. Before Merkel's Million Man Muslim March in 2015, it was near zero percent. Here on FR back in 2015, we all predicted Merkel's action would lead to total disaster.

ISLAMIFICATION: Austria is on the brink of becoming a Muslim majority nation. Today the majority of students in Vienna elementary schools are Islamic migrants. Ethnic Austrians are being displaced.

9 posted on 04/20/2025 5:35:13 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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There was a recent incident where a muslim attempted a robbery & was chased out by the locals who proceeded to kill him with a baseball bat. Of course, THEY are all now in jail. But if a few politicians were taken out with bats, things might start to change.

They really need to start with cutting off welfare to migrants. And enforce bigamy laws. To allow muslims to come in with four wives & umpteen children, all on the public dole, is ridiculous.

There are ways to start changing things. I hope they have the will to do it.


10 posted on 04/20/2025 5:36:17 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: Nateman

Joel Rosenberg’s book The Islamic AntiChrist clearly lays out what awaits.


11 posted on 04/20/2025 5:46:33 AM PDT by EliRoom8 ( -- )
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To: MtnClimber

The last time hard times made strong men, we also had men who were well-educated. Today we have few of either.
And we are not in hard times yet, anyway.
Right now, from a historical viewpoint, it looks like the war will be (in the distant future) between Islam and China. Either will put up with the other, when one prevails, since it doesn’t matter much what your slaves think as long as they function as slaves, to your satisfaction.
But we are a long way from the Dark Age, unless something goes nuclear.


12 posted on 04/20/2025 5:49:44 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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Right now, from a historical viewpoint, it looks like the war will be (in the distant future) between Islam and China.

Wow, you have no idea what's going on. The war will be Islam vs. West well before Islam vs. China. There are no Islamic settlements in Beijing, Shanghai, or Guangzhou (Canton). There are enormous Islamic settlements in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels, Stockholm, Oslo, Vienna, etc...

13 posted on 04/20/2025 6:00:01 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: MtnClimber

American Thinker is unreadable with all the pop ups.


14 posted on 04/20/2025 6:12:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (My Bearded Lady neighbor is an "Intimacy Coach" from the shed w/ Palestinian & Gay flags.)
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To: Twotone
There are ways to start changing things. I hope they have the will to do it.

Hope, a helluva drug.

Hope can be useful if the bullets are actually flying, and the bombs falling.

After WW1, they (Europeans) hoped it had been the war to end all wars. They hoped Hitler didn't mean what he wrote, and meant what he said to their hopeful leaders. This was all in a single human lifetime, a generation. They should have been preparing, preventing, not hoping and kicking the can down the road.

Today, Europeans are actively inviting their enemies into their homeland, and their enemies are busily making children. If the French had done that for the Germans, the Germans would have won France in a generation, without any messy war.

Today, just give the muslims your seat at the table, and the moral high ground (love your enemy!), and hope someone has the will to prevent them from enslaving and killing your descendants.

15 posted on 04/20/2025 6:12:41 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

And I think you have no idea, but I try to be polite here. The West is all out of fight.


16 posted on 04/20/2025 6:14:19 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Buttons12

A lot of the blame for that goes to the Austrian with the moustache.


17 posted on 04/20/2025 6:15:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Buttons12

We have been doing much the same with our leftists, letting them silence us & run roughshod over us. But finally we found a leader willing to fight for us, & we decided to fight with him. Europe needs good leaders. Unfortunately, they’re all being side-lined legally (really illegally). People should be voting for them, regardless of whether their name is printed on the ballot. And others need to step into the fight. Things can change. It just takes the will to do it.


18 posted on 04/20/2025 6:17:57 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: Buttons12
The West is all out of fight.

It seems that way to some, but I don't think so. The next great war will be West vs. Islam, and it will be brutal like WW1/WW2, the Napoleonic Wars, and the Thirty Years War. And I don't know who will win.

19 posted on 04/20/2025 6:21:03 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Uncle Miltie
American Thinker is unreadable with all the pop ups.

I use Duck Duck Go for my browser. It has an ad blocker so I don't get pop-ups.

20 posted on 04/20/2025 6:24:43 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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