Posted on 03/01/2025 11:04:27 AM PST by OneVike
This is a simple question, but one that needs you to seriously consider before you respond. This is because, when you think about it, you will then be confronted with the reality that most of the wars America has been in since the end of WWII have nothing to do with our national interests.
Now we could argue whether or not WWI was in our best interest. Yet since the end of WWII, other than a very few instance, our military actions have almost exclusively been because of problems caused by European nations. (Both Western and Eastern nations) Mind you, I speak historically, so you may have to go back to choices made by European countries years before a conflict began. Some problems fester quite some time before the lid blows, yet the original problem was created years earlier.
Many many American lives and trillions of dollars have been waisted over the last 100 years because Europeans seldom gets along with each other or even with the rest of the World. When I look into the genesis of wars we ended up in, especially since WWII, I continually see European countries convincing American war hawks to step in and help.
It is a fact that the vast majority of wars around the World in the 20th century has been caused by European colonialism due to their desire to expand their power and influence for resources which they themselves lack. Yes, I will add Eastern Europe into this, which means Russia also, whether it be as the Soviet Union or as Russia under Putin. Yes communism is a real threat, yet if you truly look at the way European countries went around the world colonizing countries for the specific purpose of gaining their resources, then you will see how the local citizens were easily persuaded to join the communist's in a desire to get their country back. OK, blame them for being ignorant of what communism means, yet at the time the bigger enemy was the Western European nations.
Now I do not claim America is totally guiltless, nor do I claim the communists were the good guys. I look at the genesis of the problems. A big moment in Europe was when Truman decided to do the European leaders a favor by agreeing drawing the lines of who will police which areas that were previously under Nazi control. Adding insult to injury, Truman then pushed for the Marshall plan that helped rebuild ONLY Western European countries. Amazing how they conveniently left the Eastern countries to depend upon the communist Soviet Union for help. It is well documented that the Marshall plan pushed Stalin into a corner, which led him to eventually lock Eastern Europe into slavery for the next 50 years which led to the Cold War. The 4 year Marshal plan from 1948 to 1951 was a $13.3 billion (equivalent to $173.8 billion in 2025) should never ever had taken place.
We could also go back to the end of WWI when European leaders decided to divide up the Middle East into various countries by putting their hand picked dictators in power, instead of setting up Democracies. A problem they doubles down on after WWII, by removing some and putting new dictators in power. Neither time did they demand democratic rule. To this day the Middle East continuously has problems because the vast majority were once oppressed by dictatorial leaders who benefited from Western money for the oil, then later by Islam rulers we helped to overthrow the dictators we put in place. So now Islam is rearing it's Dark Age ugly head by becoming the lesser of two evils between the Islamic leaders and the tyrannical dictatorships installed by Western Europeans after WWI and WWII.
Today, these Islamic extremists are moving into Africa, which have also suffered through the years from both Western European colonization and Eastern European expansion via the Soviet Union. Consider this, outside of the very Northern parts of Africa, most of Africa has been divided up and colonized by European countries to satisfy their hunger of natural resources they lack. Like the Middle East, the people would became tired of their tyrannical rulers, and started grumbling for freedom from their European Lords.
Yet for too long these European countries refused to allow those nations to be free from their rule. Eventually, wanting freedom from the Western European countries so bad they would find allies in the Soviet Union (a Western European country) who helped them fight for what they thought was freedom. Like the Far Eastern countries, these people were clueless of the ramifications of making deals with communists, because they just wanted freedom. After all, the colonizing nations of Europe had allowed the problems to fester so long and get so bad that most of the continent would eventually became an open sore. Yet today, we hear these leftists in Europe continually accuse the United States of creating the problems they are guilty of.
This is one of the reasons I blame Europeans for many of Americas internal problems. Both Western and Eastern European countries have supported leftists causes in the USA to benefit Europe by funding politicians in America that push for laws and regulations which limit our ability to use out own resources. Mind you, America is so resource rich that we have no need to depend on the rest of the World. Yet today America suffers from the way the Communist Democrats, and Deep State Republicans, have through the years pushed laws and regulations that force businesses to move over seas while, making it illegal to even use our own resources like oil, wood, fish, land, etc. etc. etc. This has created a situation where Europe, South America, the Middle East and Africa, have all benefited from these anti-American policies. Which eventually just added to the conflicts around the World.
Add all this together and we can see how America has become nothing more than a tool of the rest of the World, thanks to our so-called friends across the pond in Europe. Now I get into the wars we find ourselves continually in. We pulled Europe out if 2 World Wars, and after the second one, we ended up becoming the the big brother who stepped in every time they had a problem. Other than 9/11, which in a round about way was Europe's fault as I pointed out pretty much every war from Vietnam and forward has come from problems stemming from Western and Eastern countries.
It has gotten so bad that Eisenhower's warning came true, the industrial complex mentality, has led America to become involved in every stupid military scrimmage that raises it's ugly head. Even though we have no direct national interest in them. At 68 years old, I have seen my share of wars, that American politicians continually claim is our responsibility. Well I for one am 100% in agreement with Donald Trump. It is high time we let the World take care of their own problems, instead of expecting America to bail them out every time.
Yes, we must again become isolated when it comes to war. We can still have the top notch best military to defend ourselves and keep the bad guys quaking in their boots, but it won't cost as much because we won't be supplying weapons the rest of the World needs to continue their warmongering ways. Besides, every time we step to help others in trouble, we are the ones who are always blamed, because in every war there is a loser, and the losers will eventually want to come after the ones dropping the bombs. AKA 9/11.
So, I say we should let them fight their own wars, and stop letting them turn is into the bad guy after we pull their ass out of the fire time and time again. Then, and only then can we truly make America great again. Which is why we elected Donald Trump.
Your thoughts?
Well, I think Trump said no to it yesterday. On live TV. Gave the invitee-turned-evacuee’s luch to the White House interns
No more
I missed the word “To” Could you fixe the title by adding the word, “To”?
Am I The Only One Tired Of Getting Into Wars We Have No Interest In? Why Do We Have To Always Fix Problems Created By Europe???
Whatever came of Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.
The Bush/Cheney crime family left office without saying.
Americans were tired of being dragged into Europe’s “forever wars” as far back as the Founding Fathers. That’s why they eschewed things like alliances and binding treaties: they were always part of the cause for the next war and tied the hands of subsequent administrations to avoid them.
It is our desire to sell goods to Europe that drives it.
All wars are bankers wars, Ukraine included.
They will buy our products anyway
Seems we had a hand in it, or do you forget Victoria Nuland?
Don’t forget the bankers, they helped.
Well, they keep fighting each other and blow each other up and destroyed her studies. They won’t be able to make anything they will have to buy them from us so they will either stop making more so they can have a thriving economy or they keep blowing themselves up and we can selling products, but why should we be involved and dropping the bombs
There are typically two sides to every political question.
Zelensky is trying to do the best for the people who voted for him.
Putin is trying to do the best for the people in Ukraine that favor Russia.
The result is conflict which has been bloody for over a decade.
A deal has to get made.
Efforts should be made to create an upside for the pro-EU Ukrainians.
I agree 110%. My experience began with Korea. I have disagreed with every military involvement since then.
I understand that but I’m going to the point where I don’t care let them blow each other up and waste your moms then blow each other up Europe is the one that created this problem we may have had Hillary or somebody involved but you know what is European that moved her into doing it? These people are evil let them destroy themselves unless you’re back up and take care of America let them blow themselves up I don’t care no more.
I’m on the side of President Trump. Peace through strength. I’d add to it though. If you need weapons to defend your borders we can sell ya some but we aren’t financing your border security.
Mind you Europeans were involved in getting Trump out of office. There was no war going on then.
Let them fix it they screwed it up
Woodrow Wilson destroyed the world.
Mind you Europeans were involved in getting Trump out of office. There was no war going on then.
Let them fix it they screwed it up
Yes,
It’s ultimately about money most of the time.
We try hard to hide that fact, and we provide facade arguments that appear to be moral.
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