Posted on 02/14/2025 9:28:36 AM PST by tsomer
Judge Joe Brown reveals the origins and foundations of current legal attitudes concerning property, revealing that the basic concepts have roots that extend back to the days of Absolutism. As one who always carried the notion that our legal system grew out of the enlightenment and the writings of John Locke, I find his commentary startling and now wonder how much I need to readjust my layman's prior conception of the law.
"Private property" says to me that the Constitution recognizes private ownership of property. Not use of state owned property.
Your premise is correct. Yet the reality is that you rent the land you supposedly own through payment of property taxes to the state.
Therefore, there are four states that do not have property taxes.
Some states have waivers for real estate taxes. Louisiana is one of those states.
The Homestead Exemption. I’ve owned several houses in Louisiana.
“fee simple’
NOT SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE RENTING THE LAND-—
YOU ARE PAYING FOR FIRE DEPTS/ POLICE-Sheriffs/ streets/ street lights/ stop signs/parks/Libraries/SCHOOLS.
But my reason for bringing up the subject is that taxes are not what dictates ownership, because no one owns any land, they just have the right to use the land at their discretion. If the state or even local officials deem that their land would have better use for the community, then they can use eminent domain to pay just compensation for that land to redirect that land's use. There have been times that the use of eminent domain to seize someone's land use rights are overruled, but that is rare.
Judge Joe Brown is absolutely correct, and his statement was succinctly stated. 🙂👍
OK, 4 states don’t have state property taxes. But is there anywhere that doesn’t have local property taxes (county tax and if applicable city tax) to support schools and local services?
The railroads were ruthless. They tricked the Senecas in New York, into putting their land on a 99 year lease over 100 years ago.
Bart : Mongo, why would Hedley Lamarr care about where the choo-choo goes?
Mongo : Don’t know. Mongo only pawn in game of life.
I dare you to stop paying your property tax. That’ll show you that you truly are just “renting” the land from bureaucrats.
TN may not have a state property tax, but I pay both city & county property taxes on my home.
That's the heart of the matter, the Bill of Rights recognizes property, but Judge Brown (who I respect) states that what we understand as "property" is only what the sovereign US government allows us to hold.
It seems we grafted a medieval tradition into the legal machinery of this republic. While the consistency of a posited sovereign has obvious practical use, it's also provides the government power to seize what we own or compel us to do what we wouldn't do otherwise.
It's the license to confiscate a guitar on a clerk's suspicion that the headstock is decorated with the shell of an endangered mollusk. It's why cops can raid and trash your home without any obligation to restore what they broke. It's why businesses that burned during a riot can not even afford to have the rubble hauled away, let alone rebuild. Or why your neighbor could regrade his property so that yours is inundated with rainwater. It's why a judge in Washington DC could throw an innocent protestor into prison for 10 years without fear of accountability.
It seems it all refers back to this monarchist residue. If we have to have a sovereign, let's go back to a monarchy; democracy with sovereign power is scary.
At 18:00, he even suggests that we, as people, also belong as “resources” to “the state.” He used the military draft as an example. Maybe he is right about the law, but, yes, it does sound antithetical to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Tennessee has no income tax. They do have property tax (or quite a few counties have it).
But again, the point was that it is not the tax that prevents people from actually owning property, it is the eminent domain law as a legal power possessed by governments to take over private property for public use, after providing fair compensation to the property owner.
If you look at who I responded to, you will understand why I offered up the statement. 🙂👍
As you all correctly state, those taxes are to fund other community needs, such as schools & other maintenance of publicly used state owned buildings, roads & so on.
Oregon doesn’t have state property taxes, they are collected by the county. I thought that’s how all states did it.
I think those four property tax free states have NO property taxes at all.
Louisiana does have a homestead exemption. When I lived there it was the first $75k of the home you live in - this was 25-30 years ago, and there were many houses selling for less than that.
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