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How Many People Lived in North America Before the Arrival of Europeans?
Archaeology Magazine ^ | February 5, 2025 | Madelein Mackie

Posted on 02/08/2025 7:05:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Science Magazine reports that Robert Kelly of the University of Wyoming and his colleagues compiled more than 60,000 radiocarbon dates for artifacts from the United States and Canada. Then, assuming that the amount of radiocarbon data collected from a given region reflects its population at that time, the researchers made comparisons between the possible size of the populations over time and between regions. The study suggests that North American populations grew for about 2,000 years and peaked around A.D. 1150, then the size of the population decreased by at least 30 percent by 1500. Yet populations grew and declined in different regions at different times, likely reflecting regional climate shifts, disease, and warfare. "The entire continent is not in lockstep," Kelly said. For example, the population of Cahokia, which is situated near the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers, had an estimated population of more than 10,000 by A.D. 1100. Droughts are thought to have brought about a reduction in crops, population collapse, and migration to other regions, leading to the abandonment of Cahokia by 1350. Overall, the population of North America began to rebound around 1450, the researchers suggest, but was then decimated by disease, violence, and loss of territory following the arrival of Europeans.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; precolumbian
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1 posted on 02/08/2025 7:05:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

2 posted on 02/08/2025 7:05:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t see that they answered their own question.

I read it because I am curious as to the answer.


3 posted on 02/08/2025 7:09:20 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Nitzy: New and Improved! Now with only 66% anti-semitic posts!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nomads need about 50 sq miles per person. So, in North America, probably no more than 20 million. That’s still pretty crowded by nomadic standards, so it can’t be more than that under the best conditions. Even if you account that some natives did have urbanization.


4 posted on 02/08/2025 7:09:40 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: Uncle Miltie; SunkenCiv
I am curious as to the answer.

Three.

5 posted on 02/08/2025 7:10:50 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: DoodleBob

Not 42?


6 posted on 02/08/2025 7:11:22 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Nitzy: New and Improved! Now with only 66% anti-semitic posts!)
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To: SunkenCiv

132,618

5.56mm


7 posted on 02/08/2025 7:13:22 PM PST by M Kehoe (Thank you Jesus. )
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To: SunkenCiv
"How Many People Lived in North America Before the Arrival of Europeans?'

And the answer is??? Nowhere to be found in the article.

But this caught my eye: "Yet populations grew and declined in different regions at different times, likely reflecting regional climate shifts, disease, and warfare." Climate changed? Well, how do you like that?

8 posted on 02/08/2025 7:14:07 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So is this a trick question? A multiple choice question? Why did I waste my time searching for the answer only to be told we don’t know. We didn’t try to estimate the number.


9 posted on 02/08/2025 7:14:08 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: Uncle Miltie

It’s Price is Right rules.

I’m sticking with three. A guy, a gal, and a kid.


10 posted on 02/08/2025 7:15:14 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I inferred the answer based on how many square miles a person needs to live the nomadic lifestyle, even if you had some adaptions in order to reduce the need to be nomadic.


11 posted on 02/08/2025 7:16:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: Uncle Miltie

The actual number of Indians is up for dispute. But interestingly enough, Sen. Elizabeth Warren claims to be related to all of them.


12 posted on 02/08/2025 7:17:27 PM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: Jonty30

Would proximity to a sea coast be a factor?


13 posted on 02/08/2025 7:18:55 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Yes, as well as resources. I took the North America square miles and multiplied by 2/3, to account for the north. And it’s probably further reduced by the deserts.


14 posted on 02/08/2025 7:20:22 PM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: DoodleBob

No dog? With a yard that big, why not get a dog?


15 posted on 02/08/2025 7:23:09 PM PST by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: Jonty30

“Nomads need about 50 sq miles per person. So, in North America, probably no more than 20 million. That’s still pretty crowded by nomadic standards, so it can’t be more than that under the best conditions. Even if you account that some natives did have urbanization.”

I’ve heard 2 to 3 million. Roughly the amount that our country could sustain had the Russians retaliated for the Neocons shooting missiles into their country.


16 posted on 02/08/2025 7:23:11 PM PST by BobL
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To: gundog

Dogs aren’t people.

I’m willing to allow a dog to be part of the family of 3.


17 posted on 02/08/2025 7:25:29 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yes. Horrible article. wish I could shove shove a tarantula into the mouth of the writer.


18 posted on 02/08/2025 7:28:06 PM PST by MNDude
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

One of the most effective retorts to climatards is to constantly point out all the many, many major changes in climate that exist in recorded history and from paleoclimatology research.


19 posted on 02/08/2025 7:41:28 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: SteveH
>>proximity to a sea coast be a factor?

Well, there was a tribe that lived on the upper Texas coast that survived/thrived on grasshoppers when the French found them.

20 posted on 02/08/2025 7:41:32 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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