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Shocking new theory rewrites story of where dinosaurs really came from
Study Finds ^ | January 27, 2025 | Staff

Posted on 01/27/2025 10:45:56 AM PST by Red Badger

LONDON — The mystery of dinosaur origins has taken an unexpected turn toward the equator. While paleontologists have long searched southern regions for clues about where these magnificent creatures first evolved, new research suggests we may have been looking in the wrong latitude altogether. A new study indicates that the first dinosaurs may have emerged in Earth’s ancient tropics, forcing scientists to reconsider long-held theories about their origins.

For years, paleontologists believed dinosaurs originated in what is now southern South America and southern Africa, since the oldest unequivocal dinosaur fossils come from late Carnian rock formations (around 230 million years ago) in these regions. However, these earliest assemblages already show remarkable diversity in both anatomy and species variety, hinting at an even earlier evolutionary history that remains undiscovered.

“Dinosaurs are well studied but we still don’t really know where they came from. The fossil record has such large gaps that it can’t be taken at face value,” explains lead author Joel Heath, a PhD student at University College London Earth Sciences and London’s Natural History Museum, in a statement.

The research team analyzed the distribution patterns of early dinosaurs and their close relatives using sophisticated computational models that account for gaps in fossil sampling across different regions. Their results, published in Current Biology, frequently support the emergence of dinosaurs in low-latitude regions of the ancient supercontinent Gondwana — essentially the tropical areas of what would become Africa and South America.

“Our modelling suggests that the earliest dinosaurs might have originated in western, low-latitude Gondwana. This is a hotter and drier environment than previously thought, made up of desert- and savannah-like areas,” says Heath.

During this early period, dinosaurs were far from dominant. They shared their world with various reptilian cousins, including pseudosuchians — an abundant group containing species up to 10 meters long that were ancestors to modern crocodiles — and pterosaurs, the first animals to achieve powered flight. While their descendants would later grow to enormous sizes, the earliest dinosaurs were relatively small, comparable to modern chickens or dogs, walked on two legs, and were likely omnivorous.

Continental drift: The movement of mainlands on the planet Earth in different periods from 250 million years ago to resent. (Credit: Noiel on Shutterstock)

Most notably, the tropical origin hypothesis gained its strongest support when the researchers considered silesaurids (early dinosaur relatives) as primitive ornithischian dinosaurs. This placement helps explain a long-standing puzzle: why we don’t find any ornithischian dinosaur fossils before the Early Jurassic period, despite knowing the group must have existed earlier based on evolutionary relationships.

Modern tropical regions like northern Africa and the Amazon rainforest have yielded relatively few dinosaur fossils compared to temperate zones. “So far, no dinosaur fossils have been found in the regions of Africa and South America that once formed this part of Gondwana. However, this might be because researchers haven’t stumbled across the right rocks yet, due to a mix of inaccessibility and a relative lack of research efforts in these areas,” Heath explains.

The study indicates that the entire radiation of archosaurs likely occurred within low-latitude Gondwana following the devastating end-Permian mass extinction about 252 million years ago. From these tropical origins, different lineages then dispersed across Pangaea into various ecological and climatic zones during the Late Triassic period.

Professor Philip Mannion, senior author from UCL Earth Sciences, notes: “Our results suggest early dinosaurs may have been well adapted to hot and arid environments. Out of the three main dinosaur groups, one group, sauropods, which includes the Brontosaurus and the Diplodocus, seemed to retain their preference for a warm climate, keeping to Earth’s lower latitudes.”

Understanding dinosaur origins requires not only examining where their fossils have been found but also considering where they haven’t been found, and why. This study suggests that the next breakthrough in dinosaur evolution might come not from new fossil discoveries, but from better understanding the biases and gaps in our current knowledge.

Paper Summary

Methodology

The research team constructed three different evolutionary trees reflecting competing hypotheses about early dinosaur relationships. They calibrated these trees against geological time using two different methods and incorporated information about potential geographic and climatic barriers to movement across ancient Pangaea. Crucially, they developed a novel approach to account for sampling biases in the fossil record by marking areas lacking any terrestrial vertebrate fossils as potentially containing undiscovered species rather than assuming definitive absence.

Results Dinosaurs became the dominant terrestrial vertebrates only after major volcanic eruptions eliminated many of their reptilian competitors around 201 million years ago. The modeling results suggest that both dinosaurs and other reptiles may have originated in low-latitude Gondwana before spreading outward to southern Gondwana and Laurasia, the northern supercontinent that later became Europe, Asia, and North America.

Limitations

The researchers acknowledge that their choice of geographic areas may introduce some bias due to size differences between regions. However, they argue that fossil preservation typically occurs in concentrated deposits regardless of region size, and sampling quality doesn’t necessarily correlate with area. The study also couldn’t fully account for relative sampling intensity in areas with some fossil discoveries versus those with many.

Discussion and Takeaways

This study demonstrates how accounting for gaps in the fossil record can dramatically change our understanding of evolutionary history. It suggests that many early dinosaur fossils may remain undiscovered in modern tropical regions due to a combination of natural and human factors. The research also highlights the importance of considering early dinosaur relatives like silesaurids when reconstructing their origins.

Funding & Disclosures

The research was funded by the London NERC DTP and supported by funding from the Royal Society and the Leverhulme Trust. The study is Paleobiology Database official publication number 513.

Publication Information

The study “Accounting for sampling heterogeneity suggests a low paleolatitude origin for dinosaurs” was published in Current Biology on March 10, 2025. Lead author Joel A. Heath conducted the research with colleagues from University College London and the Natural History Museum London.


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1 posted on 01/27/2025 10:45:56 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!..................


2 posted on 01/27/2025 10:46:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Dinosaurs were created on 6th day along with man. See Genesis 1:24-31.


3 posted on 01/27/2025 10:49:13 AM PST by salmon76 ("Are you not entertained?" - Scott Jennings on CNN when asked about Trump cabinet picks 11/13/24)
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To: Red Badger

I believe dinosaurs are the offspring of the nephilim as outlined in Gen 6. Just like the evil spirits had sex with humans it is not far fetched to believe they had sex to create these creatures.

They also were NOT on the ark because they were slated to be wiped out in the flood


4 posted on 01/27/2025 10:49:41 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Red Badger; dfwgator

(Shocking new theory rewrites story of where dinosaurs really came from)

Newman??

https://youtu.be/e6FXdloCUOM?si=938oyllW7cH-ODfJ

Dodgson! We’ve got Dodgson here!!


5 posted on 01/27/2025 10:50:09 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: salmon76

The water dinos were on the 5th...........


6 posted on 01/27/2025 10:50:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

they’ve been migrating to washington dc for years...


7 posted on 01/27/2025 10:50:59 AM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁 )
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To: Red Badger

Omygosh. You mean the science on dinosaurs isn’t even settled yet?


8 posted on 01/27/2025 10:51:57 AM PST by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves, and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Red Badger

The bottom line is, it’s still a theory.


9 posted on 01/27/2025 10:52:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves, and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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10 posted on 01/27/2025 10:53:46 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Texas Eagle

No, but we apparently are positive the oceans will be boiling in about 20 years


11 posted on 01/27/2025 10:57:09 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Red Badger
Dinosaurs became the dominant terrestrial vertebrates only after major volcanic eruptions eliminated many of their reptilian competitors around 201 million years ago.

You'd think that volcanic eruptions and ensuing food shortages would have wiped out the big creatures, not the small guys.

Note that Greenland went with North America and left Europe behind. This supports President Trump's arguments.


12 posted on 01/27/2025 10:57:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Brings back memories, decades ago, when the Sinclair gas station had the dino dollars contest.

Sarcasm.....


13 posted on 01/27/2025 10:57:43 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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14 posted on 01/27/2025 11:00:00 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: jerod

15 posted on 01/27/2025 11:00:57 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Red Badger

Yes, but why would this be shocking?


16 posted on 01/27/2025 11:01:39 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Texas Eagle
Well, this was settled when we knew that dinosaurs came from the momma dinosaur's egg. But now, alas, we're no longer able to define what a momma dinosaur is. The damn thing could just as well be a male dinosaur who had his dinosaur pecker lopped off and has announced (or roared, to be precise) that he is now a girl dinosaur trying to figure out how to get an egg out of "there".
17 posted on 01/27/2025 11:03:32 AM PST by glennaro (2025: The year of America's rebirth as a Great (and Free) Republic)
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18 posted on 01/27/2025 11:03:50 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Texas Eagle

“You mean the science on dinosaurs isn’t even settled yet?”

We are on a second wave, notice how obese so many people are these days? We’re going to have to weigh them by tonnage rather than pounds.


19 posted on 01/27/2025 11:07:45 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Red Badger
That's ridiculous. We know they come from the hollow Earth. Where the Nazis have been breeding them as saddle animals for millions of years.


20 posted on 01/27/2025 11:07:53 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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