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FLASHBACK: AP "Fact Checked" Trump on Concerns of Lack of Water in California
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Posted on 01/09/2025 11:37:20 AM PST by TigerClaws

From linked AP 2019 article:

TRUMP: “Also, open up the ridiculously closed water lanes coming down from the North. Don’t pour it out into the Pacific Ocean. Should be done immediately. California desperately needs water, and you can have it now!”

THE FACTS: Trump’s point is irrelevant to battling wildfires.

“Fire suppression is not limited in any way by the availability of water,” Westerling said. “How does President Trump propose that these waters be used to reduce fire risk? Is he proposing to build a statewide sprinkler system with federal money?”

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2019; california; media; msm; trump; trumpwasright; water
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To: lurk

Carlin was right....

Saving endangered species is just one more arrogant attempt by humans to control nature. It’s arrogant meddling; it’s what got us in trouble in the first place.

Doesn’t anybody understand that? Interfering with nature. Over 90% - over, WAY over – 90% of all the species that have ever lived on this planet, ever lived, are gone! Pwwt! They’re extinct! We didn’t kill them all, they just disappeared.

That’s what nature does. They disappear these days at the rate of 25 a day and I mean regardless of our behavior. Irrespective of how we act on this planet, 25 species that were here today will be gone tomorrow.

Let them go gracefully. Leave nature alone. Haven’t we done enough?

We’re so self-important.

So self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these people kidding me? Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven’t learned how to care for one another, we’re gonna save the planet?


41 posted on 01/09/2025 1:10:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TigerClaws

The availability of water is a known, a given. The fire hydrant system can move X amount of water, limited by the refilling of the water towers which provide the pressure. It follows that you KNOW how much fire you can quench before you lose pressure. This factor traditionally directs how much preventive burning you do and where you put fire breaks. You might also have additional salt water pumping where practicable. It’s not fecking rocket science. California has been doing this a long time. So what the hell happened here?


42 posted on 01/09/2025 1:12:45 PM PST by TalBlack (Time to use the Law and the Power. Good luck Mr. President.)
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To: Owen

West coast ecology evolved to weather cycles spanning decades, from the Oregon Rockies to the coast all the way south through the Sierra Nevada.

The climate change sycophants absolutely hate the fact that the [cyclical] drought was broken by [cyclical] record rainfall, labelling it ‘extreme weather’ and an extension of ‘climate change’.

And now CA is back in the trough of the water cycle, during the latter of which all that vegetation thrived...and is now dead.

I recall reading some 15-20 years ago - yes, THAT recently - how the so-called ‘scientists’ had discovered a plant which excreted a resin during fire season which prevents ground absorption of rainfall during the wet cycles and fostered both flooding and repeat cycles of drought, wet, rapid undergrowth, vegetation die-off, fire, rinse/repeat.

But somehow in 2025 this cycle is unknown...and they’ll have us believe that these winds - Santa Ana Winds, as they’ve been known FOREVER - are something new.

Oh, and that wildfire is a threat that can be managed, combatted and eliminated (Hint: It can only be mitigated, no different than for earthquakes).

smh

But just you wait:

The lottery payout is soon to come to Newsom (I give it by next week).


43 posted on 01/09/2025 1:13:40 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: TalBlack

The parasite destroyed the host. The number of DEI hire know nothing / do nothings running things past the point of critical mass and there was a complete meltdown of the system.

You can have nonsense diversity hires in dole fields. Do it with planes and you get Boeing. Do it with a city and you get Detroit.


44 posted on 01/09/2025 1:17:29 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: V_TWIN

If DJT came up with a cure for cancer I swear if they had the dreaded disease many lunatic liberals would refuse to receive the treatment just because Trump was involved.

++++++++++

Your statement has already been somewhat shown to be true. Remember back in OCT2020 when PDJT was trying to roll out the China Virus Vaccine? None other than Kabala Harris told the public that she will not be taking any shot or vaccine that was developed by PDJT administration. Because you know, Orange man bad.


45 posted on 01/09/2025 1:56:20 PM PST by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: TigerClaws
“Fire suppression is not limited in any way by the availability of water,” Westerling said.

That one aged well. The "expert" might want to explain that to the firemen whose hoses ran dry yesterday.

"How does President Trump propose that these waters be used to reduce fire risk? Is he proposing to build a statewide sprinkler system with federal money?”

No, he was suggesting that the reservoirs be filled. The ones that weren't and ran dry.

46 posted on 01/09/2025 2:05:19 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Owen
About that 'lottery' I mentioned: Here's Stage I (and faster than I thought possible; I gave it 'next week')

Biden says federal government to cover 100% of costs for initial LA fire recovery


47 posted on 01/09/2025 4:36:44 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Indeed, and Central Valley farmers have been suffering for decades due to that stupid policy. Which is why I suspected Trump’s statement might be more about farmers getting squeezed than fire prevention.


48 posted on 01/09/2025 5:28:45 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: Owen
In the early 80s I was in California.

It rained. And rained. And rained some more. Roads were washing out. Floods were happening. And the weather guy said cheerfully, "But it is not helping the drought."

It was at that moment I knew there is something very special about California. If water falling from the sky is not helping your drought you have a major problem. Because that is all we got.

49 posted on 01/09/2025 5:36:38 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: AndyTheBear

Driving through the southern Central Valley and seeing all the dead orchards is so heartbreaking. Yet, in the northern end of the valley along 505 you see lots of new orchards getting planted. Go figure.


50 posted on 01/09/2025 5:48:45 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: TigerClaws

Pathetic propaganda from AP, pretending to be fact checking. There were a number of flawed “debunking” arguments in the article. But with regards to the particular claim that water availability is irrelevant to fire suppression, I think the AP was referring to fire prevention rather than the putting out of fires once they have started. And on that count, they’re STILL wrong. I believe Trump was at least partially referring to preventative measures like moistening particularly dry forest floor in strategic areas during vulnerable times of the year, such as the one we’re currently experiencing.


51 posted on 01/09/2025 6:06:01 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl; All

Thanks.

Turns out they turned off power to the hydrants! (See Daily Mail. Biden let it slip.)

Now this:

https://www.change.org/p/demand-the-immediate-resignation-of-mayor-karen-bass?source_location=search


52 posted on 01/09/2025 6:08:54 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Now that Zuckerberg has thrown in the towel on his fact-checkers, AP is jumping into the lurch. This AP ‘fact check’ tells you all you need to know about what ‘fact checking’ is all about - big brother mind control.


53 posted on 01/10/2025 6:07:10 AM PST by iontheball
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