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FLASHBACK: AP "Fact Checked" Trump on Concerns of Lack of Water in California
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Posted on 01/09/2025 11:37:20 AM PST by TigerClaws

From linked AP 2019 article:

TRUMP: “Also, open up the ridiculously closed water lanes coming down from the North. Don’t pour it out into the Pacific Ocean. Should be done immediately. California desperately needs water, and you can have it now!”

THE FACTS: Trump’s point is irrelevant to battling wildfires.

“Fire suppression is not limited in any way by the availability of water,” Westerling said. “How does President Trump propose that these waters be used to reduce fire risk? Is he proposing to build a statewide sprinkler system with federal money?”

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2019; california; media; msm; trump; trumpwasright; water
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To: Owen; All

Interesting.

Trump’s point was - in his recent posts - was that the reservoirs could’ve been filled and lasted the next decade BUT FOR actions by Newsome and the loons to protect the smelt fish.

They also laughed about raking and clearing the floor or bed of the areas with dry grass and shrubs. Cutting trees also out of the question.

As an FR member posted when this began: “Democrats love chaos. They’ll appoint a highly-paid committee to take three years to write a report nobody will read.”

The Fire Chief makes $650,000 a year for Los Angeles County. For 0% containment.

Now they’re trying to bring in actual firefighters from other areas, begging the mostly men they fired over not taking the COVID shot, and, of course, blaming ‘climate change’ for all of their failures.

Newsome is off of the 2028 candidate list after this massive failure. Perhaps some of the 80% Dem voting Pacific Palisades residents will wake up and vote for change next time. But... wouldn’t count on it.


21 posted on 01/09/2025 12:04:56 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: MayflowerMadam

The so called mayor said her 17 MILLION dollar budget cut to fire services had no Impact on this disaster......these people really live in an alternate reality. SMH


22 posted on 01/09/2025 12:05:24 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!ly)
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To: TigerClaws

AP is retarded and spinning especially the last one. Had water been provided year round it would not be super dry and ready to catch fire and burn so easily.


23 posted on 01/09/2025 12:06:05 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Maelstrom

bttt


24 posted on 01/09/2025 12:14:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: TigerClaws

The name of the ignorant shithead who wrote this “fact check”?


25 posted on 01/09/2025 12:15:33 PM PST by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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To: TigerClaws
This is great! What a find!

While looking at the AP "Fact Check," this popped up. These people are shamelessly begging for money now, just like NPR and PBS! How pathetic is that?


26 posted on 01/09/2025 12:17:31 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; All

Thank you. This is also interesting:

Mann Made Cinema
@Hotshot_Movie
A surprising thread on Florida wildfires:

Many are stunned by the line in our film: “Florida proactively burns more in one year than California has burned in the last 50 years”.

People always ask 2 big questions:

-California is *that* derelict?
-Florida has wildfires?

https://x.com/Hotshot_Movie/status/1818061293569356234


27 posted on 01/09/2025 12:18:44 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: AndyTheBear

Trump is talking about the horrible practice in CA of not having enough reservoirs to save the snowmelt runoff. The greeniacs block reservoirs every chance they get. California’s last major reservoir, New Melones Lake near Sonora (Tuolumne County), was constructed by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation in the 1970s.

The state had 20 million people when New Melones was built. Today it has 39 million people. Did water storage double in those 50 years? No, it did not increase one bit. That’s the crime. No water for ag, people, industry or firefighting. It all flows to the Pacific.


28 posted on 01/09/2025 12:20:40 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: Redleg Duke

I guess this ignoramus feels there’s no need for fire hydrants.


29 posted on 01/09/2025 12:21:01 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks for the info about the “Hotshot” movie. Looks interesting. I’m looking for something to watch now.

I’ve posted this a few times the past couple days. California’s grasslands before the Gold Rush in 1849 was all perennial grasses. These grasses were more naturally fire resistant. They stayed alive year round. The people who came to CA brought invasive, non-native grasses that are annuals. They grow quickly after winter rains, set seed, start dying in April, and are dead by May. They leave a huge fuel load behind after they die off. Plus, the invasive species are much more flammable than the original native grass species.

Wildfires in CA grasslands (not forest fires) are much worse than before the invasive species arrived. Today, you can only find native grasses in a few protected areas where volunteers work hard to keep out the invasive species. The whole state grass ecosystem was crowded out by the invasive species and they took over.


30 posted on 01/09/2025 12:27:21 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: TigerClaws

“Fire suppression is not limited in any way by the availability of water,” Westerling said.”

Google AI response:

“This statement is false; while some fire suppression systems do not rely on water, many traditional fire suppression methods, like sprinkler systems, are directly limited by the availability of water supply, making water availability a key factor in fire suppression capabilities.”


31 posted on 01/09/2025 12:28:38 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Right Brother

Maybr the millions of illegals and homeless could contribute fire suppressing liquid?


32 posted on 01/09/2025 12:32:53 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

33 posted on 01/09/2025 12:36:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: hoosierham

😂 Actually, you may have a good idea.


34 posted on 01/09/2025 12:38:14 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: TigerClaws

I have empathy for people who lose everything in a fire. However, after decades of their virtue signaling and willful ignorance of forest and water management I simply have nothing nice to say about them. They brought this on themselves. I do care about those who vote conservative because they know the truth.


35 posted on 01/09/2025 12:49:18 PM PST by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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To: Owen

About 80 miles from where I live is a place called the Mojave desert. A little further is a place called. Wait for it. Death Valley. If you think this place has a history of having plenty of water I don’t know what to tell you.


36 posted on 01/09/2025 12:55:36 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: dragnet2
How hard could it be to run a couple of pipes to the southwest U.S.

None at all since the Central Valley is open farmland which would barely be bothered by a pipeline from Sacramento to north of LA, and that's only if some water was used to produce food that we produce, sell, and consume.....right now the Delta smelt has brought Central Valley farming to a crawl.

I did business from 2000 to 2020 across the southern US, east to west. When Cali opted for the Delta smelt over farmers & food, I stopped all travel to Cali, doing business by tele instead. I refused to spend any time or money in that over-inflated state. Haven't been since...even from Arizona. they can go screw themselves

37 posted on 01/09/2025 12:56:06 PM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: TigerClaws

Wood makes fire burn.

Water puts it out.


38 posted on 01/09/2025 1:00:02 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Additionally, the feds in cooperation with Cali removed 4 dams for the benefit of salmon, losing God only knows how much water.

Sick in the head people over there.


39 posted on 01/09/2025 1:01:40 PM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: TigerClaws

How long before desperate people begin to turn against the little smelt fishes?


40 posted on 01/09/2025 1:07:42 PM PST by lurk (u)
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