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New Biden water heater ban will drive up energy prices for poor, seniors: expert
Fox Business via NY Post ^ | 1/05/25 | Michael Dorgan

Posted on 01/05/2025 3:18:34 AM PST by Libloather

The Biden administration is banning certain natural gas water heaters from the market as part of its climate change agenda, a move critics say will jack up energy costs for low-income and senior households.

The move in the final days of the administration will take non-condensing, natural gas-fired water heaters off the shelves by 2029 in a bid to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, which climate change advocates and President Biden say cause global warming.

The new rules will require new tankless gas water heaters to use about 13% less energy than today’s least efficient tankless models.

The rules apply to both non-condensing and condensing gas water heaters, but the rules hike efficiency requirements to a threshold that only condensing models can meet, effectively banning the cheaper but less efficient non-condensing models, according to The Washington Free Beacon. Condensing technology wastes less heat.

Consumers will be forced to buy more expensive models or cheaper non-instantaneous storage tank water heaters, which are less efficient than the models being banned by the DOE.

Tankless technology is often used when space is at a premium, such as in apartment buildings and in smaller homes, Diana Furchtgott-Ruth, director of the Center for Energy, Climate and Environment, wrote in The Daily Signal.

For instance, Rinnai America is the only company that produces tankless water heaters in the United States. Its tankless, non-condensing natural gas water heater sells for about $1,000 at Home Depot, compared to $1,800 for a condensing 75-gallon tank.

The new rules were published by the Department of Energy (DOE) the day after Christmas, although the agency did not make a public announcement. Fox Business has reached out to the DOE for comment.

Matthew Agen, the American Gas Association’s chief counsel for energy, blasted the move, labeling it “deeply concerning and irresponsible.”

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Let's go Brandon.
1 posted on 01/05/2025 3:18:34 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Can Trump reverse it?


2 posted on 01/05/2025 3:24:24 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Libloather

Who hates the poor while at the same time trying to create as many of them as possible? Answer: communists.


3 posted on 01/05/2025 3:30:40 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Libloather

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the condensing units need an electric exhaust fan as the exhaust is too cold to have the heat of the gas cause it to rise and go outside.


4 posted on 01/05/2025 3:37:22 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Mark17
I certainly hope so 🙏🙏🙏🛐🙏🙏🛐🙏

Tired of seeing Democrats make things more expensive for the middle class and the poor

What Democrat Joe Biden did to the food prices alone these last 4 years is outrageous

All according to plan




5 posted on 01/05/2025 3:38:11 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ....... as it was in the Days of Lot; They Ate, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Libloather

Since when did the executive branch have the authority to unilaterally ban consumer goods?


6 posted on 01/05/2025 3:38:39 AM PST by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: Mark17

Probably...But the problem is STATES are doing this...like NYS...and not sure what can be done about it....except maybe get Hochul out of there.


7 posted on 01/05/2025 3:51:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Libloather

It turnes out that the Green Agenda is nothing but MOLD!


8 posted on 01/05/2025 3:57:39 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: rottndog

Since they control governmental agencies to oversee every aspect of our lives. We can’t afford automobiles now because of the necessary can’t live without extras packed in them. You have to have airbags - no exceptions. You have to have 5 separate computers in your vehicle. You have to have back-up cameras in your vehicle. You have to pass their ever tightening exhaust test no matter the cost for the smallest amount of improvement. You will be priced out of everything that makes life livable. Your food supply costs will go up as nutrition and quality will decrease.


9 posted on 01/05/2025 4:40:13 AM PST by BipolarBob (I injured myself measuring radio frequencies. It still Hertz.)
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To: Libloather

There are many paranoids and paranoid EPA bureaucrats in the US, who fear natural gas use due to possible explosions. This is part of the drive to replace home water heaters, stoves, home gas appliances with electric ones.

I remember when Nancy Pelosi was a prime mover on electricity generation, on replacing coal-fired plants, with natural gas ones. California did this.
But these days global warming crackpots wage war on natural gas, due to CO2


10 posted on 01/05/2025 4:52:36 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Libloather
Gee, suggestion for Doge, let’s improve Government Employee production. Let’s start with call centers.

Call center productivity = (Total number of resolved calls / total number of handled calls) X 100.

Create a minimum level and fire those below that level! You know, no waste of energy, more efficient!

11 posted on 01/05/2025 4:53:34 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: Mark17

My understanding of a recent Supreme Court decision is that this stuff needs to be legislated by an act of Congress. The bureaucratic communists can no longer make up laws and enforce them.

So my venture is yes, this will be reversed by Trump.


12 posted on 01/05/2025 5:06:58 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: SaveFerris

You’re not giving due credit to the Bushes with the Patriot Act, etc.


13 posted on 01/05/2025 5:10:48 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“communism is not love. communism is a hammer we use to crush our enemies” Mao. guess who their enemies are.


14 posted on 01/05/2025 5:14:42 AM PST by Qwapisking (Q: know the difference between a petulant 6 y.o. and a liberal? A:age. L.Star )
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To: redfreedom

“The bureaucratic communists can no longer make up laws and enforce them.”

How many of these maggots know they do nothing useful. But want to keep their fat Federale paychecks. So they generate destructive regulations, in order to appear gainfully employed.


15 posted on 01/05/2025 5:16:37 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Libloather
For those who don't know or remember, not long ago you could buy a good hot water heater for between 400 and 500 bucks. Tops. Then EPA stuck their filthy nose into that and doubled the prices overnight. Then came covid.

Yeah, fjb and everyone else in his filthy administration. I hope I can live to see his time come and gone. it won't change much, there is always another like him or worse to follow him. At least the face and the name will change.

16 posted on 01/05/2025 5:18:05 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: Libloather

The war against the people.


17 posted on 01/05/2025 5:49:34 AM PST by Salman (In Hell it is a punishable offense not to call it Heaven.)
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To: Sacajaweau; redfreedom

Thanks guys.


18 posted on 01/05/2025 6:06:01 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Sacajaweau

The federal government can easily stop states from setting their own standards under the interstate commerce clause.


19 posted on 01/05/2025 6:10:22 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day.)
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To: Libloather

Follow the money. Democrats are picking winners and losers in the marketplace again.


20 posted on 01/05/2025 6:12:54 AM PST by johniegrad
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