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Has anyone considered the possibility that Livelsberger was trying to take down part of the Trump Tower?
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Posted on 01/03/2025 10:47:26 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

From what I am seeing he was unsuccessful in getting the battery fire started.

According the Googles AI summary of an EV fire:

"An electric vehicle (EV) fire can reach temperatures of up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit (2,760 degrees Celsius), which is much hotter than a gasoline-powered car fire that typically burns at 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit (815 degrees Celsius).

EV fires are more difficult to extinguish than gas-powered car fires, and can require up to 10 times more water to put out.

EV fires are caused by thermal runaway, which is when a battery cell short circuits and releases flammable gases, such as hydrogen. The gases then produce more heat and flammable gases, which can heat nearby battery cells and create a self-sustaining fire.

The greater the charge on the car, the more violent and hotter the burn can be."


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1 posted on 01/03/2025 10:47:26 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Has anyone considered the possibility that Livelsberger was trying to take down part of the Trump Tower?“

Well duh.


2 posted on 01/03/2025 10:48:36 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Dumb question. Can this model Tesla be driven remotely and then park itself at the curb? Wouldn’t surprise me if it can?


3 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

The fireworks were added to give a “movie style” explosion. For demolition it was a poor choice.


4 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:40 AM PST by glorgau
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

With fireworks and kerosene? That’s a pea poor plan.


5 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (I injured myself measuring radio frequencies. It still Hertz.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

He was a career Special Forces soldier, an E-8, with a career trained in how to train, lead, and fight with guerillas and using improvised explosives, with most of his focus on a Russian war with him dealing with European infrastructure and buildings, he knew something about explosives and how to use them, and that car thing wasn’t it.


6 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:07 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Obviously, but he was woefully inadequate...................


7 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Take a physics course to substitute for the urge to post vanities. You sound as intelligent as Rosie O’Donnell saying steel doesn’t burn after the towers came down.


8 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:41 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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Steel doesn’t burn.

It gets really hot and it starts to lose it’s tensile strength.


9 posted on 01/03/2025 10:56:45 AM PST by SeanS
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To: BenLurkin

Or that the EV fire can be started remotely by the country of manufacture, China.

Many feel that backdoors are in all hardware and software coming out of China.

Obama produced a Netflix movie: “Leave the World Behind” which suggests such control.


10 posted on 01/03/2025 10:56:50 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: FirstFlaBn

I’ll know I sound like a hick to such a great FREEPER mind as your own but have you seen any speculation on what Livelsberger had in mind?

Or what damage an EV fire would have done to the Trump building overhang?

BTW, this is a great teaching opportunity for the millions of citizens who are unaware of the threats EV’s pose.


11 posted on 01/03/2025 11:00:05 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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I think that makes a lot of sense. The electric vehicle fire temperature may have been high enough to damage the building’s steel structure, and difficult to control. That is basically what brought down the WTC on 9/11. Why else rent a Tesla? Obviously, the perp miscalculated how to ignite a battery fire (thank God).

As far as motive, I think everyone underestimates the amount of anti-Trump sentiment that permeates the military after basically 12 years of DEI indoctrination. Without a patriotic upbringing and coming through public schools controlled by leftists, these young military members are highly susceptible to propagandized military indoctrination.

Just my humble opinion.


12 posted on 01/03/2025 11:03:14 AM PST by con-surf-ative
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

The “Green Beret” failed to even burn the paint on some of the gas cans


13 posted on 01/03/2025 11:03:49 AM PST by teevolt
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...and can require up to 10 times more water to put out...

Given that lithium reacts with water, that should come as no surprise. Using water on lithium is like using kerosene to put out a house fire.

14 posted on 01/03/2025 11:05:28 AM PST by GingisK
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To: iamgalt
Has anyone considered the possibility that Livelsberger was trying to take down part of the Trump Tower?“

Considering his background, this guy certainly knew he didn't have enough bang to do much damage.

15 posted on 01/03/2025 11:07:57 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: iamgalt

The Tesla’s self driving function may not have been able to locate the parking garage, nor able to navigate any parking garage.


16 posted on 01/03/2025 11:08:33 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

IF I was trying to take down the building I would have driven it right through the front doors prior to blowing up the stuff in the back.


17 posted on 01/03/2025 11:08:33 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Reportedly he was a Green Beret and that tells me he knew how to build a bomb for destruction and how to build one to make a statement. At least the Green Beanies I have known absolutely knew how to make things break in glorious ways.


18 posted on 01/03/2025 11:09:48 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: ansel12

“He was a career Special Forces soldier, an E-8, with a career trained in how to train, lead, and fight with guerillas and using improvised explosives, with most of his focus on a Russian war with him dealing with European infrastructure and buildings, he knew something about explosives and how to use them, and that car thing wasn’t it.”

It looks more like somebody murdered him and then tried to cover it with a self-driving car and a fake explosion designed to burn a body. Not casting any aspersions, but I’d ask the ex-wife to not leave town.


19 posted on 01/03/2025 11:10:07 AM PST by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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“Or that the EV fire can be started remotely by the country of manufacture, China.”

How would that be done? 5G signals from StarLink?

CyberTruck batteries are made in Texas.


20 posted on 01/03/2025 11:10:31 AM PST by TexasGator (11'1/'1/11111)
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