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1 posted on 01/03/2025 10:47:26 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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Has anyone considered the possibility that Livelsberger was trying to take down part of the Trump Tower?“

Well duh.


2 posted on 01/03/2025 10:48:36 AM PST by iamgalt
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Dumb question. Can this model Tesla be driven remotely and then park itself at the curb? Wouldn’t surprise me if it can?


3 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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The fireworks were added to give a “movie style” explosion. For demolition it was a poor choice.


4 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:40 AM PST by glorgau
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With fireworks and kerosene? That’s a pea poor plan.


5 posted on 01/03/2025 10:50:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (I injured myself measuring radio frequencies. It still Hertz.)
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He was a career Special Forces soldier, an E-8, with a career trained in how to train, lead, and fight with guerillas and using improvised explosives, with most of his focus on a Russian war with him dealing with European infrastructure and buildings, he knew something about explosives and how to use them, and that car thing wasn’t it.


6 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:07 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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Obviously, but he was woefully inadequate...................


7 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Take a physics course to substitute for the urge to post vanities. You sound as intelligent as Rosie O’Donnell saying steel doesn’t burn after the towers came down.


8 posted on 01/03/2025 10:55:41 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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I think that makes a lot of sense. The electric vehicle fire temperature may have been high enough to damage the building’s steel structure, and difficult to control. That is basically what brought down the WTC on 9/11. Why else rent a Tesla? Obviously, the perp miscalculated how to ignite a battery fire (thank God).

As far as motive, I think everyone underestimates the amount of anti-Trump sentiment that permeates the military after basically 12 years of DEI indoctrination. Without a patriotic upbringing and coming through public schools controlled by leftists, these young military members are highly susceptible to propagandized military indoctrination.

Just my humble opinion.


12 posted on 01/03/2025 11:03:14 AM PST by con-surf-ative
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The “Green Beret” failed to even burn the paint on some of the gas cans


13 posted on 01/03/2025 11:03:49 AM PST by teevolt
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...and can require up to 10 times more water to put out...

Given that lithium reacts with water, that should come as no surprise. Using water on lithium is like using kerosene to put out a house fire.

14 posted on 01/03/2025 11:05:28 AM PST by GingisK
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IF I was trying to take down the building I would have driven it right through the front doors prior to blowing up the stuff in the back.


17 posted on 01/03/2025 11:08:33 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Reportedly he was a Green Beret and that tells me he knew how to build a bomb for destruction and how to build one to make a statement. At least the Green Beanies I have known absolutely knew how to make things break in glorious ways.


18 posted on 01/03/2025 11:09:48 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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NO. I am more and more convinced he was a murder victim. And this was done by Ukraine.

The more I think about this event in Vegas, and as more information surfaces...

This doesn’t appear to be that Livelsberger was the actual bomber. Some things do not make sense.

Shot in the head (according stories it sounds like before things went boom in the truck)
Burnt beyond recognition, but his ID/Passport/Military Id were only singed?
Given his background I think he could’ve put together a better bomb
He rented a Tesla truck, following the “time line” and charging stations etc. it doesn’t add up correctly.
Tesla’s can be preprogramed with a destination, self-driving.

Now he was recruiting for Ukraine? Let’s just say there are more than a few deserters here in the US. Refugee’s if you insist.

It is possible, very possible he was murdered.


22 posted on 01/03/2025 11:13:39 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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if that is what he was trying to do than he is really stupid.


23 posted on 01/03/2025 11:14:53 AM PST by algore
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From what I am seeing he was unsuccessful in getting the battery fire started.

It would not have done much damage anyway. Vegas FD was there in 4 minuets and were equipped with a thermal blanket for just such a situation.

They did not need to deploy it.

26 posted on 01/03/2025 11:24:11 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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Thankfully he was a severe underachiever, more likely a naive patsy.


37 posted on 01/03/2025 11:42:09 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Harpazo imminent. Each post may be my last. It's been real =)
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Well, duh! That was my first thought.


38 posted on 01/03/2025 11:43:11 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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He was dead with a headshot wound before he got there. The CIA had the Tesla drive itself there and detonated the device remotely. False flag from beginning to end.


39 posted on 01/03/2025 11:52:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Has anyone considered that the alleged Perp driving the Tesla Truck was already dead before the vehicle arrived in front of the Vegas Trump Tower?

After all he could have been dead well before his arrival and he was just the patsy of some other unknown group.


42 posted on 01/03/2025 12:09:17 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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It doesn’t even look like that battery packs were compromised. I’ve seen on evidence of thermal runaway. The explosion deflected the blast upward, it didn’t even compromise the sides of the back of the truck. It was put out with a tarp.

Something stinks...a very amateurish attempt at a ‘bomb’, especially for a special forces dude.

I don’t believe any video has been shown of the vehicle driving up, only the ‘explosion video’. There has to be other cameras.


43 posted on 01/03/2025 12:18:24 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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