You think we'd know better by now.
Posted on 12/30/2024 7:37:45 AM PST by Lazamataz
I've noticed, as of late, the quality of the arguments on Free Republic have declined. This is especially true as regards the H1B argument.
I have no intention of rehashing this argument, nor the points therein. I am speaking only to the tone and tenor of our forum participants.
Musk did us no favors by being so confrontational about this issue, and may have inadvertently sparked the furor. I fault him for that. I see he's trying to cool this down now, and that is to his credit.
However, it is my belief that the Deep State saw an opening and drove a wedge into it, to separate people on different sides of the argument, who normally would be backing Trump.
As I wrote elsewhere:
It's kinda amazing that the Deep State can ring a bell and we salivate like a Pavlovian dog.
You think we'd know better by now.
That point aside, repeatedly, I'm seeing a lot of posters lately are being rather personal as opposed to arguing the merits of their case. That behavior sheds a lot more heat than light.
It’s as if attorneys were to argue in court:
Atty 1: “Where’d you get your law degree, you fat loser? A crackerjack box? Your client is GUILTY and you are a blind FREAK if you can’t see that!”
Atty 2: “Oh, talk about blind! I understand you are a faggot in your personal life, too! Do you molest boys, you creep? YOU should be the one on trial!”
Judge: “Gentlemen, can we return to the facts of th...”
Atty 1: “Oh just shut the eff up, judge, and play with yourself under your robe, like you always do.”
Atty 2: “Yeah, shut up, you twatwaffle! I never liked you, now I know why!”
In short, I hope that people can dial things down a notch and present their cases with a lot less invective.
I myself have been guilty over the years of being nothing less than an online terrorist, but I do now see the errors of that path, especially here, where we are all one big family.
This is an important issue and we need to discuss it. I suggest we at least wait until our President is inaugurated, or, if it is important to discuss now, that we do so with a lot less invective. We are not Democrat Underground.
I think you all would agree.
As I wrote elsewhere:
It’s kinda amazing that the Deep State can ring a bell and we salivate like a Pavlovian dog.
You think we’d know better by now.
Elon and Vivek said their piece, and were rebuked.
They lack the perspective of the natural Born citizen.
A repeated lie often overcomes the truth.
but
the opposite is also true. Repeated truth often overcomes lies.
The point being that those that understand your point, need to step up with more rational thought posts and gentle/humorous challenges to those that need it.
We lead by example.
100%!
On a conservative site, individual people should be able to tone down their political rhetoric, not ramp it up, argue logically, and not need excessive admin moderation.
The mean and nasty are a comin’ for ya. Ya traitor!
just kidding 😉😉
I am a numbers guy and I would like FR to be discussing the merits of this post. Are these numbers accurate or biased?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1873174358535110953
NEGATIVE. That means you are indicating we can’t think for ourselves. I know what I see. I know what I have researched. Deep State has nothing to do with my opinion other than they are likely part of the fraud.
There are plenty of people here who have had first hand experience at the discrimination. I have not had first hand experience. But I know how to research.
Musk had an autistic meltdown because people were challenging him. To believe this poster is to believe we can’t think for ourselves.
Excellent post…
I’m interested being the only white person in a team of H1Bs from India.
My situation is tenuous and it shouldn’t be.
They are a cabal. They look out for themselves.
They put their visas above performance!!!!!!!!
Elon and Vivek said their piece, and were rebuked.
They lack the perspective of the natural Born citizen.
There was much more to it than what you reacted to and the media knew it.
These are complex problems with no simple answers. If you have ever been a leader, you would understand this. You will be misquoted. you will say things in short version without getting into all the details behind your thinking. You will be tired and there is not shortage of people to criticize you.
I try not to get into arguments on anything. I just accept that some people are argumentative and move on.............
Something like that.
I have noticed an increase in name calling and personal attacks lately, but only from a few.
bttt
You would think so. I very much agree.
Ukraine/Russia. Trump/DeSantis. Less Filling/Tastes Great.
Stop it.
This type of upchuck makes you look stupid.
(A return to mean?)
Folks have strong opinions on lots of stuff. They do not agree on the benefits/harm ratios.
We are not “one family”. We are Individuals, with loyalties and prejudices.
Info sources that flat out lie to the people are part of it. Lies by omission or lies by false data have been the norm.
Finding those items we all agree on is tough work. But sometimes, magic happens.
MAHA can’t be honestly argued against. Clean, safe, toxic free food? Healthy lifestyles? Defeating crony biz/gov cartels? All good things.
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