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Huge Water Oceans Might Be Lurking Deep Within Uranus And Neptune
IFL Science ^ | November 27, 2024 | Dr. Alfredo Carpineti

Posted on 11/27/2024 9:43:56 AM PST by Red Badger

The peculiar layers could explain the ice giants' magnetic peculiarities.

Uranus (left) and Neptune (right) are the ice blue giants in the outer Solar System.

Image credit: Patrick Irwin/University of Oxford/NASA

Uranus and Neptune were only visited once by human spacecraft when Voyager 2 passed by them almost 40 years ago. During those visits, scientists measured peculiar magnetic fields unlike those seen around other planets. A recent paper suggests that the Uranus measurements might have been messed up by the Sun, but in general, it has been difficult to explain the behavior. New research suggests that the magnetic weirdness might be due to oceans below the atmosphere.

Giant planets tend to have gassy layers on the outside, liquid layers down below, and a solid core at their center. Burkhard Militzer from the University of California Berkeley has created a computer model to try and explain the magnetic field. It suggests that below the atmosphere of the planets, there is water, methane, and ammonia.

The pressures below the atmosphere are high, creating two distinct layers: below, a layer of oily hydrocarbons and ammonia, which have lost some hydrogen, and above, the water and hydrogen. The model suggests that Uranus has a rocky core the size of Mercury. This is surrounded by an 8,000-kilometer (5,000-mile) thick layer rich in hydrocarbons. Above it sits a layer with the same thickness but made of water, and, to top it all off, an atmosphere 5,000 kilometers (3,000 miles) thick.

Neptune is similar in size to Uranus but not exactly a twin. It is more massive but smaller. The model suggests a thinner atmosphere and a larger core (roughly the size of Mars) but two equally thick layers of water and hydrocarbons.

“We now have, I would say, a good theory why Uranus and Neptune have really different fields, and it’s very different from Earth, Jupiter, and Saturn,” Militzer said in a statement. “We didn’t know this before. It’s like oil and water, except the oil goes below because hydrogen is lost.”

The measurements from Voyager 2 suggest that the magnetic fields of Uranus and Neptune are disorganized, very different from the nice north-south field we experience here on Earth. For Militzer, the reason is to be found in the lack of convection in these two worlds. The hydrocarbon layer is stably stratified almost like a plastic polymer, according to the model, so it doesn’t allow convection.

“If you ask my colleagues, ‘What do you think explains the fields of Uranus and Neptune?’ they may say, ‘Well, maybe it’s this diamond rain, but maybe it’s this water property which we call superionic,’” he said. “From my perspective, this is not plausible. But if we have this separation into two separate layers, that should explain it.”

It will be interesting to see if this model can consistently recreate the layers even with the new insights from the reanalysis of Voyager 2's magnetic data. A solar storm is believed to have caused Uranus to exhibit several strange magnetic features that are not actually present in its usual state.

A paper discussing these results is published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science; Travel; Weather
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; iloveuranus; magneticfield; neptune; poleshift; poleshifttowardswhat; science; uranus; uranusjokes
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1 posted on 11/27/2024 9:43:56 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: MtnClimber; SunkenCiv; rktman; mowowie; SuperLuminal; Cottonbay

PING!..................


2 posted on 11/27/2024 9:44:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Stop it all of you. Don’t even think it.


3 posted on 11/27/2024 9:48:43 AM PST by vmpolesov
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To: Red Badger

So and ...?


4 posted on 11/27/2024 9:51:09 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe inside YOUR anus...


5 posted on 11/27/2024 9:52:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: Red Badger
A bunch of speculation regarding measurements taken over 40 years ago. They're reaching, hoping, praying to Darwin that there can be a chance for water, so they can say that there's a chance for advanced life elsewhere.

Basically, they're trying to keep arguing the non-existence of God even though creation says otherwise, just like in Romans 1:18-23. So they can keep arguing in favor of modern day hedonism (verses 24-25), including gay hedonism (verses 26-27), and also argue in favor of even worse sins like murder and rooting for Auburn (verses 28-32).

Full disclosure, I was kidding about it being a sin to root for Auburn. At least from an exegetical reading.

6 posted on 11/27/2024 9:53:41 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: vmpolesov

Too late


7 posted on 11/27/2024 9:54:09 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: Red Badger

Does the water release when a person has diarrhea?


8 posted on 11/27/2024 9:54:38 AM PST by fso301
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To: vmpolesov
Stop it all of you. Don’t even think it.

A futile cry for sanity. It must be suppressed ruthlessly.

9 posted on 11/27/2024 9:58:06 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Red Badger

What do you call an ocean in Uranus? Diarrhea?


10 posted on 11/27/2024 9:58:40 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: vmpolesov
Huge Water Oceans Might Be Lurking Deep Within Uranus

Time to disconnect the bidet?

11 posted on 11/27/2024 9:58:52 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Tell It Right

rooting for Auburn?

I must have missed that one............Must be in the New King James Version.............


12 posted on 11/27/2024 9:59:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

We need to probe....

....Neptune


13 posted on 11/27/2024 10:00:53 AM PST by PGR88
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To: fso301

Yes, I have tested this theory.


14 posted on 11/27/2024 10:01:59 AM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: Tell It Right

Why can’t there be a universal God as well as”intelligent” life elsewhere? The two are not exclusive.


15 posted on 11/27/2024 10:05:35 AM PST by abigkahuna
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To: abigkahuna

Watching humans decide what God is not allowed to do is kinda amusing....


16 posted on 11/27/2024 10:07:18 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: abigkahuna
Why can’t there be a universal God as well as ”intelligent” life elsewhere? The two are not exclusive.

Nothing in the story about intelligent life, just maybe something swimming around up there.

Just maybe good eatin' {snicker}

17 posted on 11/27/2024 10:11:56 AM PST by Salman (The Democrats are the crazy ex-girlfriend, punishing us for rejecting them. )
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To: Red Badger
‘What do you think explains the fields of Uranus and Neptune?’

Extraterrestrial farmers.

That's where they practice their crop circle techniques.

🤫

18 posted on 11/27/2024 10:14:27 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Red Badger

Except they produce carbon dioxide. TAX URANUS!


19 posted on 11/27/2024 10:15:25 AM PST by montag813
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To: DesertRhino

Pepto!


20 posted on 11/27/2024 10:17:12 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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