Posted on 11/14/2024 1:01:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Do the ‘Q’ people on FR still embarrass themselves talking about ‘Pizzagate’?
I don't care. He didn't do any actual harm to any of them, and their claims that his "supporters" threatened bodily harm to them is only corroborated by themselves, meaning it is a claim supporting their own self interest, and therefore suspect.
Union Carbide actually *KILLED* 2,259 people in Bhopol India, and they paid 470 million dollars.
Do you know how absolutely ridiculous it is to think a man who made incorrect claims should be liable for a billion when people who actually *KILLED* 2,259 people only had to pay 470 million?
A billion dollars for bad words? I want to pound people in the face who think like this. They are trivializing the role of justice in our society, and they are not motivated by rationality, or fairness, they are motivated by touchy feely emotions and hatred.
Everyone involved in this should be horsewhipped and put in prison. They are sh*tty people who do not believe in justice.
I recall that some people said that.
Some poor guy from out of state believed these rumor mongers and he showed up, armed, to free the children. But there is no basement at Comet Ping Pong. And there were no captive children. The only thing that the Pizzagate loons managed to do was get Edgar Welch of NC arrested.
There is a logical fallacy, the name of which I have forgotten, but it asserts that if you prove any part of something untrue, the whole thing must also be untrue.
It is a fallacy because remaining parts may be true, even though one aspect was shown to be untrue.
I started reading the various threads people posted about "Pizzagate" back around 2016, I think, and what was shown was very disturbing, and the quantity of which made it seem as if something very wrong was happening, centered around Comet Pizza in Washington DC.
Among other things, the owner, James Alifantis, (not his real name either) kept posting things on his own instagram page that constantly insinuated sexual things with children. Things of the sort that it is hard to see an innocent explanation.
I had watched videos at the time, which were put out by comet pizza. Videos that implied, and in one case even asserted that the owner liked to have sex with little boys.
During a party at comet pizza, the transvestite Master of Ceremonies was prancing around and the sexual proclivities of James Alifantis was mentioned. Someone yelled out "He likes little boys!" To which the Tranny said (with a laughing smirk) "Well... we all do have our preferences!" Everyone laughed.
There were "art" exhibits at the business that are just disgusting, and they feature abstract portrayals of children being raped and murdered. Seriously, here is a link.
https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=713&start=80
Pizzagate was a rerun of the McMartin Preschool hysteria that played out in SoCal back in 1983. That one blew up the preschool and the lives of some innocent people who ran it.
I don't think so. There was no telltale signs in the Preschool case. Everything was based on the imaginative tales from children being coaxed by @$$hole social workers. The social workers kept inducing the children with leading questions and the children kept giving them stories they wanted. The stuff surrounding Comet Pizza is images and commentary that they themselves made.
If you don't want people to think you are diddling children, don't post stuff that implies it, don't say things that imply it, don't wear things that imply it, don't put stuff in your emails that imply it, and don't make weird advertisements promoting your restaurant with statements that imply it. ("We have pizza with beans, and pizza with eggs!")
Did you see the stuff that James Alifantis posted on his instagram? I can't conceive of an innocent explanation for what he advertised about himself.
The stuff I saw was chilling, and it all came from Jimmy Comet (James Alifantis) and imagery seen from inside comet pizza, as well as the weird emails about "pizza" from Podesta and others.
Don't know what is going on, but it smells really bad.
I've noticed that a lot of people like to introduce tangents when they don't have good answers for questions being asked.
Now *I* introduced the Pizzagate topic because I was discussing it earlier on the forum with someone else, and I noticed while doing research and refreshing my memory about the matter, that Pelham had discussed the issue back in 2017, and I was wondering if he still felt the same way.
I saw enough of the issue back then to convince me *SOMETHING* was wrong, or at least was throwing off a lot of vibes that something was wrong.
No real evidence of anything, but lots of circumstantial and or implied evidence of wrongdoing.
“If they can get Alex Jones, they can get you.”
They’re not going to stop. They’re never going to stop. They’re going to double down, as Marxists always do... even if or when they’ve lost a battle. Their war continues....
I have gathered from talking to you that you don't really need to know anything about anything, you will form your opinion based on the lack of knowledge just as quickly as you would if you had some.
You ignore my more significant points and focus on this single trivial thing I said. That tells everyone a lot about you.
You are the sort to which a billion dollars for "wrong speak" makes sense as a verdict.
It is unfortunate that we cannot keep such silly irrational people out of our courtrooms... or off our judicial benches.
I think you have a very exorbitant opinion of yourself, your own opinions, and what is ‘trivial’ or ‘significant’, or not.
Thanks for the conversation.
I think that far too many people are just silly, and completely unaware of how silly they are.
I think since the 1960s, people have been getting sillier and more irrational with each passing year.
To illustrate the point, the darling of the Democrat left in 1960 (JFK) would be a right wing extremist today.
He didn't change. Everyone else did.
I don't know if Pizzagate was real or not. But the inclination of people to believe such things is because they are compelling in the first place.
Washington D.C. is the most powerful city in the world. Powerful people live and work there. It's no secret that certain wealthy, elite groups are involved in occultism and pedophilia. So when a story comes out that alleges behavior which is known to exist in these groups, people are inclined to accept it.
Sandy Hook, twelve years later, is still a moving target. There remain enough unanswered questions that make many of us skeptical. A lot of documents and videos no longer exist, and several proponents of the conspiracy have been law-fared into silence.
Personally, I can't fathom how Adam Lanza, who was 6 feet tall, anorexic, and weighed 112 lbs, was able to physically and mentally carry out what he is alleged to have done.
A NYT's article:
The report, based on a comprehensive examination of the medical and school histories of Mr. Lanza, 20, found he was “completely untreated in the years before the shooting” for psychiatric and physical ailments like anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorder, and was also deprived of recommended services and drugs.
Another complication noted in the report was Adam Lanza’s anorexia, diagnosed only after his death, when the coroner determined he was 6 feet tall and weighed only 112 pounds. Authors of the report said anorexia could lead to malnutrition and cognitive impairment and cited Mr. Lanza’s obsessive workouts with “Dance, Dance Revolution,” which left him drenched in sweat. “He was so deeply troubled,” Dr. Ford said during the news conference. “That led him to take some extreme measures in which he was acting like his own body ceased to exist. So he was disconnected, not just from other people, but from his own body.”
He carried the Bushmaster XM-15, Glock and SIG Sauer handguns, plus lots of ammo. At just the ten 30-round magazines, it puts his gear at around 18% of his body weight.
From the final report of the Connecticut State's Attorney:
Officers found two-hundred-fifty-three live rounds on the shooter’s body: one-hundred-sixteen 9mm rounds, seventy-five rounds of 10 mm, sixty-one rounds of 5.56 mm and one 12 gauge shotgun shell. Officers also seized forty-six 5.56 mm live rounds. This consisted of fifteen from the rifle, one from the floor and thirty from the magazine under the body of the shooter, as well as thirteen 10 mm live rounds (nine from the Glock and four from the floor). There were forty- nine expended 5.56 mm casings seized and one 10 mm casing from classroom 10. Total live rounds seized were three-hundred-twelve and total expended casings seized from classroom 10 were fifty.
It's highly questionable that someone who was such an absolute mental and physical mess would have the presence of mind to plan and then carry out something that required intent, focus, as well as extraordinary physical strength and mental coordination.
There are numerous youtube videos showing fit and muscular young men shooting the XM-15. They weigh a lot more than 112 lbs. The recoil is noticeable. There's no way Lanza could have handled and accurately shot that rifle - and reloaded 4 or 5 times.
156 rounds in less than five minutes - by a skeleton. Nope.
Read later.
I don’t know if they are pushing the story now or not. But a Venn diagram of the two groups certainly overlaps.
Confirmation bias and gullibility are standard practice for both. They don’t let a lack of facts get in the way of a good story.
Inductive fallacy is what you are reaching for but that doesn’t fit and it begs the question of the Pizzagaters’ lack of credibility.
They spread the kids in the basement story. There is no basement. How did they get that wrong? The answer is real easy: they didn’t know even basic physical facts of the story that they were spreading.
There was another glaring problem with their story. Kids have names. Missing kids have names. The Pizzagaters never came up with even one name of any kid supposedly held captive at Comet Ping Pong.
Like all good conspiracy theories, it conveniently lacked any evidence that could be tested. Well, there was one testable claim: the basement, which turned out not to exist at all.
Funny how that worked out. Too bad that the NC guy who went there to free the kids didn’t know what a bunch of irresponsible buffoons he was listening to.
Uni gets big mad!
Here’s a tip, little missy: next time choose pics that fit your imaginary outcome.
That way you at least won’t look stupid.
Everyone moves the compass heading to survive and stay relevant
Ben Shapiro
Dennis Praeger
Glenn Beck
Levin
Megyn
Lowery
And so on
Even jd Vance
That Fresno did is well…
Pragmatism and maybe waking up and smelling the coffee some of us here always knew
Few right leaning pundits and podcasts and sites are not chameleon
Trumpism has proven that well enough
But to Fresno credit once Cruz was obviously faltering say around the Chicago shameful behavior they came on board
Their terrible personal loss is because their children were murdered not because Jones was a goofball they never heard of before.
So ? Plenty of people here on FR and other websites said the same about the TRUMP ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT.
So..... given all that, why was it that the parents of Sandy Hook were the only ones who sued and got a billion dollar settlement ?
What happened to the people who harassed the Sandy Hook parents ?
I can respond to your question.
That the collapse happened, you say, in a perfectly symmetrical manner would prove it was not the result of a man-made demolition. The number of times a demolition has gone perfectly as planned is about zero.
Collapsing a building requires weeks if not months of preparation. That includes sawing/cutting important structure points. Testing is usually conducted on sample areas and sample materials. Only after repeated checks is the wiring laid down going back to the detonator switches.
That kind of thing would be noticed, especially by anyone entering or even driving by the building. Matter of fact, traffic would not be allowed near the target building.
SO, I wonder if these engineers would say that a demo team would risk death to run demo wiring, do tests, and be near enough to hit the switches on the detonators ? During a fire. With the building being hit by burning debris which would have a high probability of setting off some of the charges prematurely.
TO sum up, with the conditions at the time and the lack of testing and lack of time to prepare the building properly and lay down wiring for the explosives there is no way that is was the product of a pre-planned demolition.
Burning debris landing on top of a building causing a fire from the top down and the force of gravity are an ideal method of having a collapse be almost perfectly symmetrical.
It’s never done that way because hauling thousands of tons of debris to the top of a skyscraper and setting it on fire, then dropping it on cue is beyond the ability of any demolition team.
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