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The US Military Is In A Death Spiral
https://indi.ca/ ^ | October 28th, 2024 | indi.ca

Posted on 11/13/2024 3:09:13 AM PST by Jonty30

The US army is the worst army in the world. They're the only army that aspires to worldwide dominance, and they suck at it. It's the only Empire based on losing every war and looting its own treasury. Losing the last war is always covered up by the starting the next war, but if you look at it historically, America has been losing it for decades now. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Palestine, these are all losses or draws. Today, America can no longer field its own army, its Navy cannot secure shipping lines, its proxies cannot stand on their own, and its military assets are aging liabilities. The military-industrial beast that Eisenhower birthed now slouches towards Bethlehem to die. Things fall apart, the falcon cannot hear the falconer, et cetera.

America still has the highest military spending in the world, but this is like a boxer showing up at weigh-in riddled with tumors. That's cancer bro, not muscle. The US military budget is a measure of corruption, not competence. Pound for pound, the American military is weaker than it's ever been. It spends more to suck even harder. As war criminal Dan Grazier said in Responsible Statecraft, the Death Star is in a Death Spiral,

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Unfortunately, it seems true. America has spent itself in a position where it is forced to contract and narrow its military goals because they money is simply not there to reverse by much of what has happened.

In my view, it was a sabotage operation. Take advantage of America's good will and keep stretching it until it had nothing left to give.

1 posted on 11/13/2024 3:09:13 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Army command cares more about fursuits, puppy masks, beast peen strap ons, and making trans feel good about sucking at life than the basic tenet of war which is “offend the enemy so badly that they take their dolls and run home, then follow them home to take their stuff. The End.”
But hey, the trans feel good about themselves, lgbtqeerty feel empowered, and everyone else is affirmed except whites as they’re apparently the devil now.
If the military focused on being soldiers first THEN anything else faaaaar later it’d be better.
It started with “We must be politically correct “ in the 90’s.
And snowballed from there.


2 posted on 11/13/2024 3:22:48 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Jonty30

That is about to change.

We have been a victim of Sun Tzu’s Art of War.


3 posted on 11/13/2024 3:23:11 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Jonty30

The issue isn’t a lack of money. It is too much money spent on incredibly overpriced, overengineered crap. Then, of course, also spreading its footprint worldwide in places we don’t belong.


4 posted on 11/13/2024 3:25:04 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Jonty30

Elon can help us put Rods From God up into space. That’s a deterrent against anyone who wants to attempt a first strike.

We have an enormous militia. We cannot be invaded. Our homeland is secure.

Traditionally, our navy has kept the sea lanes open. But we do that mostly for our allies. They benefit from stable global trade, but we depend upon that far less. We can be largely sufficient economically without so much dependence on sea lanes.

I’ve always been a fan of the military. But I almost think we could disband most of what we have. Start over if we need to. But the idea that we ought to live in fear of the world is a little silly. No one is going to touch us, with or without our military.


5 posted on 11/13/2024 3:28:17 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: Jonty30

Forget about the military. The first thing Americans need is a nation worth defending.


6 posted on 11/13/2024 3:28:29 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: Jonty30
In my view, it was a sabotage operation.

The Army Secretary in the past four years was easily the worst in US history. I'm actually not sure how Trump will rebuild the army. Most of the competent colonels and lieutenant colonels have moved on and gone away. Who will Trump replace the DIE general officers with?

At least Stalin, Mao, and Castro understood they needed army support to ensure success of their revolutions. The current crop of leftists thought they could destroy the army and still have their revolution.

7 posted on 11/13/2024 3:29:03 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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I’m hoping President Trump will find a role for Tulsi Gabbard in his administration. Fixing this sounds like something she would be perfect for.


8 posted on 11/13/2024 3:40:28 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: Jonty30

The article was wrong on Vietnam and Afghanistan those wars were easily won if politicians stayed out of the ROEs. Politicians lost those wars, the military didn’t.

We’re not fighting in Palestine or Ukraine so the guys a moron.

The state of the military now is a disaster and politicians are the cause of that as well along with woke military managers. We have few leaders.

The cost of equipment is another political/congressional cause as well. The acquisition process is broken but could easily be repaired but that process is the reason it take decades to get a piece of equipment to the troops.

As for the military it has one purpose and that is to kill the enemy and that is all it should ever train to do. The military is not a peace keeping force. Peace keeping is the result of the enemy knowing you will annihilate them if they’re stupid enough to try anything. Same things for shipping lanes staying open....try anything and your dead. Peace through superior fire power.

Weakness in any form needs to be eliminated in the ranks as well.


9 posted on 11/13/2024 3:49:18 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Almost everything the U.S. needs to do on the seas should be able to be done with our submarine fleet - IMHO - what do we need to do with amphibious ships or this - the modern nuclear aircraft carrier is the battleship of the post WWII era.

The U.S. Army? Well, they’re just gay. The Marines are ceremonial and the Air Force / Space Force is a nest of insubordinate leftist girls

10 posted on 11/13/2024 3:52:54 AM PST by atc23 (I voted early for TRUMP)
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To: Jonty30; MayflowerMadam
As MayflowerMadam said in another thread (I paraphrase), "Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can start to turn around."

The military has hit rock bottom.

11 posted on 11/13/2024 3:53:50 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." They failed. )
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To: Jonty30

And Fox and Friends weekend host Pete Hegseth is the one to fix it?


12 posted on 11/13/2024 3:55:56 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Jonty30
From the article:
"That's cancer bro, not muscle. The US military budget is a measure of corruption, not competence."

And our beloved debtor nation is now almost $36 trillion in debt, because of the neocons, neolibs and other traitors who made themselves rich at the expense of this USA.

13 posted on 11/13/2024 3:56:24 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Jonty30

After the invasion of our southern border for the last 4 years, the army has proven itself a worthless institution.


14 posted on 11/13/2024 4:00:22 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Democracy is dead. Long live the Republic!)
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To: Darksheare

The Army is only as good as the leaders that lead it. It seems that our leadership now is only worried about how many trannies and hommos they can get to enlist, and not how to fight. This will change in the next 8 years.


15 posted on 11/13/2024 4:32:20 AM PST by spincaster (i)
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To: Jonty30
Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Palestine, these are all losses or draws.
...Unfortunately, it seems true. America has spent itself in a position where it is forced to contract and narrow its military goals because they money is simply not there to reverse by much of what has happened.

The US military is a reflection of its prosperous, largely post-Christian culture, failing the test of affluence, after enduring affliction and adversity.

Yet, all the wars and actions mentioned were winnable, and lack of money is not the issue. if the US militarily conducted these wars as their adversaries did and would if they had its military might, then all its foes would forced into into submission, beginning with nuking the Soviets which it has indirectly fought in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Ukraine. Which were lost or stalemated due to lack of political will to win. Yet, contrary to the accusations of the Left, it is the US which overall operated under much higher moral principles than its adversaries, if it can be said that Japan and communists even had much of any.

But while helping wicked Stalin to defeat a common foe was necessary at the time, yet aside from humanitarian aid*, perhaps the allies should not have helped it so much that it became an advancing army that conquered Berlin first as the US took a different route. Of course, there are many "what if" scenarios in that war.

If only Stalin had The Bomb and means to deliver it in 1944, and the US did not until 1949, then it could have forced all the world into submission if the US was not their to stop it.

But As for Palestine. Israel is showing the US how to better deal with a recalcitrant implacable adversary, with and also despite US involvement .

In all, the United States shipped $50 billion ($608 billion in 2020 money) worth of materiel under the program, including $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union. In addition, much of the $31 billion worth of aid sent to the United Kingdom was also passed on to the Soviet Union via convoys through the Barents Sea to Murmansk. Most visibly, the United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.

16 posted on 11/13/2024 4:36:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thank you for posting that picture, which is a perfect example of the utter stupidity of the Biden adminstration and Lloyd Austin. And people ask questions about Hegseth.


17 posted on 11/13/2024 4:45:34 AM PST by odawg
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To: ClearCase_guy

” We cannot be invaded”

Are you insane?

The country next door has successfully pushed well over 40M people into this country and now dominates the Southwest. They even have two Senators to help channel money and power into their disgusting, filthy Ork nightmare world.

ANYONE can invade the US now and are doing so. They just don’t waste ammunition with frontal assaults: they simply walk in.


18 posted on 11/13/2024 4:46:09 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
The Army Secretary in the past four years was easily the worst in US history. I

Part of the trend of decades, and as said,a reflection of the post-Christian culture. Today, the US could not fight WW2 on its terms.

However, tragically, the US has the most mighty "wokelitary' in the world.

God's scouting party and response includes Ezekiel 9:1-11.

19 posted on 11/13/2024 4:46:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Regulator

Fair point. But you know I wasn’t referring to immigration. I was referring the Chinese troops hitting the beaches of California. THAT wouldn’t work and you know it.


20 posted on 11/13/2024 4:50:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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